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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:28 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Seems like Freedman is saying the Palace owners did not do enough to keep him.

Oh dear.

And the Palace owners account of the events are beginning to unravel. Saying that they agreed compensation on Sunday but then seemingly denying permission to us on the Monday.

I smell a pair of owners telling a few porkies to the Palace fans.

Feel sorry for their fans in all this really.
If you are referring to the anonymous blog, sorry, it was probably written by DF's cat. More holes than swiss cheese.

I understand you are looking for sound reasons why he left, but we are struggling to find them. Anyways, the mob want Sir Steve back (for the 100th time!), but I believe it is a step back looking to the past. That said, even though I believe it wrong on many levels, it's stupid enough for us to do, and that's why we will do it. Never a dull moment and I love it. :crazy: :mrgreen:

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by CrazyHorse » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:39 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:Delighted at the news Freedman has been made manager i think he will take the club further than BSA.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:40 pm

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BWFC_Insane wrote:Seems like Freedman is saying the Palace owners did not do enough to keep him.

Oh dear.

And the Palace owners account of the events are beginning to unravel. Saying that they agreed compensation on Sunday but then seemingly denying permission to us on the Monday.

I smell a pair of owners telling a few porkies to the Palace fans.

Feel sorry for their fans in all this really.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:49 pm

Hmmm, is that it. Doesn't say much eh? Looking forward to a good laugh when I read the Adder tomorrow.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:52 pm

Eagle in peace wrote:Hmmm, is that it. Doesn't say much eh? Looking forward to a good laugh when I read the Adder tomorrow.
I'm presuming there is more in the full thing tomorrow.....

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Tim The Eagle » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:02 pm

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CPFC4EVA wrote:Well, he ain't that good! Our current squad however, is good!
Who assembled that squad?
under the guidance of Lennie Lawrence
That is the bit that worrys me, I think that it won't be long before the backroom staff follow, I would have thought that our new manager coming in will want his own people anyway, but my preference would be for us to keep who we have and then we can afford to test out a young manager with good guidance.

I think that Bolton fans have to be aware that if he has any success with you, and something else comes up he will be off.....loyalty is obiously not his strong point.

I thought that our owners must have done something wrong in dealing with him, I know one of the marketing staff although not on the playing side of the staff they all know the ins and outs, they feel it was driven by money.

This is a well written article written from a Palace perspective,http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... n-football I know most of you won't be that interested in our perspective right now but you might be in the future if he does have success.

I do hope that it works out for you guy's, but really want our new man to woop his arse when we next meet naturally...

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:10 pm

If he has enough success to attract a better job so be it...we'll be in a better position.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by ChrisC » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:12 pm

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Am I right in thinking you had a shite start to the season? Then Freedman was eventually allowed to bring in some players and your season turned around and you went on your good run?
Yes, lost the first 3. We then secured some players by offloading Ambrose, Scannel etc. There is sufficient rumour, and I mean rumour, that DF was told to change the manner in which the team played following the Bristol C loss. The owners say they have not interfered though... All we know is we have dramatically changed the manner in which we play, and that is odd, given what went before.

So this so called team that had nothing to do with DF and was already there wasn't doing the trick until DF brough in some players of his choosing and things improved. Yet lots of palace fans are claiming its the team that is making DF look better than he is.

Sounds to me like DF had a lot to do with your good run and he had to fight to get the players he wanted. Maybe if the palace board had backed him earlier or last season this magic run might have happened sooner.

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:23 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Seems like Freedman is saying the Palace owners did not do enough to keep him.

Oh dear.

And the Palace owners account of the events are beginning to unravel. Saying that they agreed compensation on Sunday but then seemingly denying permission to us on the Monday.

I smell a pair of owners telling a few porkies to the Palace fans.

Feel sorry for their fans in all this really.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Tim The Eagle » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:27 pm

So this so called team that had nothing to do with DF and was already there wasn't doing the trick until DF brough in some players of his choosing and things improved. Yet lots of palace fans are claiming its the team that is making DF look better than he is.
DF Bought in Jedinak Great buy, But it was Tony Popovic who reccomended him Australian connection, he bought in three other really good players that have recently bedded in really well.

I think he can build a team But is that what you need?

Most Palace fans will tell you our squad was down to two players on the bench at the end of administration, with a squad of 18 you see how well any team can do, George Burley bought in a few players which did okay, But the core of the team of youth is palace pre administration and would have included the likes of players like Victor Moses
etc if we were not in administration.

I do not really know any thing about your squad, but it can't be any where as bad as ours while we were in administration, so let's hope that he can make good choices, and motivate you guys into winning and getting to where you guys want to be.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:30 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:Delighted at the news Freedman has been made manager i think he will take the club further than BSA.
Do you actually remember Sam Allardyce, Dan? I mean is it in the same way you remember Bill Ridding?
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Eagle in peace » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:37 pm

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Am I right in thinking you had a shite start to the season? Then Freedman was eventually allowed to bring in some players and your season turned around and you went on your good run?
Yes, lost the first 3. We then secured some players by offloading Ambrose, Scannel etc. There is sufficient rumour, and I mean rumour, that DF was told to change the manner in which the team played following the Bristol C loss. The owners say they have not interfered though... All we know is we have dramatically changed the manner in which we play, and that is odd, given what went before.

So this so called team that had nothing to do with DF and was already there wasn't doing the trick until DF brough in some players of his choosing and things improved. Yet lots of palace fans are claiming its the team that is making DF look better than he is.

Sounds to me like DF had a lot to do with your good run and he had to fight to get the players he wanted. Maybe if the palace board had backed him earlier or last season this magic run might have happened sooner.
I never said this team was nothing to do with him. Clearly, he purchased the players he purchased, and he made some astute signings and also some pretty average stuff too. Like many managers I guess. The key change in our results coincided entirely with a change in style. If DF leans towards his base style, of keeping tight and defend any lead, you are in for some turgid affairs. If he chooses the latter style of 8 games, you'll have fun.

I recall your forum dismissing our team when we won a few weeks back, so there is inconsistency coming through in some of your fans posts now. Essentially, you guys will want to believe in him, and that's only right. We did.

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:44 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:Delighted at the news Freedman has been made manager i think he will take the club further than BSA.

:lol:

You crack me up Dan

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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:03 pm

bwfcdan94 wrote:Delighted at the news Freedman has been made manager i think he will take the club further than BSA.
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by ChrisC » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:12 pm

Eagle in peace wrote:
ChrisC wrote:
Eagle in peace wrote:
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Am I right in thinking you had a shite start to the season? Then Freedman was eventually allowed to bring in some players and your season turned around and you went on your good run?
Yes, lost the first 3. We then secured some players by offloading Ambrose, Scannel etc. There is sufficient rumour, and I mean rumour, that DF was told to change the manner in which the team played following the Bristol C loss. The owners say they have not interfered though... All we know is we have dramatically changed the manner in which we play, and that is odd, given what went before.

So this so called team that had nothing to do with DF and was already there wasn't doing the trick until DF brough in some players of his choosing and things improved. Yet lots of palace fans are claiming its the team that is making DF look better than he is.

Sounds to me like DF had a lot to do with your good run and he had to fight to get the players he wanted. Maybe if the palace board had backed him earlier or last season this magic run might have happened sooner.
I never said this team was nothing to do with him. Clearly, he purchased the players he purchased, and he made some astute signings and also some pretty average stuff too. Like many managers I guess. The key change in our results coincided entirely with a change in style. If DF leans towards his base style, of keeping tight and defend any lead, you are in for some turgid affairs. If he chooses the latter style of 8 games, you'll have fun.

I recall your forum dismissing our team when we won a few weeks back, so there is inconsistency coming through in some of your fans posts now. Essentially, you guys will want to believe in him, and that's only right. We did.

I'm not commenting one way or another. I am just dealing in the facts regarding your recent good form. A lot of Bolton fans have commented on how they are worried because alot of Palace fans are saying DF has been made to look better than he is by the team and that it manages itself. Seems very short sighted when you couldn't buy a win early doors and then DF turned things around with his own signings and got things to work. He can't be half as bad as most Palace fans have made out if he can go from almost getting the sack to turning things round big time.

Look at Coyle for example when he was under pressure. He had all pre season to sort us out even got money from the board and still couldn't turn things around. This simple reason for this was because he is a shite clueless manager along with his staff. Shite managers get found out eventually because when the shit hits the fan they have no plan B. DF isn't the finished manager by a long way but he has shown he has a plan B and can identify problems in a team and find the right players to fix things.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:49 pm

Had forgotten about the 5hitty way Steve 'Mrs Doubtfire' Bruce left Palace. For them this must be like Super John becoming manager for us then leaving to take over at say Charlton.

A lot of folk on here were suggesting if Gartside were to get this appointment wrong he'd be in danger of losing his job pretty quickly. I assume he has seen or knows something about Dougie that we dont/haven't? He surely to God hasn't gambled his gravy train on an 8 match unbeaten run has he? :shock:
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:54 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Had forgotten about the 5hitty way Steve 'Mrs Doubtfire' Bruce left Palace. For them this must be like Super John becoming manager for us then leaving to take over at say Charlton.

A lot of folk on here were suggesting if Gartside were to get this appointment wrong he'd be in danger of losing his job pretty quickly. I assume he has seen or knows something about Dougie that we dont/haven't? He surely to God hasn't gambled his gravy train on an 8 match unbeaten run has he? :shock:
When you look at the attributes Freedman supposedly has, it makes a lot of sense. Time will tell. Let's not judge it too early..........

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Harry Genshaw wrote:Had forgotten about the 5hitty way Steve 'Mrs Doubtfire' Bruce left Palace. For them this must be like Super John becoming manager for us then leaving to take over at say Charlton.

A lot of folk on here were suggesting if Gartside were to get this appointment wrong he'd be in danger of losing his job pretty quickly. I assume he has seen or knows something about Dougie that we dont/haven't? He surely to God hasn't gambled his gravy train on an 8 match unbeaten run has he? :shock:
When you look at the attributes Freedman supposedly has, it makes a lot of sense. Time will tell. Let's not judge it too early..........
Oh aye, am not judging him. As someone said a while back - I expect DF to be a success..based on absolutely nothing, but there's something just seems right to me. That said, reading some of the Palace fans on here (who have showed a lot of class with their reasoned responses by the way) there is a suggestion that Dougie was floundering a bit until he hit on this recent unbeaten run - then Phil came knocking..
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:59 pm

I remember Notts County fans saying Allardyce were a bit shit too.

Palace fans may well be right. We will see.....

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