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Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:57 pm

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?

Eithier way! Similar measures that are being taken now should've happened 24 months ago, Birch should've been here 24 months ago.

Some of the contracts doled out since we got relegated is disgusting! suppose that has nothing to do with him?
Hindsight is always 100%. I remembered us celebrating when Owen Coyle was brought in..one of ours I heard, then when the great Neil Lennon our saviour was brought in..Champions League here we come. Very few said these were mistakes when they were signed on. Now we know.

Mistakes are always made cause we are not perfect. But come on guys, ED backed up his love for the club with his money. Maybe its all done now. Lets not bite the hands that fed us during the good times.
I get all that, and I praised him a few months back! but what's transpired since is nothing short of scandalous!

I'm usually very upbeat and in the alreet gang! but I'm edging more n more towards the panic fanny stage! I have a feeling this ain't gonna end well!

It's like the 1mill we spent on agents fees for a load of shit free transfers not 6 months ago!
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?

Eithier way! Similar measures that are being taken now should've happened 24 months ago, Birch should've been here 24 months ago.

Some of the contracts doled out since we got relegated is disgusting! suppose that has nothing to do with him?
Depends really - Davies owns the Club. That's different than runs the Club (that's what Gartside did). I suspect we'll never know at what point he said to Gartside that the ED money stops going in at date "X". I'd be very surprised if he got involved in individual Contract negotiations and I doubt he sets budgets for Gartside (from the point he stopped putting cash in.) Part of me does wonder whether someone involved in the day to day running went "rogue trader".

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?
He's certainly not a tosser and he funded our most successful spell in recent memory - all I'm saying & its only my personal opinion (and I respect others who disagree), is that this last few months for me has tarnished everything that's gone beforehand.

Perhaps a bit harsh, but that's me and its how I feel today - knowing me though it may change next week if Kia come in with a takeover & £100M investment
I agree the way this is panning out tarnishes whatever good went before. What I haven't seen from anywhere is anything that shows he's made money out of this as opposed to lost a lot. I think he would have given decent notice that he was stopping putting significant cash in and it was time for the folks running the Club to earn their corn and balance their cost against their revenue. This they've failed to do...

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:14 pm

It's all if n buts! It's ED's money, he should know where it's all gone IMO

One things for sure,something hasn't been right at the club for a long time! hopefully it'll all come out in the wash,though i'm not holding my breath.

We'll see
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?
He's certainly not a tosser and he funded our most successful spell in recent memory - all I'm saying & its only my personal opinion (and I respect others who disagree), is that this last few months for me has tarnished everything that's gone beforehand.

Perhaps a bit harsh, but that's me and its how I feel today - knowing me though it may change next week if Kia come in with a takeover & £100M investment
I agree the way this is panning out tarnishes whatever good went before. What I haven't seen from anywhere is anything that shows he's made money out of this as opposed to lost a lot. I think he would have given decent notice that he was stopping putting significant cash in and it was time for the folks running the Club to earn their corn and balance their cost against their revenue. This they've failed to do...

And the fans and tea lady are gonna suffer for there incompetence!
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Post by Burnden Paddock » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:16 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:Calm down you bunch of Panic Fannies!
1. No bid reported yet
2. The lad doesn't want to go
3. He's still largely unproven

On the other hand, I bet the fee is no more than 1 mil.
He says, posting the same thing twice 8)

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Post by Peter Thompson » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:24 pm

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?
He's certainly not a tosser and he funded our most successful spell in recent memory - all I'm saying & its only my personal opinion (and I respect others who disagree), is that this last few months for me has tarnished everything that's gone beforehand.

Perhaps a bit harsh, but that's me and its how I feel today - knowing me though it may change next week if Kia come in with a takeover & £100M investment
I agree the way this is panning out tarnishes whatever good went before. What I haven't seen from anywhere is anything that shows he's made money out of this as opposed to lost a lot. I think he would have given decent notice that he was stopping putting significant cash in and it was time for the folks running the Club to earn their corn and balance their cost against their revenue. This they've failed to do...
I was told 4 years ago that he actually wanted out & that he had informed the club of his intention to stop the funding....what has followed IMO is gross mismanagement from the chairman & the board....and Gartside has spun everyone along since then

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Peter Thompson wrote:
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?
He's certainly not a tosser and he funded our most successful spell in recent memory - all I'm saying & its only my personal opinion (and I respect others who disagree), is that this last few months for me has tarnished everything that's gone beforehand.

Perhaps a bit harsh, but that's me and its how I feel today - knowing me though it may change next week if Kia come in with a takeover & £100M investment
We have the evidence of what ED has previously done and put into the club. We have no real idea as to the ins and outs leading to the situation of the last few months - he might be ill, his businesses might be in trouble, he might be skint. We have no real idea of the ins/out of any deal in the offing and what it will mean - it might be a new dawn. I still trust ED is trying to do his best for the club, but recognise that they arent negotiating from a position of strength. Sure its good bar talk but I dont see the point in getting irate and vindictive about rumour. ED should have the benefit of doubt - but as a reverse of you PT, if it subsequently emerges that he has acted erratically, pulled the plug and forced us to where we are out of some boardroom spat or some such, then I'll quite happily say that he's spoiled his legacy.

As for Clough did people think people would be breaking down the doors for our journeymen - its disappointing, but I can think of lots of others who we've sold in the past who I've been more disappointed about on the basis they've been doing it rather than they may do. More than happy if we are just lining up our contingency options and he stays.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:31 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:It's all if n buts! It's ED's money, he should know where it's all gone IMO

One things for sure,something hasn't been right at the club for a long time! hopefully it'll all come out in the wash,though i'm not holding my breath.

We'll see
Aye - I'm still in the innocent until proven guilty camp (even if occasionally I might speculate that some fckr looks as guilty as hell :-) ). I know this is big numbers, but seriously, if I go out with £X in my pocket for a night out, I couldn't tell you how much I'd spent on wine vs lager (prolly cos I was pi$$ed) but you get the point...If the missus goes out to buy some stuff, the first I'll know about it is when the "Accounts" come in.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:33 pm

Bristol City. Bristol fecking City.

I give up.

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plymouth wanderer wrote:It's all if n buts! It's ED's money, he should know where it's all gone IMO

One things for sure,something hasn't been right at the club for a long time! hopefully it'll all come out in the wash,though i'm not holding my breath.

We'll see
Aye - I'm still in the innocent until proven guilty camp (even if occasionally I might speculate that some fckr looks as guilty as hell :-) ). I know this is big numbers, but seriously, if I go out with £X in my pocket for a night out, I couldn't tell you how much I'd spent on wine vs lager (prolly cos I was pi$$ed) but you get the point...If the missus goes out to buy some stuff, the first I'll know about it is when the "Accounts" come in.
I do hope we'll find out one day!

It's time for unity I suppose :pissed:
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Peter Thompson wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Peter Thompson wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Black and White. Never any gray. The human brain is wired that way. For fxcking good reason's because if it wasn't we'd all be frozen in indecision when the sabre toothed tiger launches. But please, there's no sabre-tooths even remotely present. He (ED) has done some marvellous things, and he's equally been a tosser about others.
Has he been a tosser? Or just run out of cash to put in?
He's certainly not a tosser and he funded our most successful spell in recent memory - all I'm saying & its only my personal opinion (and I respect others who disagree), is that this last few months for me has tarnished everything that's gone beforehand.

Perhaps a bit harsh, but that's me and its how I feel today - knowing me though it may change next week if Kia come in with a takeover & £100M investment
I agree the way this is panning out tarnishes whatever good went before. What I haven't seen from anywhere is anything that shows he's made money out of this as opposed to lost a lot. I think he would have given decent notice that he was stopping putting significant cash in and it was time for the folks running the Club to earn their corn and balance their cost against their revenue. This they've failed to do...
I was told 4 years ago that he actually wanted out & that he had informed the club of his intention to stop the funding....what has followed IMO is gross mismanagement from the chairman & the board....and Gartside has spun everyone along since then
Yeah I was looking online to see if I could find the earliest "story" that ED was cutting funding. I thought it was towards the latter stages of us being in the Prem, but couldn't find anything much.

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:37 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Bristol City. Bristol fecking City.

I give up.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:38 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Bristol City. Bristol fecking City.

I give up.
i remember when I started watching Wanderers that Bristol City seemed a much bigger club than us.

#recalibrate

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:39 pm

Bristol City. Huge bid for Zach Clough at Bolton. Fee accepted. Pay a few bills. Player can speak. May need persuading. Bit more in paper(?)

It's a shame if Zach feels he needs to leave for the good of the club! hope the boy digs his heels in.
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Post by officer_dibble » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:39 pm

ED and gartside can fck off for me now like...cheers for the good times but the last 5 years have been a right fck up. And they carry the can.

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:41 pm

officer_dibble wrote:ED and gartside can fck off for me now like...cheers for the good times but the last 5 years have been a right fck up. And they carry the can.
Any update on Gartside?
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Post by Burnden Paddock » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:43 pm

Surely we don't have to take one of the first couple of bids? There will be others. Bristol feckin City! :roll:

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Bristol City. Bristol fecking City.

I give up.
i remember when I started watching Wanderers that Bristol City seemed a much bigger club than us.

#recalibrate
Yup. #nogodgivenright...

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Post by Peter Thompson » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:48 pm

officer_dibble wrote:ED and gartside can fck off for me now like...cheers for the good times but the last 5 years have been a right fck up. And they carry the can.
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