Spotty's Seriously Sub-standard Second Rate Transfer Thread.

[BWFC_Insane]

Until a takeover nothing is actually solved. And players are still up for sale. We haven't not sold our best players through choice. Clough turned down a move, Davies couldn't agree terms with SW and Vela might have gone but for Cardiff's transfer embargo.

...which didn't stop you telling is most assuredly that we would HAVE no choice and they would all be gone by now.

We didn't have any choice. Which players are here because we stopped them talking to other clubs?

[thebish]

you can't say - we haven't sold our best players through choice

and also - we have no choice in the matter. (not agreeing terms suggest we DO have a choice in the matter!)

[BWFC_Insane]

you can't say - we haven't sold our best players through choice

and also - we have no choice in the matter. (not agreeing terms suggest we DO have a choice in the matter!)

The bids were accepted. The moves were out of our hands. The reason they failed nothing to do with that.

We even accepted paying Davies off before that one broke down. It is very simple. The club had no choice. The players and buying clubs did.

When the car park money runs out it will be exactly the same situation if a takeover hasn't happened.

[Burnden Paddock]

Didn't ED veto Vela's move before Cardiff's embargo was announced? Therefore we had a choice and exercised our right not to sell. feck me. It's OK not to post for a day you know, instead of posting pointless shite and trying to make it sound as though you know all the ins and outs of the clubs dealings!

[LeverEnd]

Didn't ED veto Vela's move before Cardiff's embargo was announced? Therefore we had a choice and exercised our right not to sell. feck me. It's OK not to post for a day you know, instead of posting pointless shite and trying to make it sound as though you know all the ins and outs of the clubs dealings!

The vetto was reported somewhere but Iles said it was bollocks. Who knows? I don't even care anymore. My opinion will have no bearing at all on what will happen, so I'm not going to stress about it.

[TKIZ!]

Derby 'courting' Samizadeh as well. Be a bit gutted about this as from what I've seen of the under 18's he pretty decent

[bobo the clown]

Cardiff have an embargo slapped on them. They argue that it shouldn't be & are appealing.

Samizadeh is a cheeky fckg bid & we can still afgord to tell Derby to do one ... and should.

[jonnycooper]

Sky scources - Feeney in talks with Charlton

Yay Let's really turn the screw on our Club and help out a relegation rival! He's not one of our high earners,but has been one of our best this season..

[Harry Genshaw]

Sky scources - Feeney in talks with Charlton

Yay Let's really turn the screw on our Club and help out a relegation rival! He's not one of our high earners,but has been one of our best this season..

My thoughts exactly. I don't harbour much hope of us surviving but selling our most creative outlet to them (who are almost as big a basket case as us at the moment ) would kill that little hope I had

[Bijou Bob]

Sky scources - Feeney in talks with Charlton

Yay Let's really turn the screw on our Club and help out a relegation rival! He's not one of our high earners,but has been one of our best this season..

My thoughts exactly. I don't harbour much hope of us surviving but selling our most creative outlet to them (who are almost as big a basket case as us at the moment ) would kill that little hope I had

Ah, so you do admit that hope remains then??

[TonyDomingos]

50 pages? 50 flippin' pages and all we've got is a transfer embargo. Substandard and second rate would have been nirvana compared to this!

[Jugs]

It's just ups and downs all the time at the moment. We beat MK Dons and then read that Feeney might be off to our relegation rivals. Now, Feeney has had his critics this season; Tower FM's Gary Henshaw reminds us that he 'lacks a footballing brain' every 5 minutes while I've certainly sworn at him on a few occasions - only to beg his forgiveness not long later after he whips in an assist of scores a goal. And that's the thing with Feeney; sometimes, he's really bad. But he's also sometimes really good and we need to keep him if we're to stay up. Who's going to replace him on the wing anyway?

[Harry Genshaw]

Feeney is your typical winger. Blows hot and cold but he's adequate for the championship and is one of our mist creative players. He scores a few too so would be a huge loss if he goes

[jonnycooper]

A poor mans David Lee!

[malcd1]

Feeney is your typical winger. Blows hot and cold but he's adequate for the championship and is one of our mist creative players. He scores a few too so would be a huge loss if he goes

My thoughts exactly. Wingers normally have as many off days as good days. He is no different.

I think Feeney is one of our better players and we should keep him if we can. He is fairly limited but a trier and on his day, like Saturday, is capable of producing decent crosses. Obviously we are not going to get promoted in the near future so we are not going to get much better.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

BN this morning has a fine tabloid headline of "Wanderers braced for Prats raid". Iles thinks Ipswich will be back for our suddenly marvellous captain, and notes that despite our "healthiest financial position for months" if/when the car park sale is confirmed today, "Lennon is expecting to be told he must reduce the wage bill further before the end of January to ease the pressure on the rest of the season".

More Lennon:

It has gone a little quiet {on outgoing transfers} but I’d be surprised if my phone doesn’t start ringing next {ie this} week. There was interest in him {D-Pratz} and I think there is still interest in him this month as well. He has been superb. He is starting to show the form he had last season before he got that really bad hamstring injury. He is pitching in, not only with all round good performances, but goals as well. That’s the reason we kept him on. He is captain material and he is starting to drive the team forward.

On Twitter about Feeney, Iles has said "Heard a couple of clubs linked with him but no bids at present. One to keep an eye on."

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Feeney is your typical winger. Blows hot and cold but he's adequate for the championship and is one of our mist creative players. He scores a few too so would be a huge loss if he goes

My thoughts exactly. Wingers normally have as many off days as good days. He is no different.

I think Feeney is one of our better players and we should keep him if we can. He is fairly limited but a trier and on his day, like Saturday, is capable of producing decent crosses. Obviously we are not going to get promoted in the near future so we are not going to get much better.

According to an article I read recently (can't remember where), he's redundant, outmoded, a bit of an antique. Apparently all the Premiership (I know, I know) sides have abandoned wingers who cross from the sidelines for inverted wingers who run into the centre and pass the ball into a lurking no 10 who is magically controlling zone 14 (which I'd never heard of but is apparently football's answer to ufology's area 51).

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Feeney is your typical winger. Blows hot and cold but he's adequate for the championship and is one of our mist creative players. He scores a few too so would be a huge loss if he goes

My thoughts exactly. Wingers normally have as many off days as good days. He is no different.

I think Feeney is one of our better players and we should keep him if we can. He is fairly limited but a trier and on his day, like Saturday, is capable of producing decent crosses. Obviously we are not going to get promoted in the near future so we are not going to get much better.

According to an article I read recently (can't remember where), he's redundant, outmoded, a bit of an antique. Apparently all the Premiership (I know, I know) sides have abandoned wingers who cross from the sidelines for inverted wingers who run into the centre and pass the ball into a lurking no 10 who is magically controlling zone 14 (which I'd never heard of but is apparently football's answer to ufology's area 51).

It's an interesting area. I posted this during the Eastleigh game (so it therefore got lost) when someone asked "How many times this season have we heard 'Feeney hits the first man'?":

Probably quite a lot, because crossing is a very inefficient method of passing and frequently doesn't work out. Like when Moyes's Man U had more than 100 cross in a game and lost. Therefore, once wingers get a reputation as wasteful, there's plenty of chance for confirmation bias.

If it helps, I was talking to a Spurs fan last week and apparently they have a sizeable, vocal section of fans who think Christian Eriksen is a liability because his set-pieces are sometimes headed away. Spurs have scored more goals from set-pieces this season than any other PL team, and Feeney has more assists this season than any other Bolton player.

Arsenal attempted 22 crosses yesterday, and only 1 reached a team-mate. Chelsea attempted 15, of which 4 were successful, one of them creating the goal.

[Worthy4England]

Feeney is your typical winger. Blows hot and cold but he's adequate for the championship and is one of our mist creative players. He scores a few too so would be a huge loss if he goes

My thoughts exactly. Wingers normally have as many off days as good days. He is no different.

I think Feeney is one of our better players and we should keep him if we can. He is fairly limited but a trier and on his day, like Saturday, is capable of producing decent crosses. Obviously we are not going to get promoted in the near future so we are not going to get much better.

According to an article I read recently (can't remember where), he's redundant, outmoded, a bit of an antique. Apparently all the Premiership (I know, I know) sides have abandoned wingers who cross from the sidelines for inverted wingers who run into the centre and pass the ball into a lurking no 10 who is magically controlling zone 14 (which I'd never heard of but is apparently football's answer to ufology's area 51).

As someone pointed out when we were looking for a big goal-scoring centre forward - they don't exist anymore, not required....just look at Manchester United they don't have one - well I'm still looking at us (and occasionally glancing at the redshite, laughing) to see how well it's working...think 11 Prem Teams have scored equal or more than them...The world and a dog called spot have scored more than us.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Feeney is your typical winger. Blows hot and cold but he's adequate for the championship and is one of our mist creative players. He scores a few too so would be a huge loss if he goes

My thoughts exactly. Wingers normally have as many off days as good days. He is no different.

I think Feeney is one of our better players and we should keep him if we can. He is fairly limited but a trier and on his day, like Saturday, is capable of producing decent crosses. Obviously we are not going to get promoted in the near future so we are not going to get much better.

According to an article I read recently (can't remember where), he's redundant, outmoded, a bit of an antique. Apparently all the Premiership (I know, I know) sides have abandoned wingers who cross from the sidelines for inverted wingers who run into the centre and pass the ball into a lurking no 10 who is magically controlling zone 14 (which I'd never heard of but is apparently football's answer to ufology's area 51).

As someone pointed out when we were looking for a big goal-scoring centre forward - they don't exist anymore, not required....just look at Manchester United they don't have one - well I'm still looking at us (and occasionally glancing at the redshite, laughing) to see how well it's working...think 11 Prem Teams have scored equal or more than them...The world and a dog called spot have scored more than us.

Absolutely.
Alex Ferguson, arguably the most successful manager ever, built his entire management career on 'classic' fooball with wingers crossing into centre forwards. This new fangled inverted winger bollox must surely just be a passing fad (excuse the pun).