EDL Rally

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And in 3 months the Labour party will be blaming the Government

[thebish]

We were a few days off the banks going bust, they then had to get bailed out by our money, and are still giving themselves bonuses, for running a failing business. Gordy was CoE for a decade, and he had no idea what was on the horizon......decent job indeed

Church of England??? My giddy aunt not!! Gordy was from good presbyterian stock laddie!

[William the White]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np09fgMgpN4

A non-partisan video has been put up on youtube and you can see snippets of the speechmaking on there. You can also see quite clearly the UAF trying to get into the opposite enclosure early in the day, before the main body of EDL support arrive, and also the disgusting, and more frighteningly the unashamed racism of some of those standing on the EDL side.

The speeches of the UAF come across much more as sloganeering, whilst the EDL are clearly orchestrated to sound rational and measured. However, the interviews with the members of the public on the EDL side contradict that. Even the girl discussing censorship of comedy at the end comes across as not that well informed and having leapt to ill thought out conclusions, as there are plenty of things in comedy that the public's kneejerk mentality would deny you mentioning.

Just look at Frankie Boyle and the Queen's fanny, or Ross/Brand and the affair of the ex skinny 'Spanish' waiter. Both of those things were complained about and looked into, I'm not sure how a joke about Islam on the Beeb that some one complained about would be treated any different, and my memory of the various satire shows suggests it's not an area that someone like Boyle would see as 'out of bounds'.

Sorry to be so late on this... that vid really should be watched... 4 mins in we see the main EDL spokesman talk about our 'vibrant multi ethnic community' that the EDL supposedly welcomes... seconds later we see the skins, drunks, smackheads, tattoo-braggers and racists, some close to braindead, that actually are their grassroots, shouting about the f*ckin pakis... Here is the truth...

This is the EDL... Watch...

[as]

Erm, where they behaving any worse than 'your' mob?

[William the White]

Erm, where they behaving any worse than 'your' mob?

Have a watch - make your mind up... Anyway you'll be able to see how well they are contributing to the 'vibrant multi-ethnic community' their official spokesman refers to...

[Worthy4England]

Erm, where they behaving any worse than 'your' mob?

Have a watch - make your mind up... Anyway you'll be able to see how well they are contributing to the 'vibrant multi-ethnic community' their official spokesman refers to...

What could be more "vibrant" than openly discussing issues that affect both.

[Hoboh]

Erm, where they behaving any worse than 'your' mob?

Have a watch - make your mind up... Anyway you'll be able to see how well they are contributing to the 'vibrant multi-ethnic community' their official spokesman refers to...

There really is no place in this world for either bunch TBH, the laughable thing is both sides will claim to be men of principles!!
I don't doubt William but the "priciples" of some of his fellow demonstrators leave a lot to be desired.
In this tramps eyes the biggest problem is caused by social engineers who go way past the "no one should be persecuted for their colour or creed" I can understand people resenting those that do not contribute to sociaty but there are enough out there who claim this country as their own and contribute nowt!
The guiding rule should be "you put nowt in you get nowt out!" and this should apply to all citizens of whatever race colour or creed.
Hobo's world, tough but fair!

[William the White]

Erm, where they behaving any worse than 'your' mob?

Have a watch - make your mind up... Anyway you'll be able to see how well they are contributing to the 'vibrant multi-ethnic community' their official spokesman refers to...

There really is no place in this world for either bunch TBH, the laughable thing is both sides will claim to be men of principles!!
I don't doubt William but the "priciples" of some of his fellow demonstrators leave a lot to be desired.
In this tramps eyes the biggest problem is caused by social engineers who go way past the "no one should be persecuted for their colour or creed" I can understand people resenting those that do not contribute to sociaty but there are enough out there who claim this country as their own and contribute nowt!
The guiding rule should be "you put nowt in you get nowt out!" and this should apply to all citizens of whatever race colour or creed.
Hobo's world, tough but fair!

And nooses and heavy machine guns. And mushroom clouds over Afghanistan. And definitely, however bizarre this may seem, no camels...

Couldn't say fairer than that...

[as]

And in today's news, our newest local councillor is already stamping her mark.

Ms Qureshi was on the UAF front line at the protest against the EDL’s rally in Victoria Square on March 20 and is leading the new national campaign calling on police not to prosecute left-wing protesters.

So it's okay to start a riot if you're left-wing then?! What a pleb, she's already making me miss Ruth 'I'll take that massive golden handshake before being employed by one of the banks we bailed out' Kelly.

[bobo the clown]

And in today's news, our newest local councillor is already stamping her mark.

Ms Qureshi was on the UAF front line at the protest against the EDL’s rally in Victoria Square on March 20 and is leading the new national campaign calling on police not to prosecute left-wing protesters.

That sums a great deal up in one, vacuous, one-eyed campaign.

Many moons ago on here I referred to liberal (small 'l') fascism. Well, here it is. "We can do what the feck we like because we are 'good' people with 'good' intent ... & if you disagree then you are bad people, with bad intent & so we can do whatever we want".

Bllx.

[William the White]

Before leaping to judgment could as or anyone tell me/provide a link on what this is about?

[Lord Kangana]

And in today's news, our newest local councillor is already stamping her mark.

Ms Qureshi was on the UAF front line at the protest against the EDL’s rally in Victoria Square on March 20 and is leading the new national campaign calling on police not to prosecute left-wing protesters.

That sums a great deal up in one, vacuous, one-eyed campaign.

Many moons ago on here I referred to liberal (small 'l') fascism. Well, here it is. "We can do what the feck we like because we are 'good' people with 'good' intent ... & if you disagree then you are bad people, with bad intent & so we can do whatever we want".

Bllx.

On balance, thats bollox, and the kind of argument good ole Bernard would have used. Not allowed to be racist? Why its political correctness gone mad. Arse.

[bobo the clown]

And in today's news, our newest local councillor is already stamping her mark.

Ms Qureshi was on the UAF front line at the protest against the EDL’s rally in Victoria Square on March 20 and is leading the new national campaign calling on police not to prosecute left-wing protesters.

That sums a great deal up in one, vacuous, one-eyed campaign.

Many moons ago on here I referred to liberal (small 'l') fascism. Well, here it is. "We can do what the feck we like because we are 'good' people with 'good' intent ... & if you disagree then you are bad people, with bad intent & so we can do whatever we want".

Bllx.

On balance, thats bollox, and the kind of argument good ole Bernard would have used. Not allowed to be racist? Why its political correctness gone mad. Arse.

... and there we have it.

If someone disagrees with a left wing cause they wheel out an accusation which, if true, would be indefensible .... ie to dare to question the fascistic anti-fascists is racism.

Well, no it's not.

Can't be going around being hypocritical LK, now can we ??

[Lord Kangana]

I'd love to know what it is you're being stopped from doing....

Anyway, if someone's said it better, always quote them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IYx4Bc6 ... re=related

[William the White]

The EDL's latest wheeze to contribute to 'our vibrant multi-cultural society' (speech at the Bolton rally of the EDL) is to hold an anti-Islamic demonstration in Bradford.

they are calling this 'The Big One'. One third of the popultion of the city is moslem. The explosive potential of this is obvious. Horrifying, i think.

Interesting that one of the most consistent opponents of the far right/BNP/EDL is arguing against a counter-demonstration:

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/The-case- ... unter-demo

Makes sense to me.

[Worthy4England]

Indeed, what could be better than "no one watching" - no publicity because no one cares.

That said sir, it didn't seem to make sense to you when they were in Bolton.

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/The-case- ... unter-demo

Makes sense to me.

And to me.

As he as much as says, the EDL opposition always ends up looking (or at least being portrayed) as a bunch of Democracy Village not rights, when of course opposition to racism is a rather more mainstream position than that.

Just ignore them. I don't think we're at the 'all it takes is for good men to do nothing' stage... there are times and places where these arguments can be had and won, but during an EDL demonstration on the streets of Bradford is not one of them.

[TANGODANCER]

The EDL's latest wheeze to contribute to 'our vibrant multi-cultural society' (speech at the Bolton rally of the EDL) is to hold an anti-Islamic demonstration in Bradford.

they are calling this 'The Big One'. One third of the popultion of the city is moslem. The explosive potential of this is obvious. Horrifying, i think.

Interesting that one of the most consistent opponents of the far right/BNP/EDL is arguing against a counter-demonstration:

http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/The-case- ... unter-demo. Makes sense to me.

That's almost like holding a Straight parade in Manchesters Gay Village except it won't be handbags flying. Needs banning before it starts or it could be a real blood-bath.

[William the White]

Indeed, what could be better than "no one watching" - no publicity because no one cares.

That said sir, it didn't seem to make sense to you when they were in Bolton.

Different circumstances.

But, since we've been round the hills on that one twice or three times we know each other's arguments, don't agree with them, and could only hold them again and again.

Still worthy, this gives you the opportunity to hold an argument about whether the argument is worthwhile continuing, and I wouldn't want to deprive you of the pleasure...

[Worthy4England]

Indeed, what could be better than "no one watching" - no publicity because no one cares.

That said sir, it didn't seem to make sense to you when they were in Bolton.

Different circumstances.

But, since we've been round the hills on that one twice or three times we know each other's arguments, don't agree with them, and could only hold them again and again.

Still worthy, this gives you the opportunity to hold an argument about whether the argument is worthwhile continuing, and I wouldn't want to deprive you of the pleasure...

You're not suggesting I'm occasionally argumentative are you?