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[Enoch]

I couldn't help noticing the club website seems to be dissolving into a puddle too.

First off today's game had disappeared off the fixture list, now all the remaining games have gone too.

Does this mean we've given in?

[Harry Genshaw]

Does this constitute our worst start in history yet?

A selection of worsts we might yet achieve (current season score in brackets):

Fewest home wins in a season: 4, 2011–12. (4)
Fewest away wins in a season: 0, 1949–50, 1979–80. (0)
Fewest wins in a season: 5, 1979–80. (4)
Most home draws in a season: 11, 1979–80. (10)
Most home goals conceded in a season: 39, 2011–12. (22)
Most away losses in a season: 18, 1984–85. (14)
Most away goals conceded in a season: 59, 1932–33. (39)
Most draws in a season: 17, 1991–92. (14)
Most losses in a season: 25, 1970–71, 1995–96. (19)
Most goals conceded in a season: 92, 1932–33. (62)

There's only 2 seasons in there that were before my time. God, I've seen a lot of shite over the years

[LeverEnd]

Does this constitute our worst start in history yet?

A selection of worsts we might yet achieve (current season score in brackets):

Fewest home wins in a season: 4, 2011–12. (4)
Fewest away wins in a season: 0, 1949–50, 1979–80. (0)
Fewest wins in a season: 5, 1979–80. (4)
Most home draws in a season: 11, 1979–80. (10)
Most home goals conceded in a season: 39, 2011–12. (22)
Most away losses in a season: 18, 1984–85. (14)
Most away goals conceded in a season: 59, 1932–33. (39)
Most draws in a season: 17, 1991–92. (14)
Most losses in a season: 25, 1970–71, 1995–96. (19)
Most goals conceded in a season: 92, 1932–33. (62)

There's only 2 seasons in there that were before my time. God, I've seen a lot of shite over the years

Owd barstard

[Harry Genshaw]

^

Actually realised there was another season in there that I just about missed but many on here will undoubtedly remember. The 70-71 season. Worrying that we still haven't won as many as the 79-80 relegated side. That side was the most doomed and hopeless I remember. This lot are damn close!

[Worthy4England]

^^ I'd swap right now, this squad for that one.

Mcdonagh
Allardyce
Paul Jones
Nicholson
Walsh
Reid
Taddy
Cantello
Greaves
Gowling
Whatmore


They'd piss this lot.

[bobo the clown]

^^ I'd swap right now, this squad for that one.

Mcdonagh
Allardyce
Paul Jones
Nicholson
Walsh
Reid
Taddy
Cantello
Greaves
Gowling
Whatmore


They'd piss this lot.

That was a division higher in which they were failing.

... & still playing centre halves at right back and a central midfielder on the wing.

[BWFC_Insane]

So Iles claims sports shield only found out about the Spearing payment clause after taking over last week. That's a pretty big cock up, but I suppose par for the course with how we were being run.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

So Iles claims sports shield only found out about the Spearing payment clause after taking over last week. That's a pretty big cock up, but I suppose par for the course with how we were being run.

Did they know (or ask about) all possible future transfer fees and contract clauses? I'd guess that's part of due diligence. What must the honorary president think?

[BWFC_Insane]

So Iles claims sports shield only found out about the Spearing payment clause after taking over last week. That's a pretty big cock up, but I suppose par for the course with how we were being run.

Did they know (or ask about) all possible future transfer fees and contract clauses? I'd guess that's part of due diligence. What must the honorary president think?

From what I have heard the club had basically no grasp at all on outgoings and were surviving day to day for the past few months.

So I'm not surprised it was overlooked.

Worryingly it doesn't look like sports shield have the money to pay it, though that is hardly surprising. And if they did I'd be telling em not to bother.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I would expect that due diligence includes checking all financial contracts. And that surely includes player contracts, the main reason we're in shit.

I agree that it's not worth paying £100,000 (if that's the fee) for Spearing to play what are essentially dead rubbers. Might as well offer him for loan, someone might need him and pay a slice of his wages. Give someone else a chance in the team, because I expect Spearing will be off in summer if we can find any kind of taker.

[Worthy4England]

So Iles claims sports shield only found out about the Spearing payment clause after taking over last week. That's a pretty big cock up, but I suppose par for the course with how we were being run.

Did they know (or ask about) all possible future transfer fees and contract clauses? I'd guess that's part of due diligence. What must the honorary president think?

You would expect future outgoings to be part of DD, aye.

[bobo the clown]

I would expect that due diligence includes checking all financial contracts. And that surely includes player contracts, the main reason we're in shit.

I agree that it's not worth paying £100,000 (if that's the fee) for Spearing to play what are essentially dead rubbers. Might as well offer him for loan, someone might need him and pay a slice of his wages. Give someone else a chance in the team, because I expect Spearing will be off in summer if we can find any kind of taker.

It would be an available item ... but you have to ask & there's no obligation on the seller to inform if not asked.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Marc Iles has mentioned the £100,000 this morning:

Meanwhile, it is understood Wanderers have made another request to Liverpool to defer the £100,000 payment owed on Jay Spearing until the summer.

The midfielder could be sent out on loan for the remainder of the campaign, with the payment triggered after his next league game for Bolton.

Is the payment triggered after his next match whenever it is? Or if we don't pick him before summer, does it "reset" until he plays his 23rd League One game next season?

[BWFC_Insane]

Marc Iles has mentioned the £100,000 this morning:

Meanwhile, it is understood Wanderers have made another request to Liverpool to defer the £100,000 payment owed on Jay Spearing until the summer.

The midfielder could be sent out on loan for the remainder of the campaign, with the payment triggered after his next league game for Bolton.

Is the payment triggered after his next match whenever it is? Or if we don't pick him before summer, does it "reset" until he plays his 23rd League One game next season?

Think it resets next season. Think basically it is triggered if he appears in half or more of the games in any season.

Mind, it will be a disaster if Spearing is still here next season. Not because of him or his ability, but simply because of affordability.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Didn't get he get loaned to Blackburn after planing 20 or so matches last season? Suspect its on the 23rd league match and then reset each season. So any last 10 minute sub appearances start to look potentially expensive.

[BWFC_Insane]

Didn't get he get loaned to Blackburn after planing 20 or so matches last season? Suspect its on the 23rd league match and then reset each season. So any last 10 minute sub appearances start to look potentially expensive.

Yep looks that way. Seems like in the rush nobody told sports shield about it.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Yeah, sounds right. He's started 18 league games this season and come on 4 times: half-time at Hull, on 64 minutes at QPR, in the 86th minute at home to Brighton and in the 86th minute at home to MK Dons.

Last season he went to Blackburn on 21 appearances (15 starts). The season before – his first after we bought him – he *started* 45 league games and was only even subbed off once.

[Worthy4England]

Didn't get he get loaned to Blackburn after planing 20 or so matches last season? Suspect its on the 23rd league match and then reset each season. So any last 10 minute sub appearances start to look potentially expensive.

Yep looks that way. Seems like in the rush nobody told sports shield about it.

That's not how it works. There'll be a million and one questions during DD. It's up to SS to ask them.

[jonnycooper]

Didn't get he get loaned to Blackburn after planing 20 or so matches last season? Suspect its on the 23rd league match and then reset each season. So any last 10 minute sub appearances start to look potentially expensive.

Yep looks that way. Seems like in the rush nobody told sports shield about it.

That's not how it works. There'll be a million and one questions during DD. It's up to SS to ask them.

Can they not get around some of these things? Does Burnden Leisure still exist or is it now Sport Shield? If the deal was done with a company that's now non-operational,I have no idea

[Enoch]

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