EURO 2008

[Tombwfc]

Their keeper bundled into him and a Dutch player, they both ended up off the pitch.

Still offside though surely? He was OFF the pitch, regardless of why, he can't be playing anyone onside if he's on his arse behind the line can he?

Rule 11.11 (The Guardian looked it up, not me):

"A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position," he says. "Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position."

Surely otherwise you'd just have keepers stepping off the field to play people offside?

[FD]

Fair enough then!

Though there's a difference between being bundled off the field and being on your arse, and just walking off the field pointing and laughing.

But yeah, it makes sense I guess.

So unlike we all thought, it wasn't a terrible decision by a shite linesman but in fact a SUPERB decision by the best linesman in the lands? Or he got lucky

[Worthy4England]

Fair enough then!

Though there's a difference between being bundled off the field and being on your arse, and just walking off the field pointing and laughing.

But yeah, it makes sense I guess.

I guess the point is, if he'd have been just on the field and sat on his ass, he would have certainly played the man onside...

[Tombwfc]

And, being as he wasn't given permission to be off the field, he could've ran back on at any time and blocked a shot off the line.

[Worthy4England]

And, being as he wasn't given permission to be off the field, he could've ran back on at any time and blocked a shot off the line.

Correct. Maybe the ref should've booked him for leaving the field of play without permission just to rub it in. The post match interview with Kuyt, the guy just said "you realise the first goal was offside" blah blah, Kuyt just said yes but the ref gave it anyhow so what can we do, type of thing...

[SuperWhiteWarrior]

I enjoyed tonights game, it was a good match.

[mikegarbz6]

Do you think there is any potential signings at the euro 2008? i fort a few of those Romanian players looked quite good. What do you think to that Barnetta at Switzerland?

[Hoboh]

Do you think there is any potential signings at the euro 2008? i fort a few of those Romanian players looked quite good. What do you think to that Barnetta at Switzerland?

Bit wary of swiss rolls look what happened to our last signing!!

[BWFC_Insane]

That was a brilliant game of football.

I love watching the Dutch play when they are on song and all guns blazing. We could learn so much if only we wanted to....

Same goes for the Germans.

[Lord Kangana]

That was a brilliant game of football.

I love watching the Dutch play when they are on song and all guns blazing. We could learn so much if only we wanted to....

Same goes for the Germans.

Aye, Deutschlands a given. The Netherlands just make me embarassed about the way English football is run.

[Hoboh]

That was a brilliant game of football.

I love watching the Dutch play when they are on song and all guns blazing. We could learn so much if only we wanted to....

Same goes for the Germans.

Aye, Deutschlands a given. The Netherlands just make me embarassed about the way English football is run.

Yep the same said country who's league is so crappy when a striker scores 50 goals in a season we should not bat an eyelid never mind bid for him!!!

[Lord Kangana]

That was a brilliant game of football.

I love watching the Dutch play when they are on song and all guns blazing. We could learn so much if only we wanted to....

Same goes for the Germans.

Aye, Deutschlands a given. The Netherlands just make me embarassed about the way English football is run.

Yep the same said country who's league is so crappy when a striker scores 50 goals in a season we should not bat an eyelid never mind bid for him!!!

That would be the same players who consistently play all over Europe at the biggest clubs, who play for a country about 1/6th that of England, yet have a far better record than we do?

Those the ones you're thinking of?

[TANGODANCER]

That was a brilliant game of football.

I love watching the Dutch play when they are on song and all guns blazing. We could learn so much if only we wanted to....

Same goes for the Germans.

Aye, Deutschlands a given. The Netherlands just make me embarassed about the way English football is run.

Yep the same said country who's league is so crappy when a striker scores 50 goals in a season we should not bat an eyelid never mind bid for him!!!

That would be the same players who consistently play all over Europe at the biggest clubs, who play for a country about 1/6th that of England, yet have a far better record than we do?

Those the ones you're thinking of?

The one who had those time-wasters, Van Basten, Cruyff, Begkamp, Kluivert, Gullit etc etc? That the one?

[claus jensens guitar]

Rule 11.11 (The Guardian looked it up, not me):

"A defender who leaves the field during the course of play and does not immediately return must still be considered in determining where the second to last defender is for the purpose of judging which attackers are in an offside position," he says. "Such a defender is considered to be on the touch line or goal line closest to his or her off-field position. A defender who leaves the field with the referee's permission (and who thus requires the referee's permission to return) is not included in determining offside position."

Surely otherwise you'd just have keepers stepping off the field to play people offside?

Common sense should apply.

What exactly are the other Italian defenders expected to do in this situation ? Or say a defending player tried to slide tackle an opponent but missed and ended up hitting the advertising boards and the game continued...

If Panucci is classed as playing RVN onside then the other 3 defenders would have to drop back to the goal line because they cannot play RVN offside in this situation.
The only exception for offside would be if Buffon came out of the goal and stood beyond RVN making him offside. However, this would expose the goal and leave it unprotected from a shot.

[H. Pedersen]

Common sense should apply.

What exactly are the other Italian defenders expected to do in this situation ?

Do a better job marking Van Nistelrooy?

You know that as soon as Panucci went down the linesman was praying for something like this to happen so he could get himself in the papers for making the RIGHT decision.

[TANGODANCER]

Common sense should apply.

What exactly are the other Italian defenders expected to do in this situation ?

Do a better job marking Van Nistelrooy?

You know that as soon as Panucci went down the linesman was praying for something like this to happen so he could get himself in the papers for making the RIGHT decision.

?

[Montreal Wanderer]

Common sense should apply.

What exactly are the other Italian defenders expected to do in this situation ?

Do a better job marking Van Nistelrooy?

You know that as soon as Panucci went down the linesman was praying for something like this to happen so he could get himself in the papers for making the RIGHT decision.

?

Makes sense to me, Tango. Officials are usually in the public eye for making dubious calls - surely they would welcome an opportunity to make a highly controversial call and be shown to be correct.

[TANGODANCER]

Common sense should apply.

What exactly are the other Italian defenders expected to do in this situation ?

Do a better job marking Van Nistelrooy?

You know that as soon as Panucci went down the linesman was praying for something like this to happen so he could get himself in the papers for making the RIGHT decision.

?

Makes sense to me, Tango. Officials are usually in the public eye for making dubious calls - surely they would welcome an opportunity to make a highly controversial call and be shown to be correct.

Linesmen think that quick? was my point Monty.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Common sense should apply.

What exactly are the other Italian defenders expected to do in this situation ?

Do a better job marking Van Nistelrooy?

You know that as soon as Panucci went down the linesman was praying for something like this to happen so he could get himself in the papers for making the RIGHT decision.

?

Makes sense to me, Tango. Officials are usually in the public eye for making dubious calls - surely they would welcome an opportunity to make a highly controversial call and be shown to be correct.

Linesmen think that quick? was my point Monty.

Ah, sorry. Your interjection was a trifle abbreviated for me to fully comprehend.

[bobby5]

The director loves the overhead camera