Liverpool laughing stocks?

[Bruce Rioja]

Could you be a bit more positive and suggest a Perth alternative then?

I think this rascal should do it

[Annoyed Grunt]

Lucas ruled out for the rest of the season......quite a blow for them.

[bobo the clown]

Lucas ruled out for the rest of the season......quite a blow for them.

Yes, big shame that is.

I'm glad we haven't lost any major players to injury.

[Annoyed Grunt]

Lucas ruled out for the rest of the season......quite a blow for them.

Yes, big shame that is.

I'm glad we haven't lost any major players to injury.

Thank the lord.

[Annoyed Grunt]

8 game ban and £40k fine for Suarez.

[Lord Kangana]

Good.

I'm sick of their sort coming over here taking our football jobs.

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[bobo the clown]

There'll be flowers left in piles all over Liverpool.

I have no idea whetehr Suarez is racist, but I know he's a diving, cheating cnut and deserves a season ban let alone 8 games.

I bet Evra's 'injured' next time he's due at Anfield though.

[CrazyHorse]

There's a bad smell about all of this.
BUT, if he's still found guilty after all the toing and froing and the appeals and legal wrangling and shit, then surely Liverpool have no choice but to also issue their own punishment to him of an additional couple of match bans and additional fine. Cos if they don't punish him themselves then surely they're condoning his racist behaviour?

[The Axman]

There's a bad smell about all of this.
BUT, if he's still found guilty after all the toing and froing and the appeals and legal wrangling and shit, then surely Liverpool have no choice but to also issue their own punishment to him of an additional couple of match bans and additional fine. Cos if they don't punish him themselves then surely they're condoning his racist behaviour?

They can't punish him. He's whiter than the driven snow. (oops).

[Annoyed Grunt]

There's a bad smell about all of this.
BUT, if he's still found guilty after all the toing and froing and the appeals and legal wrangling and shit, then surely Liverpool have no choice but to also issue their own punishment to him of an additional couple of match bans and additional fine. Cos if they don't punish him themselves then surely they're condoning his racist behaviour?

Will be interesting to see what happens with John Terry.

[boltonboris]

The John Terry situation is different. It's first and foremost, a police enquiry. If the police find him not guilty, then there's nowt the FA can do. If he IS found guilty though, they should...SHOULD... throw the book at him

[The Axman]

The John Terry situation is different. It's first and foremost, a police enquiry. If the police find him not guilty, then there's nowt the FA can do. If he IS found guilty though, they should...SHOULD... throw the book at him

The police believe him to be guilty. It's now up to the CPS to prosecute. But the FA don't need the same amount of evidence as the police do to act, so it's a bit of a mystery why the FA isn't charging a stalwart of the England line-up when they've charged a stalwart of the Uruguayan team (beats me).

[Annoyed Grunt]

The John Terry situation is different. It's first and foremost, a police enquiry. If the police find him not guilty, then there's nowt the FA can do. If he IS found guilty though, they should...SHOULD... throw the book at him

Didn't know that bit.

[bobo the clown]

The John Terry situation is different. It's first and foremost, a police enquiry. If the police find him not guilty, then there's nowt the FA can do. If he IS found guilty though, they should...SHOULD... throw the book at him

Didn't know that bit.

It's not actually correct.

Though the effect may be the same the two bodies are quite different and there is no need for one to take the same steps, or come to the same conclusion as the other.

Very similar to employment law in that the proof, the 'guilt' and the judgements take different routes.

[Annoyed Grunt]

The John Terry situation is different. It's first and foremost, a police enquiry. If the police find him not guilty, then there's nowt the FA can do. If he IS found guilty though, they should...SHOULD... throw the book at him

Didn't know that bit.

It's not actually correct.

Though the effect may be the same the two bodies are quite different and there is no need for one to take the same steps, or come to the same conclusion as the other.

Very similar to employment law in that the proof, the 'guilt' and the judgements take different routes.

So, both police and FA can / should do him?

[bobo the clown]

The John Terry situation is different. It's first and foremost, a police enquiry. If the police find him not guilty, then there's nowt the FA can do. If he IS found guilty though, they should...SHOULD... throw the book at him

Didn't know that bit.

It's not actually correct.

Though the effect may be the same the two bodies are quite different and there is no need for one to take the same steps, or come to the same conclusion as the other.

Very similar to employment law in that the proof, the 'guilt' and the judgements take different routes.

So, both police and FA can / should do him?

Well, whilst it's understandable that one stands back (the football authorities) if the other (the Fuzz) gets involved it's actually unnecessary and can, in fact, mean action which should be taken may not be.
The Rozzers may decide that their standards of proof, for a prosecution .... or the CPS after them, is not quite there. There may be some technicality ... and for them to act it has to be a break in the law.

The football authorities may still feel that their regulations have been broken & plough on regardless.

Certainly if the football authority doesn't come in and the Scuffers do & then drop it (or the Court case is found 'not guilty') it's very hard for the footy to then come in & charge after that even if it's quite appropriate.


This is EXACTLY the same in an employment situation where a person is charged by the Police with something & the employer decides to sit back before they charge them with a working offence.

That's a massive mistake (& delays things way longer than tolerable). The rules, the proof required, the outcome and the processes are all quite separate & ought to be treated as such.

[Lord Kangana]

There'll be flowers left in piles all over Liverpool.

I have no idea whetehr Suarez is racist, but I know he's a diving, cheating cnut and deserves a season ban let alone 8 games.

I bet Evra's 'injured' next time he's due at Anfield though.

If you read the Liverpool forums, dozens of posts start with "everyone knows Luis isn't a racist...".

How? How the f*ck do they know?

It'd be better for everyone concerned if we didn't have to hear the immediate defence of "I'm sure X isn't X" from every 2-bit pundit every time something happens. Because, actually, they have no idea either.

Not that it winds me up or anything.

[Verbal]

Hansen saying racism isn't a problem "because of the success of coloured players in the prem" (not verbatim, but roughly what was said)

expecting an eight-programme ban and a candlelit vigit outside Anfield in half hour.

[Prufrock]

Stories about Liverpool 'sources' complaining about the length of the ban?!

If you think he is innocent, fair enough, but 8 games doesn't seem particularly harsh when Davey W gets 4 for being dim!