BW Supporters Trust

[Dr.Karl]

Gonna turn into a massive moan-fest. Wouldn't want to be within a hundred miles of it.

That's the can do attitude. I can't believe people are knocking their efforts to make a change and actually get off their arse and do something. Even if doesn't pan out, I wish them all the success. I will certainly be following events.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Gonna turn into a massive moan-fest. Wouldn't want to be within a hundred miles of it.

That's the can do attitude. I can't believe people are knocking their efforts to make a change and actually get off their arse and do something. Even if doesn't pan out, I wish them all the success. I will certainly be following events.

Can some of us take a middle line and believe it would be worthwhile if, say, Trevor Birch was on board, but as he's not just think ok well that'll probably go nowhere? You know neither getting the pompoms out nor bitching vehemently about it.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Come now, Spotty. Internet's binary.

I wish them all the best but it might be a long hard road.

[Gary the Enfield]

Gonna turn into a massive moan-fest. Wouldn't want to be within a hundred miles of it.

That's the can do attitude. I can't believe people are knocking their efforts to make a change and actually get off their arse and do something. Even if doesn't pan out, I wish them all the success. I will certainly be following events.

Can some of us take a middle line and believe it would be worthwhile if, say, Trevor Birch was on board, but as he's not just think ok well that'll probably go nowhere? You know neither getting the pompoms out nor bitching vehemently about it.

My understanding is this is a supporter's trust. I don't think Trevor Birch would be interested.

Furthermore I don't understand what the Supporter's Trust want to achieve. Having a voice on the board is all well intentioned but the OP stated there is a body of wealthy Bolton people waiting to buy the club.

Apologies if I appear negative but I honestly don't understand their intentions, hence my reticence.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Gonna turn into a massive moan-fest. Wouldn't want to be within a hundred miles of it.

That's the can do attitude. I can't believe people are knocking their efforts to make a change and actually get off their arse and do something. Even if doesn't pan out, I wish them all the success. I will certainly be following events.

Can some of us take a middle line and believe it would be worthwhile if, say, Trevor Birch was on board, but as he's not just think ok well that'll probably go nowhere? You know neither getting the pompoms out nor bitching vehemently about it.

My understanding is this is a supporter's trust. I don't think Trevor Birch would be interested.

Furthermore I don't understand what the Supporter's Trust want to achieve. Having a voice on the board is all well intentioned but the OP stated there is a body of wealthy Bolton people waiting to buy the club.

Apologies if I appear negative but I honestly don't understand their intentions, hence my reticence.

A reticence well worth having. I mentioned Trevor Birch only because he was instrumental in the Portsmouth dealings when the fans got involved. He isn't involved in this supporter's trust thing and hence why I think it'll probably go nowhere too.

[LeverEnd]

It could be a Plan Z scenario for next season after administration and relegation. If I remember right the Portsmouth one was about picking up the pieces after it had all gone tits up. It won't have an impact in the short term but if something is set up and waiting in the wings then it might become an option.

[Hoboh]

When Trevor Birch has sod all left to peddle this lot might take over the remnants and I for one will chuck a few quid into the Wanderers of Bolton!

[jonnycooper]

Trevor Birch will be at the BWST meeting along with SKD! LOV allegedly involved in this trust!

[Gary the Enfield]

Trevor Birch will be at the BWST meeting along with SKD! LOV allegedly involved in this trust!

I'll be interested to hear what he has to (is able to) say.

[jonnycooper]

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[Lost Leopard Spot]

Trevor Birch will be at the BWST meeting along with SKD! LOV allegedly involved in this trust!

I'm much more interested now. That signals to me that he'll be having to do a Portsmouth stylee recovery operation (or at least he has a backup operation in mind.)
I mean, otherwise why would he bother turning up if he were truly negotiating with a solid investor consortium?

[Bijou Bob]

Apparently, the club have to "Consult" with a supporters trust if the club go into administration. It seems some are gullible enough to believe that consulting will mean asking for, valuing and acting upon their comments. It won't be anything of the sort. The club will tell them what is happening, end of. As we say jn the NHS, "If they're consulting in it, it's already haooened"..

[Lord Kangana]

Administrators make their own decisions. Decisions that generally suit them. It is very difficult (nigh on impossible) to go against their wishes. The only potential saving grace under our particular circumstances is that Eddie Davies would be the major creditor.

That, of course, assumes that he will put the interests of the club first even though it may lead to further loss. Given the state we're in, I do not believe for one minute that the Eddie Davies of 2016 is the Eddie Davies of early 2000's vintage. He wants out, and looks likely to do anything that will get him out.

I'm hoping that the usual naysayers will at least either shut up or at the very least join in some sort of positive process at the meeting. I do not believe that we as a club have a large enough groundswell of support to come up with some sort of continental supporters trust capable of going it alone, but perhaps at least if plenty put their shoulder to the wheel we may end up exerting a positive influence on the process. And ultimately preserving a football club for generations in the town of Bolton.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

The usual naysayers in what?
Who the fxck on here has naysayed the existence of Bolton Wanderers?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ And just to make plain, if voluntary administration IS to be entered into, which a few on here were saying only weeks back was bollocks, if, then the club has a say in who the Administrator is. Now, the one positive fxcking thing is that if you needed an administrator on board then Trevor Birch is your Gabriel fxcking Angel compared to most.

[Nicko58]

LOV allegedly involved in this trust!

You say that as if it's a good thing.

[Lord Kangana]

^ And just to make plain, if voluntary administration IS to be entered into, which a few on here were saying only weeks back was bollocks, if, then the club has a say in who the Administrator is. Now, the one positive fxcking thing is that if you needed an administrator on board then Trevor Birch is your Gabriel fxcking Angel compared to most.

Being this angry about the world is really not good for your health.

So I'll try to type it a little more slowly, as the red mist has clearly led to you picking out the meaning that you wished I'd written, rather than that which I wrote.

If we enter administration it will be more useful for we as fans to have a voice than not. A coherent supporters group is preferable to none, despite its apparent inability to influence events. The usual naysayers are the usual bass-baritoned c*nts who turn up to public meetings and, to paraphrase, usually say " well, a load of f*cking supporters is going to achieve nowt, so I don't know why you're even bothering. And I hate all your mums and dads for good measure". Or something.

Clearer?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

^ And just to make plain, if voluntary administration IS to be entered into, which a few on here were saying only weeks back was bollocks, if, then the club has a say in who the Administrator is. Now, the one positive fxcking thing is that if you needed an administrator on board then Trevor Birch is your Gabriel fxcking Angel compared to most.

Being this angry about the world is really not good for your health.

So I'll try to type it a little more slowly, as the red mist has clearly led to you picking out the meaning that you wished I'd written, rather than that which I wrote.

If we enter administration it will be more useful for we as fans to have a voice than not. A coherent supporters group is preferable to none, despite its apparent inability to influence events. The usual naysayers are the usual bass-baritoned c*nts who turn up to public meetings and, to paraphrase, usually say " well, a load of f*cking supporters is going to achieve nowt, so I don't know why you're even bothering. And I hate all your mums and dads for good measure". Or something.

Clearer?

Yes. Much.
And you are right, I leapt in with my interpretation of what you wrote.
I apologise.
Profusely.

[jonnycooper]

LOV allegedly involved in this trust!

You say that as if it's a good thing.

Where in my statement does it suggest I think it is a good thing?

[jonnycooper]

LOV allegedly involved in this trust!

You say that as if it's a good thing.

Where in my statement does it suggest I think it is a good thing?

Edit== Perhaps you chose to read it that way? Still