BW Supporters Trust

[boltonboris]

Just learned that Supporters direct appoint the steering group. Not the founders and organisers of the trust

FYI an ting

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Just learned that Supporters direct appoint the steering group. Not the founders and organisers of the trust

FYI an ting

Ta. ( I shall email them Direct (they should appreciate that) and ask them their parameters).

[Worthy4England]

Whilst I haven't noticed anyone suggesting the ST is a bad idea,fans have a right to put questions regarding whom shall be running/steering the trust.We,ve all banged on for years about openness and clarity from the Club.So legitimate questions require legitimate answers from the ST.It very well may turn out to be the best thing for BWFC,but the current leaders appear to be attacking anyone who questions it.

I thought they answered this one last night pretty much along the lines of

1) There's three of us at the moment, there were 7 originally. We're X, Y and Z (Can't recall their names)
2) When it's set up none of us will be standing for election so we couldn't tell you who'd run it in the future because it hasn't been decided...

Did I miss something?

Yes. You missed the bit where it was asked who would be choosing the Steering Group and on what criteria will the chosen be selected for. The only answer forthcoming to this repeatedly asked question is "over 300 people have expressed an interest on being on the Group and they will be chosen for their relevant skill sets". But yes, we know that already but who exactly will be doing the choosing, and how exactly are they determining what relevant skill sets are required?

Nossir, didn't miss that. Just don't really care about it. Bigger things to worry about.

[Hoboh]

Supporters Direct isn't it Spotty? The idea being that they use their experience from other trusts and feed it into setting up the next. No idea if it will lead to anything concrete but I must admit I fail to understand the hostility to it at such an embryonic stage.

I think people are wondering with the lack of clarity about those supposedly forming this organisation, just why are they doing it, supporters or glory chasers or someone who fancies being Gartside mk2?

[Worthy4England]

Supporters Direct isn't it Spotty? The idea being that they use their experience from other trusts and feed it into setting up the next. No idea if it will lead to anything concrete but I must admit I fail to understand the hostility to it at such an embryonic stage.

I think people are wondering with the lack of clarity about those supposedly forming this organisation, just why are they doing it, supporters or glory chasers or someone who fancies being Gartside mk2?

You could of course keep your tenner in your pocket and save yourself all that worry...

[Hoboh]

Supporters Direct isn't it Spotty? The idea being that they use their experience from other trusts and feed it into setting up the next. No idea if it will lead to anything concrete but I must admit I fail to understand the hostility to it at such an embryonic stage.

I think people are wondering with the lack of clarity about those supposedly forming this organisation, just why are they doing it, supporters or glory chasers or someone who fancies being Gartside mk2?

You could of course keep your tenner in your pocket and save yourself all that worry...

Ain't putting it in until I know more to be honest.
It could end up liking joining a common market

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I kept on asking the question and getting evasive answers. I asked who is going to pick the Steering Group members and using what criteria? - and got the woolly answer 'we' will pick people with the 'correct skillsets'.

: On Saturday before the MK Dons game, the initial steering group of the BWFCST (Christopher Peacock, Mike Smith, Ian Bridge, Jonny Eckersley and Jamie Gregory) met for the first time to continue the process for formally getting the Trust running so that the subsequent elections can take place as soon as possible.

The first thing agreed was that Richard Hurst will act as interim chair of the steering group.

- so no 'fan' involvement. No vote for 'interim' chairman, and the skillset is that he's a businessman who knows Phil Gartside:
Richard Hurst - chairman of Richard Threlfall Group, nominee for 2016 Club Captain of Bolton Golf Club, and board member of BW Free School (alongside Phil Gartside and governor Brett Warburton)

I can just imagine the meeting when, for first time, the leadership of the non-interim steering committee will be voted on, with no doubt the ballot totally influenced by official nominations from the 'interim steering group'. It's how it works in North Korea too. If George Orwell had written a book on how to set up a "fans' trust" with links to the old regime its storyline would unfold in a similar manner to the reality taking place...

[Gary the Enfield]

I kept on asking the question and getting evasive answers. I asked who is going to pick the Steering Group members and using what criteria? - and got the woolly answer 'we' will pick people with the 'correct skillsets'.

: On Saturday before the MK Dons game, the initial steering group of the BWFCST (Christopher Peacock, Mike Smith, Ian Bridge, Jonny Eckersley and Jamie Gregory) met for the first time to continue the process for formally getting the Trust running so that the subsequent elections can take place as soon as possible.

The first thing agreed was that Richard Hurst will act as interim chair of the steering group.

- so no 'fan' involvement. No vote for 'interim' chairman, and the skillset is that he's a businessman who knows Phil Gartside:
Richard Hurst - chairman of Richard Threlfall Group, nominee for 2016 Club Captain of Bolton Golf Club, and board member of BW Free School (alongside Phil Gartside and governor Brett Warburton)

I can just imagine the meeting when, for first time, the leadership of the non-interim steering committee will be voted on, with no doubt the ballot totally influenced by official nominations from the 'interim steering group'. It's how it works in North Korea too. If George Orwell had written a book on how to set up a "fans' trust" with links to the old regime its storyline would unfold in a similar manner to the reality taking place...

‘Twelve voices were shouting in anger and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but it was already impossible to say which was which.’

George Orwell - Animal Farm


'Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose, the more that things change, the more they stay the same' Rush - Circumstances

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I kept on asking the question and getting evasive answers. I asked who is going to pick the Steering Group members and using what criteria? - and got the woolly answer 'we' will pick people with the 'correct skillsets'.

: On Saturday before the MK Dons game, the initial steering group of the BWFCST (Christopher Peacock, Mike Smith, Ian Bridge, Jonny Eckersley and Jamie Gregory) met for the first time to continue the process for formally getting the Trust running so that the subsequent elections can take place as soon as possible.

The first thing agreed was that Richard Hurst will act as interim chair of the steering group.

- so no 'fan' involvement. No vote for 'interim' chairman, and the skillset is that he's a businessman who knows Phil Gartside:
Richard Hurst - chairman of Richard Threlfall Group, nominee for 2016 Club Captain of Bolton Golf Club, and board member of BW Free School (alongside Phil Gartside and governor Brett Warburton)

I can just imagine the meeting when, for first time, the leadership of the non-interim steering committee will be voted on, with no doubt the ballot totally influenced by official nominations from the 'interim steering group'. It's how it works in North Korea too. If George Orwell had written a book on how to set up a "fans' trust" with links to the old regime its storyline would unfold in a similar manner to the reality taking place...

‘Twelve voices were shouting in anger and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but it was already impossible to say which was which.’

George Orwell - Animal Farm


'Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose, the more that things change, the more they stay the same' Rush - Circumstances

I was always a "four legs good, two legs bad" man myself, but the "four legs good, two legs better" brigade, with their masonic handshakes and their public school networking always seem to outflank us naive revolutionaries.

[thebish]

I was always a "four legs good, two legs bad" man myself..

don't you think those play-off semi-finals already go on long enough???

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I was always a "four legs good, two legs bad" man myself..

don't you think those play-off semi-finals already go on long enough???

very good.

[Peter Thompson]

I kept on asking the question and getting evasive answers. I asked who is going to pick the Steering Group members and using what criteria? - and got the woolly answer 'we' will pick people with the 'correct skillsets'.

: On Saturday before the MK Dons game, the initial steering group of the BWFCST (Christopher Peacock, Mike Smith, Ian Bridge, Jonny Eckersley and Jamie Gregory) met for the first time to continue the process for formally getting the Trust running so that the subsequent elections can take place as soon as possible.

The first thing agreed was that Richard Hurst will act as interim chair of the steering group.

- so no 'fan' involvement. No vote for 'interim' chairman, and the skillset is that he's a businessman who knows Phil Gartside:
Richard Hurst - chairman of Richard Threlfall Group, nominee for 2016 Club Captain of Bolton Golf Club, and board member of BW Free School (alongside Phil Gartside and governor Brett Warburton)

I can just imagine the meeting when, for first time, the leadership of the non-interim steering committee will be voted on, with no doubt the ballot totally influenced by official nominations from the 'interim steering group'. It's how it works in North Korea too. If George Orwell had written a book on how to set up a "fans' trust" with links to the old regime its storyline would unfold in a similar manner to the reality taking place...

Is apparently a mate of PG's & Brett Warburton - so I'll be withdrawing my membership of the supporters trust

Independent my arse....

[BWFC_Insane]

I kept on asking the question and getting evasive answers. I asked who is going to pick the Steering Group members and using what criteria? - and got the woolly answer 'we' will pick people with the 'correct skillsets'.

: On Saturday before the MK Dons game, the initial steering group of the BWFCST (Christopher Peacock, Mike Smith, Ian Bridge, Jonny Eckersley and Jamie Gregory) met for the first time to continue the process for formally getting the Trust running so that the subsequent elections can take place as soon as possible.

The first thing agreed was that Richard Hurst will act as interim chair of the steering group.

- so no 'fan' involvement. No vote for 'interim' chairman, and the skillset is that he's a businessman who knows Phil Gartside:
Richard Hurst - chairman of Richard Threlfall Group, nominee for 2016 Club Captain of Bolton Golf Club, and board member of BW Free School (alongside Phil Gartside and governor Brett Warburton)

I can just imagine the meeting when, for first time, the leadership of the non-interim steering committee will be voted on, with no doubt the ballot totally influenced by official nominations from the 'interim steering group'. It's how it works in North Korea too. If George Orwell had written a book on how to set up a "fans' trust" with links to the old regime its storyline would unfold in a similar manner to the reality taking place...

Is apparently a mate of PG's & Brett Warburton - so I'll be withdrawing my membership of the supporters trust

Independent my arse....

I'm not sure how that makes it "not independent". I imagine that many folk with the skills, interest and experience to do that role might know Phil Gartside and other members of the board. It is the nature of it.

The current board won't be running the club soon (either we'll be in admin or have new owners) so it certainly will be independent.

It does of course not look all that great for the Supporters Trust, but that is the issue with these things, you often get only a few capable and willing people who all tend to be swimming in the same pool.

[Harry Genshaw]

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Valid points all Insane but even a sniff of Gartside or Warburton involvement and I'm out

[TKIZ!]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14 ... sonal_gain_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Oh that will be alright then

[Lost Leopard Spot]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14 ... sonal_gain_/

Oh that will be alright then

Should be renamed BWFCSTFATLOTBWTAOITOIPOP

Bolton Wanderers Football Club Supporters Trust Founded Along The Lines Of The Bolsheviks With The Aim Of Injecting Their Own Into Positions Of Power

[Harry Genshaw]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14 ... sonal_gain_/

Oh that will be alright then

Should be renamed BWFCSTFATLOTBWTAOITOIPOP

Bolton Wanderers Football Club Supporters Trust Founded Along The Lines Of The Bolsheviks With The Aim Of Injecting Their Own Into Positions Of Power

I never thought a takeover by North Koreans would be likely to be more democratic!

[Lost Leopard Spot]

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/14 ... sonal_gain_/

Oh that will be alright then

Should be renamed BWFCSTFATLOTBWTAOITOIPOP

Bolton Wanderers Football Club Supporters Trust Founded Along The Lines Of The Bolsheviks With The Aim Of Injecting Their Own Into Positions Of Power

I never thought a takeover by North Koreans would be likely to be more democratic!

Me neither.

[Worthy4England]

I don't immediately see a problem. He would be voted upon by Trust Members at the Trust's inception. If the Trust members didn't want him, then off he pops...as I understand it.

[Lord Kangana]

I think this is the least of our worries, really.