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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Lord Kangana » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:47 pm

I hadn't realised that people purposefully put two in. I just thought they were crap at typing.
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:43 pm

When I learned to type it was two, but the world has changed. I am certainly a one space man now. For some, apparently, old habits die hard or perhaps they suffer from an excess of patriotism since I read;
There have been a number of conventions relating to the spacing after a full stop. Some examples are listed below:

* One word space (French Spacing). This is the current convention in countries that use the modern Latin alphabet for published and final written work, as well as digital (World Wide Web) media.[6][7]
* Two word spaces (English Spacing). The two-space convention stems from the use of the monospaced font on typewriters—the intent was to provide a clear break between sentences. This historical convention was carried on by tradition until its widespread replacement by the single space convention in published print and digital media today.
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by William the White » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:47 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:When I learned to type it was two, but the world has changed. I am certainly a one space man now. For some, apparently, old habits die hard or perhaps they suffer from an excess of patriotism since I read;
There have been a number of conventions relating to the spacing after a full stop. Some examples are listed below:

* One word space (French Spacing). This is the current convention in countries that use the modern Latin alphabet for published and final written work, as well as digital (World Wide Web) media.[6][7]
* Two word spaces (English Spacing). The two-space convention stems from the use of the monospaced font on typewriters—the intent was to provide a clear break between sentences. This historical convention was carried on by tradition until its widespread replacement by the single space convention in published print and digital media today.
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So much for those word processing qualification thingees.
The source, please, Monty... My co-writer wants putting in his place, since he's still arguing with me about it after two plays produced, several drafts of each, and several hundred bad-tempered sulky corrections from me...

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:44 am

William the White wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:When I learned to type it was two, but the world has changed. I am certainly a one space man now. For some, apparently, old habits die hard or perhaps they suffer from an excess of patriotism since I read;
There have been a number of conventions relating to the spacing after a full stop. Some examples are listed below:

* One word space (French Spacing). This is the current convention in countries that use the modern Latin alphabet for published and final written work, as well as digital (World Wide Web) media.[6][7]
* Two word spaces (English Spacing). The two-space convention stems from the use of the monospaced font on typewriters—the intent was to provide a clear break between sentences. This historical convention was carried on by tradition until its widespread replacement by the single space convention in published print and digital media today.
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So much for those word processing qualification thingees.
The source, please, Monty... My co-writer wants putting in his place, since he's still arguing with me about it after two plays produced, several drafts of each, and several hundred bad-tempered sulky corrections from me...
c'mon William - it's Monty - so it's Wikipaedia!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_stop

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:51 pm

thebish wrote:
William the White wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:When I learned to type it was two, but the world has changed. I am certainly a one space man now. For some, apparently, old habits die hard or perhaps they suffer from an excess of patriotism since I read;
There have been a number of conventions relating to the spacing after a full stop. Some examples are listed below:

* One word space (French Spacing). This is the current convention in countries that use the modern Latin alphabet for published and final written work, as well as digital (World Wide Web) media.[6][7]
* Two word spaces (English Spacing). The two-space convention stems from the use of the monospaced font on typewriters—the intent was to provide a clear break between sentences. This historical convention was carried on by tradition until its widespread replacement by the single space convention in published print and digital media today.
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So much for those word processing qualification thingees.
The source, please, Monty... My co-writer wants putting in his place, since he's still arguing with me about it after two plays produced, several drafts of each, and several hundred bad-tempered sulky corrections from me...
c'mon William - it's Monty - so it's Wikipaedia!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_stop
Ooooh! :whack: Okay, fair enough. :oops: But the Wiki article does link to respectable sources. Oh, and it is Wikipedia, you pedantic prelate! :lol:
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:16 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Ooooh! :whack: Okay, fair enough. :oops: But the Wiki article does link to respectable sources. Oh, and it is Wikipedia, you pedantic prelate! :lol:
no - it's not - regardless of what they think....

and - it's paedagogue, paederast, paediatric, paediatrician, paediatrist, paedobaptism, paedodontic, paedogeneses, paedological, paedomorphic, paedophile, paedotrophy

encyclopaedia, mediaeval, archaeology, and aeons.

(but NOT paedantic)

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:46 pm

thebish wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Ooooh! :whack: Okay, fair enough. :oops: But the Wiki article does link to respectable sources. Oh, and it is Wikipedia, you pedantic prelate! :lol:
no - it's not - regardless of what they think....

and - it's paedagogue, paederast, paediatric, paediatrician, paediatrist, paedobaptism, paedodontic, paedogeneses, paedological, paedomorphic, paedophile, paedotrophy

encyclopaedia, mediaeval, archaeology, and aeons.

(but NOT paedantic)
Certainly you may prefer the older, or British variant, spelling as opposed to the rather more modern (admittedly American) ones, just as you may prefer two spaces after a full stop. However, I would argue this might not apply to proper names such as Wikipedia. Do you still use spellings such as oeconomics, praemium, and aenigma? :wink: Perhaps not so we must move with the times....
BTW, the OED now gives both encyclopaedia and encyclopedia as equally acceptable.
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:23 pm

I don't care what is "acceptable" - 1001 wrong things are considered "acceptable" now - like handbags for men...

the "pedia" part of "Wikipedia" is supposed to reflect the end of the word "encyclopaedia"

and so - it is Wikipaedia.

case closed! :wink:

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Verbal » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:28 pm

thebish wrote:I don't care what is "acceptable" - 1001 wrong things are considered "acceptable" now - like handbags for men...

the "pedia" part of "Wikipedia" is supposed to reflect the end of the word "encyclopaedia"

and so - it is Wikipaedia.

case closed! :wink:
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:30 pm

noe - it's noet

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:30 pm

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:33 pm

thebish wrote:I don't care what is "acceptable" - 1001 wrong things are considered "acceptable" now - like handbags for men...

the "pedia" part of "Wikipedia" is supposed to reflect the end of the word "encyclopaedia"

and so - it is Wikipaedia.

case closed! :wink:
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 3:37 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
thebish wrote:I don't care what is "acceptable" - 1001 wrong things are considered "acceptable" now - like handbags for men...

the "pedia" part of "Wikipedia" is supposed to reflect the end of the word "encyclopaedia"

and so - it is Wikipaedia.

case closed! :wink:
I surrender - it's all Greek to me...
or, rather, Latin....

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:20 pm

thebish wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
thebish wrote:I don't care what is "acceptable" - 1001 wrong things are considered "acceptable" now - like handbags for men...

the "pedia" part of "Wikipedia" is supposed to reflect the end of the word "encyclopaedia"

and so - it is Wikipaedia.

case closed! :wink:
I surrender - it's all Greek to me...
or, rather, Latin....
Hmmm - I think you'll find the Romans pinched it (along with tons of other stuff) - in this case from the Greek diphthong (or digraph) alpha iota.
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:32 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
thebish wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
thebish wrote:I don't care what is "acceptable" - 1001 wrong things are considered "acceptable" now - like handbags for men...

the "pedia" part of "Wikipedia" is supposed to reflect the end of the word "encyclopaedia"

and so - it is Wikipaedia.

case closed! :wink:
I surrender - it's all Greek to me...
or, rather, Latin....
Hmmm - I think you'll find the Romans pinched it (along with tons of other stuff) - in this case from the Greek diphthong (or digraph) alpha iota.
I think you'll find I won't!

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Raven » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:33 pm

jaffka wrote:one after a comma and two after a full stop, thats on a word processor. Of course.
Thought this was correct.
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Re: One space or two...........

Post by seanworth » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:42 pm

One space. In fact until I read this thread I had never even heard of two spaces after a full stop.

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:57 pm

Webster's states: "Use two spaces after a period (full-stop) at the end of a sentence, a question mark or an explanation mark"

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:03 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Webster's states: "Use two spaces after a period (full-stop) at the end of a sentence, a question mark or an explanation mark"

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Re: One space or two...........

Post by thebish » Fri Feb 18, 2011 1:04 pm

there is no "correct" or not correct in this instance. The first (and over-riding/trumping) rule of writing or typing is surely readability.

the two-space habit is from typewriting - and fixed-width fonts.

with handwriting - do you leave one space or two? answer - neither - you leave whatever gap is appropriate and separates your sentences to make your prose readable.

with the staggering array of fonts out there for word-processors - some - not all - maybe not even many - but "some" - will be more readable with two spaces after a full-stop.

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