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Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:59 pm

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Jugs wrote:But I've said all I need to say on Mavies, and he's gone now so good luck to him.
has he? what - as in, actually gone? I may have missed that in all the excitement!
I've no idea to be honest, but from the bits and the pieces I'd read on here that it was all but done and dusted? Not sure though mate.

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Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:00 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I have a hunch that this season has been Mavies's most reliable in terms of appearances. Maybe I'll get round to checking that, but I'm not promising. I do have work to do...

(Speaking of which, if anybody knows a site that shows a team's results by opponent - eg Norwich not beating Liverpool in ages, Spurs usually losing to Chelsea - I'm all ears)
Same! :P This site feeds my procrastination when I work from home.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:04 pm

Thanks for site tips, folks. In exchange, here's a Marc Iles tweet:

"Mark Davies' agent weighing into a messy move to #swfc now - claiming club tried to pull out on medical grounds without a medical!"

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Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:06 pm

Okay, so he hasn't gone yet ...

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Post by thebish » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:07 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Thanks for site tips, folks. In exchange, here's a Marc Iles tweet:

"Mark Davies' agent weighing into a messy move to #swfc now - claiming club tried to pull out on medical grounds without a medical!"

maybe they judged that the rigours of the actual medical - doing some running and stuff - would probably result in injury? :D

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:07 pm

Dr.Karl wrote:http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd

Has all the results between two teams. On a side note, I'm surprised there isn't a go to website like IMDb for football. Soccerway is good, but only for recent seasons. I think there could be a market for it, add features like which player played with which player at which club etc
I quite agree. Was aware of Soccerbase's H2H - have plugged it on here a time or two - and besides Soccerway, there's also Soccerassociation and Statto do decent jobs too, and Footymad's league history feature is very useful, but there's no one site to pull them all together. I did once spend a day or so trying to compile a wishlist of the best bits but I went a bit boggly-eyed... probably needs someone bookishly data-driven to do the hard thinking with input from an editorial type like me...

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:08 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Thanks for site tips, folks. In exchange, here's a Marc Iles tweet:

"Mark Davies' agent weighing into a messy move to #swfc now - claiming club tried to pull out on medical grounds without a medical!"
To be fair, I'm no doctor but can still tell you that Mavies is a long-term injury waiting to happen.
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Post by Andy Waller » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:10 pm

thebish wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Thanks for site tips, folks. In exchange, here's a Marc Iles tweet:

"Mark Davies' agent weighing into a messy move to #swfc now - claiming club tried to pull out on medical grounds without a medical!"

maybe they judged that the rigours of the actual medical - doing some running and stuff - would probably result in injury? :D

He'd tweak his hamstring signing the contract
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:42 pm

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thebish wrote:nahh - offloading an asset that costs us tons of cash in order to make the business more attractive is NOT the same logic as offloading an asset that brings in cash to make the business more attractive.

either way - I don't share your conclusion that Birch is some kind of raging thicko who doesn't know what he's doing.
The training ground doesn't make us money. It will have a running cost associated with it though, so lets pay someone to take that off our hands?
now you're just being silly! we may have to sell the training ground - but it's not the same scenario or logic as selling a player.

a player is much easier to replace with a less costly alternative than a training ground is - and we have spare players already on the books.

and - I was referring to your hotel comment...
I was questioning the logic of paying money to have an asset taken off our hands to reduce the outgoings AT THIS STAGE.

The logic of getting a few hundred thousand to buy an extra week or two for negotiation whilst also reducing the wage bill is fine. Absolutely understandable and Davies for say £500K would make sense under the circumstances given he's a high earner and not really reaching his potential.

The idea however, of moving him out and it costing us money to do so AT THIS STAGE, simply doesn't seem to make all that much sense to me. I don't think he's of zero value as a playing asset. I also don't see how in the short term it helps. And we are in short term mode right now. Lets say we've paid him 3 months wages. For 3 months we're down a player and have no benefit at all.

But lets say a new owner arrived, who could pay the wage bill this season and maintain things. Then Davies could easily be worth something as a sellable asset and we wouldn't have to accept the first vulture that came a circling....

Also it really grates given we apparently have an ace neogtiator in place to squeeze every penny out of deals that we are having to PAY to give another side one of our better players. I really don't think under normal circumstances that would be the best deal we could do. And I question how logical it is to do that deal NOW.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:01 pm

Nixon says Davies trained with us today.

Iles says Davies' agent claims Wednesday were trying to pull out on medical grounds before he'd had a medical.

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Post by DJBlu » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:42 pm

They probably own an X-ray machine at Sheffield Wednesday and subsequently shit themselves when Davies disappeared after they switched it on.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:08 pm

thebish wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Thanks for site tips, folks. In exchange, here's a Marc Iles tweet:

"Mark Davies' agent weighing into a messy move to #swfc now - claiming club tried to pull out on medical grounds without a medical!"

maybe they judged that the rigours of the actual medical - doing some running and stuff - would probably result in injury? :D
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:09 pm

Medo's gone - contract cancelled by mutual consent.
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Post by Hoboh » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:12 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Medo's gone - contract cancelled by mutual consent.
Who? :conf:

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Post by StaffsTrotter » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:28 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Medo's gone - contract cancelled by mutual consent.
is that the car park, office or hotel money thats paid that then ?

Medo will always remain a mystery - seemed a coup when we signed him, ok but nothing special, but at same time not bad enough to be completely frozen out. Guess he fell out of favour and couldnt be arsed trying to get back in, or soon realised it didnt matter what he did. Slightly bizarrely he has tweeted a rather gushing farewell

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jan 14, 2016 4:45 pm

^ words fail me.
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Post by malcd1 » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:00 pm

I saw him in the car park at Astley Bridge Asda last week. Just got out of an expensive looking Range Rover. He looked trim and athletic. I'm sure he will get fixed up somewhere.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:04 pm

He might score the winner for Dougie on Saturday...

In seriousness, I wonder if we paid some severance or if he just waived the last six months of his contract. He hasn't exactly been clawing at the walls to get out, has he?

And if we did pay severance (and are/were possibly willing to do so for Mavies), is this more evidence of emergency cost-cutting?

And is anyone going to claim we've lost an asset which might damage the sale of the club?

"F*ck this," says Deano, "No Medo, no deal"

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:13 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:He might score the winner for Dougie on Saturday...

In seriousness, I wonder if we paid some severance or if he just waived the last six months of his contract. He hasn't exactly been clawing at the walls to get out, has he?

And if we did pay severance (and are/were possibly willing to do so for Mavies), is this more evidence of emergency cost-cutting?

And is anyone going to claim we've lost an asset which might damage the sale of the club?

"F*ck this," says Deano, "No Medo, no deal"
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You need to jack your present job in and write a screenplay for a sitcom called "The Decay & Fall of Trotters & Co".
At the conclusion of series one I want to hear the actor playing Deano to say precisely that - Fxck this, no Medo, no deal.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:19 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:At the conclusion of series one I want to hear the actor playing Deano to say precisely that - Fxck this, no Medo, no deal.
It'd be a hell of a cliffhanger. What happens next? Tune in to find out...

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