The Great Art Debate
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Do you think that the artist might have built-in a level of decomposition? I know that we break down into gasses which cause dead bodies to swell, but I'm not sure how long the process takes to start.TANGODANCER wrote:Yes, I know, I checked. Jesus appeared to the rest of them the same day, but Thomas wasn't there first time and Jesus appeared again a week later and proved himself to Thomas.thebish wrote:TANGODANCER wrote:Dear, dear Bish, how you love to split hairs. Both happened on the same day and the subject of Caravaggios paintings was Jesus appearing to his disiples after his ressurection. Not a bible in the world would dispute that.thebish wrote:that's not the same subject - that's "doubting" Thomas! The other is the Emmaus Road...a painting of the Emmaus Road meal is not the same subject as the appearance to "doubting" thomas in the locked room... they are different subjects!!
(also - not sure why you say they were on the same day... the Emmaus story is in Mark and Luke, the doubting Thomas story is in John's gospel.)
My point was the change in Jesus at the time of his revelation (8 days in all), as both shown by the artist.
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He just used a different model.TANGODANCER wrote:Same artist, same subject, vastly different Jesus.

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Yes, I noticed.mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:He just used a different model.TANGODANCER wrote:Same artist, same subject, vastly different Jesus.
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Yes, it was an enjoyable programme.William the White wrote:I think you'll enjoy. I certainly did.mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Thanks for the heads up, Will - I will watch tomorrow.William the White wrote:Portillo on Picasso at 10.00 on ITV.
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Before that ep 2 of The Village.
Portillo did well with a subject that isn't really a passion - in every programme on opera or naval history or train travel I have seen him make, not once do I remember his uttering a word of enthusiasm for painting before. Even against this background, it was quite amazing to learn that he had never seen the Guernica painting before, given the significance of that episode in Spanish history in his own family story.
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Making my way through that The Power of Art series. Amazing how much a bit of background detail can make a painting conjure up so much emotion. Such as The Death of Marat. Beautiful, tragic, anger, and all full of lies.


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We've got new art prints that have been put up at work. I don't mind the Kandinsky, or the Dali. The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity, but the one really pissing me off (and it's only been up half a day) is the Klee. 1919 two dromedaries and a donkey

just get t'feck Paul Klee.

just get t'feck Paul Klee.
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Which ones?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
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I've got a poster of a Klee in my room 

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I'm not at work PB so I'll gather the titles tomorrow, but the Magritte is the one with umbrella and apple face.mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Which ones?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
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And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
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I must say - I did wonder how come a man with nowt to do on a Friday found himself going in on a Saturday?!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
I was about to blame Thatcher, and everything!

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I had plenty to do Brucie, the problem was it weren't necessary to engage brain to do ituBruce Rioja wrote:I must say - I did wonder how come a man with nowt to do on a Friday found himself going in on a Saturday?!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
I was about to blame Thatcher, and everything!
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Ahh, that'll be why you were putting too much thought into my connection then.Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I had plenty to do Brucie, the problem was it weren't necessary to engage brain to do ituBruce Rioja wrote:I must say - I did wonder how come a man with nowt to do on a Friday found himself going in on a Saturday?!Lost Leopard Spot wrote:And of course this being Saturday, it'll have to wait until Monday (my how time flies).
I was about to blame Thatcher, and everything!

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the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Which ones?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
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AKA Crazy Horse...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Which ones?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
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thebish wrote:AKA Crazy Horse...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Which ones?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
It's not how I imagine him somehow... in fact almost the very antithesis of the image I have of CrazyHorse...

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does this help?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:thebish wrote:AKA Crazy Horse...Lost Leopard Spot wrote:the Magritte is the Son of Man (no umbrella, I must have dreamt that)mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Which ones?Lost Leopard Spot wrote:The Magritte is a little twee and the Modigliani does not stand up to much scrutinity,
and the Modigliani is Count Wielhorski
It's not how I imagine him somehow... in fact almost the very antithesis of the image I have of CrazyHorse...

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Yup.
But he still needs to lose the beard, and have bigger bones.
Being a Sioux warrior would help too.
But he still needs to lose the beard, and have bigger bones.
Being a Sioux warrior would help too.
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