New Sheriff, but he's still a villain - Forest (A) 21/02/15

[twilight]

Used all our bad luck in this game? It feels as though it's been like this most of the season!!! There's a curse been bewitched on us, there must be

Can you wiggle your nose ?

Yeah. Bet you can't looking at your profile pic

[DJBlu]

We've been cursed since playing at Wembley.

Don't know who cursed us but could they kindly lift it please as it's not funny anymore.

[TANGODANCER]

^^
Better hope it happens quickly. Smoggies on Tuesday.

[Nicko58]

We have too much of an injury problem in the squad to avoid making strange decisions, so I'm not overly bothered by what is happening now or by the decisions Lennon is making. I think it's by necessity rather than choice, so I can excuse the weird decisions and poor results right now. It's just not an issue for me, however disappointing it is to concede so many and lose too frequently.

The individual errors need sorting out though but that's down to the players themselves. Watching them, it's like they feel nothing is to play for this season.

There's no reason why McNaughton couldn't have started at right back yesterday, and Moxey would surely have been a better bet at left back than Twardzik (who I understand is a central mifielder by trade).

The amount of injuries to the squad haven't helped but I think we have to admit that with the options that were still available to him, Lennon got his team selection wrong.

[Enoch]

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I know Freedman is a c*nt. Lennon however walks on water.

Wow!

[SmokinFrazier]

I have no idea what I'm talking about, but I know Freedman is a c*nt. Lennon however walks on water.

Wow!

I'm happy to argue my stance where I see fit and on most things, I think I've been proven right. And I am right with everything I said on Freedman and I'm right in saying that Lennon is a drastically better manager too. Feel free to carry on playing Devils Advocate though. You and thebish do a good job sitting on the fence, stirring things, without ever committing to a solid argument

[thebish]

^ dunno why you'd drag me into your spat with Enoch... also - I don't know why your argument that it'll all be great next season, just wait and see, is any more "solid" than my argument that it is not a good thing to be regularly shipping 4 goals and that it needs sorting out...

also - not being tempted by the very tired binary argument that a manager is EITHER shiny-ace-great-brill OR an utter disaster cancer on the club - but, rather, a human being who (in Lennon's case) often gets it right but also sometimes gets it wrong - is "sitting on the fence"... what it is is simply (in my humble opinion) "grown-up."

still - you carry on telling us you are always right - it suits you! (some of us remember your adamant statements about Coyle being ace, though...)

[Jonah]

Lennon comes across as a good manager but then so did coyle and freedman in a couple of periods . It's quite possible freedman will be successful at forest . At Bolton I think I got sucked into a negative mentality due to sales and finance and believed the only way was to defend deep and play on the break through beckford . At forest he appears to have better options as a starting point and so far he hasn't tried to impose the style he used here or at palace .
It has felt like Lennon is the best we've had since Allardyce, he talks sense and his decisions mostly make sense . Only time will tell . Nothing is ever as black and white as some like to believe .

[Prufrock]

Aye, thought Douglas was taking the piss when he brought an extra striker on when they were 4-1 up!

[Jonah]

An extra striker who has yet to score for the first team . In the circumstances you can see the thinking .

[KeyserSoze]

Ream and Lonners both given all clear, though will miss tomorrow's game

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[Prufrock]

An extra striker who has yet to score for the first team . In the circumstances you can see the thinking .

Aye, it just didn't seem very Dougie-like!

[Jonah]

Nothing about him at forest at present is like what we saw . I think he was almost clinically depressed in the end here and obsessed with the challenge of balancing the books no matter what . He definitely ran into a negative cul see sac . At forest he appears to have inherited quite a bit of talent .
I know it's not a popular idea but in the long term freedman may be seen as a guy who did a necessary important job post coyle and balanced the books enough for a fresh positive manager to work effectively .
Most average managers are capable of successful spells with a bit of luck and momentum but a lot is down to circumstance . There's only a handful of managers capable of consistent success wherever they go .

[thebish]

Nothing about him at forest at present is like what we saw . I think he was almost clinically depressed in the end here and obsessed with the challenge of balancing the books no matter what . He definitely ran into a negative cul see sac . At forest he appears to have inherited quite a bit of talent .
I know it's not a popular idea but in the long term freedman may be seen as a guy who did a necessary important job post coyle and balanced the books enough for a fresh positive manager to work effectively .
Most average managers are capable of successful spells with a bit of luck and momentum but a lot is down to circumstance . There's only a handful of managers capable of consistent success wherever they go .

careful now - such rational and balanced thinking can get you into trouble!

[Jonah]

Mr smokin is totally entitled to his views. Disliked freedman from the start and ultimately appeared correct . Never really understood his apparent beliefs about coyle though . I have a feeling freedman may ultimately have a longer better career than coyle. Neither were great though . Coyle wasted money and was a bit of a clueless optimist . Freedman partially addressed the mess but got in a rut and rightly went . I was surprised to see him back but think there's more chance if him succeeding than coyle would have . Freedman was very diplomatic at the weekend , which is a credit to him although he still comes across a bit weezily and arrogant in what he says at times .
Lennon seems like a man of substance who knows what he's doing so its surprising to see some of these displays now . It also seemed odd that he signed a load of midfielders after bemoaning having too many here and getting shut of so many . May prove wise though given the dip in vela and danns . Perhaps he thought he'd addressed right back in signing janko . If he doesn't explain why he won't use mcnaughton though it will create the sort of questions I had hoped we'd seen the last of with freedman leaving . Lennon usually is honest and effective in communicating through the media so having a decent right back and pretending he doesn't exist is at odds with everything else he's done so far .

[CrazyHorse]

How weird. You seem to know so much about smokin after only being a member on here for the last two days.

[jaffka]

It's bwfci

[Jonah]

Lol , nah not him . I've followed the forum a long time

[Worthy4England]

How weird. You seem to know so much about smokin after only being a member on here for the last two days.

Jonah's an interesting name too...

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

It's bwfci

Nah. If it were BWFCi each sentence would be a paragraph