These be her very Cs, her Us and her Ts - Rovers Away 11/3

[Prufrock]

Useless f*cking wankers.

[Peter Thompson]

I think it's the players for the most part... Lennon has shown there's only so much you can get out of them. They weren't as bad as Dougie was showing them to be, but they're not that much better than where we are in the table now.

Time for a big clear out and to build a side around the promising youngster who have helped carry this creaking side along.

I agree with most of this but have corrected to 'Youngster' not Youngsters.

[Peter Thompson]

Optimism for next season is waining by every game - since Xmas in general we have been dire....

I still have confidence in NL to take us forward, but without an injection of cash to bring in some players who actually have a winning mentality I haven't a clue how on earth he can improve this 'shower of shite'.

It may take NL longer than 1st thought to turn things around....although I'm not sure how many more seasons of this shite the fans can put up with.

[officer_dibble]

17 players out the door in the summer
I'm more bothered that he gets the right type of player in
Twazdick, rochina, slavchev...wastes of time

[Lord Kangana]

We really are shit aren't we.

Worryingly, this seems to prove my point that our fortunes are intrinsically linked to those of United. Think about it, they had 20 good years starting in 92-93. Set of bastards. I hate football.

[LeverEnd]

This season can just feck off, and most of our players with it. Actually regretting paying £5 for a ticket for Saturday!

[TANGODANCER]

I know this sounds very simple, but all the games we lose, home or away, in the dying seconds are because it's always us under seige. Why aren't we attacking their box and our keeper the one going forward instead of us constantly being scored against. We really have got a loss mentality. I know we have had lousy luck with injuries and field teams where the players hardly know each others names, but we really have to get out of our rabbit holes and grow some balls.

[LeverEnd]

I know this sounds very simple, but all the games we lose, home or away, in the dying seconds are because it's always us under seige. Why aren't we attacking their box and our keeper the one going forward instead of us constantly being scored against. We really have got a loss mentality. I know we have had lousy luck with injuries and field teams where the players hardly know each others names, but we really have to get out of our rabbit holes and grow some balls.

Because we are rubbish. We played with 2 strikers and 2 wingers, they are just not good enough. Returning players will make us better than we are but I worry about what Lennon has to offer away from home.

[Jugs]

Why didn't Eidur come on? Said it before, Cravies misses far too many chances. Apparently he missed a one-on-one tonight. He isn't good enough. And someone on here was saying we should drop Clough for him.

[danardif1]

I think it's the players for the most part... Lennon has shown there's only so much you can get out of them. They weren't as bad as Dougie was showing them to be, but they're not that much better than where we are in the table now.

Time for a big clear out and to build a side around the promising youngster who have helped carry this creaking side along.

I agree with most of this but have corrected to 'Youngster' not Youngsters.

Vela and Clough? That's enough to warrant the -sters is it not?

[Peter Thompson]

I know this sounds very simple, but all the games we lose, home or away, in the dying seconds are because it's always us under seige. Why aren't we attacking their box and our keeper the one going forward instead of us constantly being scored against. We really have got a loss mentality. I know we have had lousy luck with injuries and field teams where the players hardly know each others names, but we really have to get out of our rabbit holes and grow some balls.

Spot on TD....our players are 'all' weak as piss, we have no out and out winners, who will take any responsibility and take the game by the scuff of the neck and ensure that we see it out - the ball is like a hot potato in the final few minutes and our players are 'bottlers' to a man.

When we actually had some 'proper' footballers in our most recent pomp, the likes of JJ & Youri could keep possession in the closing minutes in the opposition half by getting thrown in after thrown in - which takes the pressure off defensively.

I fecking hate b/burn more than any other local rival and tonight has really annoyed me - how quickly things have regressed after the early Lennon bounce, fcuk them all off and build a team around young Zach next season and bring in players who will battle & fight for the club....no wonder Reading bullied us, we have a team of 'soft arsed' weak pussies !

[Peter Thompson]

I think it's the players for the most part... Lennon has shown there's only so much you can get out of them. They weren't as bad as Dougie was showing them to be, but they're not that much better than where we are in the table now.

Time for a big clear out and to build a side around the promising youngster who have helped carry this creaking side along.

I agree with most of this but have corrected to 'Youngster' not Youngsters.

Vela and Clough? That's enough to warrant the -sters is it not?

Sorry - but IMO Vela has disappointed me a lot since Xmas and regressed, not sure why perhaps too many games, but he's a long way off being at the level Clough is and will be....(IMO)

[danardif1]

I think it's the players for the most part... Lennon has shown there's only so much you can get out of them. They weren't as bad as Dougie was showing them to be, but they're not that much better than where we are in the table now.

Time for a big clear out and to build a side around the promising youngster who have helped carry this creaking side along.

I agree with most of this but have corrected to 'Youngster' not Youngsters.

Vela and Clough? That's enough to warrant the -sters is it not?

Sorry - but IMO Vela has disappointed me a lot since Xmas and regressed, not sure why perhaps too many games, but he's a long way off being at the level Clough is and will be....(IMO)

Vela's versatility has been what's kept him from playing his best IMO. Too often shoved around the park playing in different positions because another player has had his leg come off or one of the other stupid injuries we keep getting.

I think he's a bit tired as well to be honest... missed a lot of football in the last few years with injuries and just not getting played and then when Lennon came in it's been non-stop since...

[Peter Thompson]

I think it's the players for the most part... Lennon has shown there's only so much you can get out of them. They weren't as bad as Dougie was showing them to be, but they're not that much better than where we are in the table now.

Time for a big clear out and to build a side around the promising youngster who have helped carry this creaking side along.

I agree with most of this but have corrected to 'Youngster' not Youngsters.

Vela and Clough? That's enough to warrant the -sters is it not?

Sorry - but IMO Vela has disappointed me a lot since Xmas and regressed, not sure why perhaps too many games, but he's a long way off being at the level Clough is and will be....(IMO)

Vela's versatility has been what's kept him from playing his best IMO. Too often shoved around the park playing in different positions because another player has had his leg come off or one of the other stupid injuries we keep getting.

I think he's a bit tired as well to be honest... missed a lot of football in the last few years with injuries and just not getting played and then when Lennon came in it's been non-stop since...

Fair point, but I still need convincing that he's good enough to build a team around - Clough absolutely but Vela needs to show more for me just to nail down a 1st team place....you need consistency of performance to make it as a top player not just the odd decent game - Zach Clough influences a game even when not at his best, whereby with Vela you forget he's on the pitch sometimes and like others he gives the ball away far too cheaply in possession.

[Worthy4England]

Optimism for next season is waining by every game - since Xmas in general we have been dire....

I still have confidence in NL to take us forward, but without an injection of cash to bring in some players who actually have a winning mentality I haven't a clue how on earth he can improve this 'shower of shite'.

It may take NL longer than 1st thought to turn things around....although I'm not sure how many more seasons of this shite the fans can put up with.

You've only just returned. It has been dire watching for a long time. We got a "bounce" under Lennon when he first arrived, but like you say out post Christmas performances (two backs to the wall efforts against Liverpool notwithstanding) have been poor. The "high tempo, pressing game" relied a lot on Chungy, Clayton etc. running and running and running...this sorta went along with both of them, when we enlisted two thirty-seven year olds...We clearly don't have much/any cash, so it's going to be a long turn-around. We can't just inject cash under FFP, even if ED wanted to.

[SmokinFrazier]

I'm quite surprised at the negativity on here, to be honest. The results have been poor recently and the performances not much better but we're a team ripped apart by injury. We started the game tonight with two players who have joined us in the past few days on emergency loans because we're that short, and people are shocked when things aren't working? Playing Janko, Coke, McCarthy and Amos is always going to lead to mistakes, a lack of tactical understanding and a lack of cohesion, and those things will obviously make it more difficult to pick up points. It's still disappointing to lose, especially so late again, but this poor form doesn't dent my hopes for promotion next year. All our issues at the moment stem from this ridiculous injury crisis we're going through. If we were getting beaten regularly with a full squad, I'd be very worried, but that's not the case.

[plymouth wanderer]

I'm quite surprised at the negativity on here, to be honest. The results have been poor recently and the performances not much better but we're a team ripped apart by injury. We started the game tonight with two players who have joined us in the past few days on emergency loans because we're that short, and people are shocked when things aren't working? Playing Janko, Coke, McCarthy and Amos is always going to lead to mistakes, a lack of tactical understanding and a lack of cohesion, and those things will obviously make it more difficult to pick up points. It's still disappointing to lose, especially so late again, but this poor form doesn't dent my hopes for promotion next year. All our issues at the moment stem from this ridiculous injury crisis we're going through. If we were getting beaten regularly with a full squad, I'd be very worried, but that's not the case.

Spot on imo

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I'm not sure building a team around Clough is the way forward. If he continues as he started and stays fit long enough, Chelsea/Arsenal/Man U/Liverpool will hoover him up by the end of next season. Use him best we can, but if the lad turns out half as good as we think he will he wont be with us long.

As for the rest of the shower. They're still the mentally weak, average at best, bunch of shysters they were before Lennon arrived. Add in the injuries and the loan army it isn't surprising it isn't clicking. The fact that Cravies and Feeney are often held up needed on the pitch and amongst our better performers, tells you how far we've fallen. Both are triers, like Danns, but ultimately not good enough by a country mile.

I'm hoping Lennon has a major clear out in the summer. He might not have the cash to bring better in, but he might be able to fashion a team that isn't scarred by our recent history. We can build again, but it's going to take a few seasons to have a proper challenge up top.

[jaffka]

I don't think anyone else has picked up on this that the home man if the match was Steele, who just happens to be their keeper. He didn't get that from standing around with his fingers up his arse.

We had a good following, massive queues at the turnstiles, due to the insistence of searching everyone and not having all entrances accepting people.

Overall, it wasn't a very good game and pretty even.

They got more joy in the second half when they started to attack our right side. Cavies made us look more mobile and a threat up front when he came on. He should have scored though.

It wa great that Northern rail cancelled the last train when the game had kicked off. Hope everyone got back alright.

[Worthy4England]

I don't think anyone else has picked up on this that the home man if the match was Steele, who just happens to be their keeper. He didn't get that from standing around with his fingers up his arse.

We had a good following, massive queues at the turnstiles, due to the insistence of searching everyone and not having all entrances accepting people.

Overall, it wasn't a very good game and pretty even.

They got more joy in the second half when they started to attack our right side. Cavies made us look more mobile and a threat up front when he came on. He should have scored though.

It wa great that Northern rail cancelled the last train when the game had kicked off. Hope everyone got back alright.

Normally that's a decent way for a Blackburn keeper to secure the man of the match award because they have so many fingers in the first place.