The Great Art Debate
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Terribly kind of you Mummy and, a really great offer and. Unfortunatley, I have quite a lot on my plate coming up in the near future so I'll have to pass this one. Really appreciate the offer though.
Terribly kind of you Mummy and, a really great offer and. Unfortunatley, I have quite a lot on my plate coming up in the near future so I'll have to pass this one. Really appreciate the offer though.
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This is a painting I'd love to see "in the flesh" so to speak. Ewenny Priory, a 12th century eddifice in Wales painted by Turner. The subject is nothing exceptional, something that would only hang in a gallery, but the execution is quite magnificent. In my view, Turner would be captivated by the contrasts in light and shade and its various and changing depths. On the right the direct sunlight through windows and open doorway and on the left the reflected light from the large open area. It has some small area of attention in the figures and items around, but these are minimal compared to the atmosphere of the whole thing. For me, brilliant..
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Summat for those of us fighting the flab to be inspired by! The Belvedere Torso is coming to London!
A new exhibition at the British Museum will include what was once dubbed "the most famous Greek body in Europe".
Defining beauty: the body in ancient Greek art marks the first time the Belvedere Torso has been lent to the UK from its home in the Vatican.
The original Greek sculpture was found in Rome during the Renaissance and inspired Michelangelo's Adam.
Director Neil MacGregor called it "a loan of astonishing importance".
"The Belvedere Torso has a very interesting part to play in the story of the Greek body. It was the touchstone of authenticity up until the time that the Parthenon sculptures arrive," said curator Ian Jenkins, calling it "one of the great celebrities of antiquity".
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It looks like it belongs in a skip.thebish wrote:Summat for those of us fighting the flab to be inspired by! The Belvedere Torso is coming to London!
A new exhibition at the British Museum will include what was once dubbed "the most famous Greek body in Europe".
Defining beauty: the body in ancient Greek art marks the first time the Belvedere Torso has been lent to the UK from its home in the Vatican.
The original Greek sculpture was found in Rome during the Renaissance and inspired Michelangelo's Adam.
Director Neil MacGregor called it "a loan of astonishing importance".
"The Belvedere Torso has a very interesting part to play in the story of the Greek body. It was the touchstone of authenticity up until the time that the Parthenon sculptures arrive," said curator Ian Jenkins, calling it "one of the great celebrities of antiquity".
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Doing a London visit next week - mostly family stuff, but we'll take the opportunity to visit some exhibitions...
So today, tried to book tickets for Rembrandt's late works at the national gallery. It finishes on the 18th january - and is completely sold out!
Bollocks!!!
Have got tickets for the Schiele nudes though at the Courtauld... And there's much consolation in that...
So today, tried to book tickets for Rembrandt's late works at the national gallery. It finishes on the 18th january - and is completely sold out!
Bollocks!!!
Have got tickets for the Schiele nudes though at the Courtauld... And there's much consolation in that...
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enjoy! (they're hideous!)William the White wrote:
Have got tickets for the Schiele nudes though at the Courtauld... And there's much consolation in that...
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I know. I'm really looking forward to seeing them.thebish wrote:enjoy! (they're hideous!)William the White wrote:
Have got tickets for the Schiele nudes though at the Courtauld... And there's much consolation in that...
I saw a lot of his work in the Leopold Museum in Vienna in November. He's tremendous. Really disturbing.
My first trip to the Courtauld - it looks like one Tango would like. Lots of Impressionist and Post-Impressionist work in the Permanent Collection.
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If Tango likes the Schiele nudes - I'll eat my cat.William the White wrote:I know. I'm really looking forward to seeing them.thebish wrote:enjoy! (they're hideous!)William the White wrote:
Have got tickets for the Schiele nudes though at the Courtauld... And there's much consolation in that...
I saw a lot of his work in the Leopold Museum in Vienna in November. He's tremendous. Really disturbing.
My first trip to the Courtauld - it looks like one Tango would like. Lots of Impressionist and Post-Impressionist work in the Permanent Collection.
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Good news, cat safe.thebish wrote:If Tango likes the Schiele nudes - I'll eat my cat.William the White wrote:I know. I'm really looking forward to seeing them.thebish wrote:enjoy! (they're hideous!)William the White wrote:
Have got tickets for the Schiele nudes though at the Courtauld... And there's much consolation in that...
I saw a lot of his work in the Leopold Museum in Vienna in November. He's tremendous. Really disturbing.
My first trip to the Courtauld - it looks like one Tango would like. Lots of Impressionist and Post-Impressionist work in the Permanent Collection.
I'd be well happy perusing the Courtauld impressionists in the permanent collection, ( which I think Will meant) but Schiele, no. Hideous does it for me, And yes, I've had a look at
https://www.google.co.uk/search?site=&t ... dloXHYQ57g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I came across this last week - on R4 (BBC iplayer) - one of Melvyn Bragg's "History of Ideas" programmes - this one asking the question: "Why are things beautiful?"
it touches on a question that brings about quite a sharp distinction about our approach to art on this thread...
there are some brief discussions introducing some fascinating ideas in here for those who are interested in thinking about WHY we consider some things to be "great art" or in the programme's terms, "beautiful"..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04pcd5k
it touches on a question that brings about quite a sharp distinction about our approach to art on this thread...
there are some brief discussions introducing some fascinating ideas in here for those who are interested in thinking about WHY we consider some things to be "great art" or in the programme's terms, "beautiful"..
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04pcd5k
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Can't believe this is coming here. The Vatican have really spoilt us in recent years by loaning us the Raphael Tapestries (V&A), the Leonardo St Jerome (National Gallery) and now this.thebish wrote:Summat for those of us fighting the flab to be inspired by! The Belvedere Torso is coming to London!
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Have you seen the Raphael cartoons at the V&A, Crayons? They're fecking amazing.mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Can't believe this is coming here. The Vatican have really spoilt us in recent years by loaning us the Raphael Tapestries (V&A), the Leonardo St Jerome (National Gallery) and now this.thebish wrote:Summat for those of us fighting the flab to be inspired by! The Belvedere Torso is coming to London!
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I have indeed, Bruce - and they are the designs for tapestries of the same size which are usually only rolled out at the Vatican on special occasions, but which were hung alongside the designs in those rooms at the V&A back in 2010. http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign ... exhibition" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Bruce Rioja wrote:Have you seen the Raphael cartoons at the V&A, Crayons? They're fecking amazing.mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Can't believe this is coming here. The Vatican have really spoilt us in recent years by loaning us the Raphael Tapestries (V&A), the Leonardo St Jerome (National Gallery) and now this.thebish wrote:Summat for those of us fighting the flab to be inspired by! The Belvedere Torso is coming to London!
The cartoons are incredible art in their own right, though. When the V&A had an exhibition of Chinese ink painting last year, where the Chinese tradition is to make human figures look tiny and insignificant compared to the sublime magnificence of nature, it was interesting to walk straight to the Raphael room to see what Europeans were doing at the same time - making 30-foot high pictures of human actors filling the frame!
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I did mean the Impressionist and post-impressionist work in the gallery (I'm looking forward to seeing it myself).TANGODANCER wrote:
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I'd be well happy perusing the Courtauld impressionists in the permanent collection, ( which I think Will meant) but Schiele, no. Hideous does it for me, And yes, I've had a look at
https://www.google.co.uk/search?site=&t ... dloXHYQ57g" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I can sort of understand your rejection of the Schiele nudes, but isn't this a bit prissy? Like you want art all chintzy and sugar almond?
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Not at all Will. I appreciate many things, from the Old Masters right up to some very modern stuff. I've been in quite a few museums, churches, castles and cathedrals in my time and seen a lot of it all. I'm mainly a painting, carving and sculpture appreciater and not a great lover of cubism or abstract art, whilst still appreciating "some" of the skills involved. I like the Pre Rapaelites' detail and romantic views at the same time as the great impressionists looseness and freedom of expression. Mainly, I like what catches my eye and attention. What I don't really go for is a seeming fascination in painting things like female body parts over and over (as per artist like Schiele). We all know what everything looks like, even at its ugliest (try a summer's day visit to Farnworth ) So why glorify it, more-so, why have any interest in it at all? Interest is either present, or it isn't. In my case with Schiele, it's the latter. (Oh.and I don't like sugared almonds either)William the White wrote:
I did mean the Impressionist and post-impressionist work in the gallery (I'm looking forward to seeing it myself). I can sort of understand your rejection of the Schiele nudes, but isn't this a bit prissy? Like you want art all chintzy and sugar almond?
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Went to see a few things yesterday afternoon; the Vaughan Turner's at the National Gallery on The Mound, plus William Strang's dark etchings, then went to see Ponte City at the Portrait Gallery followed by Robert Douglas's exhibition at the Fruitmarket. I could have happily walked out with this were it not far too big to fit under my arm.
http://fruitmarket.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... lowres.jpg
http://fruitmarket.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... lowres.jpg
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wow!! that is stunning!Little Green Man wrote:Went to see a few things yesterday afternoon; the Vaughan Turner's at the National Gallery on The Mound, plus William Strang's dark etchings, then went to see Ponte City at the Portrait Gallery followed by Robert Douglas's exhibition at the Fruitmarket. I could have happily walked out with this were it not far too big to fit under my arm.
http://fruitmarket.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... lowres.jpg
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It isn't a real photo. The alley was destroyed in 1970. It's been digitally re-created from old photos and maps. Still wowsome though - and thanks to The Fruitmarket uploading a rather large (yet still low res) copy of it, we can all enjoy it at home.thebish wrote:wow!! that is stunning!Little Green Man wrote:Went to see a few things yesterday afternoon; the Vaughan Turner's at the National Gallery on The Mound, plus William Strang's dark etchings, then went to see Ponte City at the Portrait Gallery followed by Robert Douglas's exhibition at the Fruitmarket. I could have happily walked out with this were it not far too big to fit under my arm.
http://fruitmarket.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... lowres.jpg
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in that case - even wower! that's a pretty awesome digital recreation job!Little Green Man wrote:It isn't a real photo. The alley was destroyed in 1970. It's been digitally re-created from old photos and maps. Still wowsome though - and thanks to The Fruitmarket uploading a rather large (yet still low res) copy of it, we can all enjoy it at home.thebish wrote:wow!! that is stunning!Little Green Man wrote:Went to see a few things yesterday afternoon; the Vaughan Turner's at the National Gallery on The Mound, plus William Strang's dark etchings, then went to see Ponte City at the Portrait Gallery followed by Robert Douglas's exhibition at the Fruitmarket. I could have happily walked out with this were it not far too big to fit under my arm.
http://fruitmarket.co.uk/wp-content/upl ... lowres.jpg
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