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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Dr Hotdog » Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:01 pm

knobpolisher wrote:Thought we might have seen a comment from Mr Allardyce.
"We may not have seen eye to eye, but our journey was magical."

...make of that what you will.

RIP Phil. Once a white forever a white. He oversaw a period of our history that will never be forgotten. Very sad news.

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Tombwfc » Thu Feb 11, 2016 5:38 pm

I saw that and thought it was a little bit arsey considering the man's dead, but the full quotes do him more justice.
Big Sam said, Sky Sports wrote:"It was obviously devastating news for them and me. I was aware of the illness but kept that close to myself and obviously my condolences go out to the family," said Allardyce.

"My memories are great, even though later on we may not have seen eye-to-eye.

"The journey we took from 1999 to 2007 was magical and we took that journey together.

"We basically rebuilt a football club that achieved great success and those are the memories I have of Phil.
Anyway, respect always to Gartside for what he did here. I hope he was able to raise a smile at Kaiyne's winner on Saturday, and leave knowing that the club will be alright in the end. For all his faults, here's hoping our next chairman loves the club as much as he did.

On another note, I did find it somewhat amusing that even Marc Iles stories on Gartside's death now prominently feature quotes from Dean Holdsworth, while Owen Coyle himself appears to have written the last two paragraphs of Alan Nixon's tribute. Some things never change.

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by LeverEnd » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:14 pm

Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by bw@bw » Thu Feb 11, 2016 6:28 pm

LeverEnd wrote:Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
If you have read his book, you would see that anything else would be hypocritical.

He felt that PG was half-hearted in BWFC going for the very top.
Ironically, given what has happened since, PG felt we could not afford to compete at the very top and it would be too risky

So after 2007 they were not on good terms.
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:17 pm

bw@bw wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
If you have read his book, you would see that anything else would be hypocritical.

He felt that PG was half-hearted in BWFC going for the very top.
Ironically, given what has happened since, PG felt we could not afford to compete at the very top and it would be too risky

So after 2007 they were not on good terms.
Not really the right place for this but that isn't true.

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by LeverEnd » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:18 pm

bw@bw wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
If you have read his book, you would see that anything else would be hypocritical.

He felt that PG was half-hearted in BWFC going for the very top.
Ironically, given what has happened since, PG felt we could not afford to compete at the very top and it would be too risky

So after 2007 they were not on good terms.
I've not, but I'm aware of the fall out. No false sentimentality, just a respectful acknowledgement of a sad event, I think he got it spot on.
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:37 pm

I'd like to think the club and town will do him the same for Garty as they did for Nat!
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Prufrock » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:18 pm

I should fecking hope not: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 366920.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by bw@bw » Thu Feb 11, 2016 8:21 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
bw@bw wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
If you have read his book, you would see that anything else would be hypocritical.

He felt that PG was half-hearted in BWFC going for the very top.
Ironically, given what has happened since, PG felt we could not afford to compete at the very top and it would be too risky

So after 2007 they were not on good terms.
Not really the right place for this but that isn't true.
not my opinion - that was in the Big Sam book.
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:04 pm

bw@bw wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
bw@bw wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
If you have read his book, you would see that anything else would be hypocritical.

He felt that PG was half-hearted in BWFC going for the very top.
Ironically, given what has happened since, PG felt we could not afford to compete at the very top and it would be too risky

So after 2007 they were not on good terms.
Not really the right place for this but that isn't true.
not my opinion - that was in the Big Sam book.
Ah, but BWFC-I knows more about what went on between BSA and Garty than BSA does. FACT - coz Nixon told him.
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Gary the Enfield » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:25 am

Please let's not have this turn into something unsavoury.

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Feb 12, 2016 10:13 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
bw@bw wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
bw@bw wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:Reasonable and genuine from Big Sam that.
If you have read his book, you would see that anything else would be hypocritical.

He felt that PG was half-hearted in BWFC going for the very top.
Ironically, given what has happened since, PG felt we could not afford to compete at the very top and it would be too risky

So after 2007 they were not on good terms.
Not really the right place for this but that isn't true.
not my opinion - that was in the Big Sam book.
Ah, but BWFC-I knows more about what went on between BSA and Garty than BSA does. FACT - coz Nixon told him.
Phil Gartside told me.

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by NiceHotCuppaTea » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:23 am

For anyone who didn't see it yesterday:


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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Feb 12, 2016 12:43 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Phil Gartside told me.
:lol:
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:54 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Phil Gartside told me.
:lol:
Don't see why that is funny. Around the time Sam left I sent PG an email expressing some concern about things going on at the club. He replied and asked if he could ring me. We had a chat for about an hour discussing things that were happening and reasons Allardyce left.

It said a lot that a football chairman was prepared to take up his time doing that but it showed how much he cared for the club and the fans.

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by officer_dibble » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:19 pm

Probably not the right thread for an argument gents?

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:15 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Probably not the right thread for an argument gents?
Agreed, I am definitely not looking for one!

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by Nicko58 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 8:17 pm

Since the news of his death was released I've been taken aback by how well-respected he seemed to be by English football as a whole, most notably by the ex-players.

We went through one of the greatest periods in our history under his stewardship and for that I will always be grateful.
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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Feb 13, 2016 10:02 am

Hard to read this without some dust flying into the eyes....

http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1427 ... ery_happy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Phil Gartside

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:21 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:Hard to read this without some dust flying into the eyes....

http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1427 ... ery_happy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Indeed. The dust flew all the way to N Wales as well.

There re numerous tales of his approachability and decency. It's fair to say that when things got very difficult he retreated, which was a shame as he had a lot of good to tell. Let's remember such a good guy. The are few & far between.
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