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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by LeverEnd » Sun May 08, 2016 10:14 pm

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He can get to feck. The Scouse c*nt!
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun May 08, 2016 10:16 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
Burnden Paddock wrote:
He can get to feck. The Scouse c*nt!
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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun May 08, 2016 11:30 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Burnden Paddock wrote:
He can get to feck. The Scouse c*nt!
Watch this space....
Is that just in case he tries to put it on bricks and nick the wheels off it?
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by irie Cee Bee » Mon May 09, 2016 2:01 am

Is there someone everybody likes?

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Post by bobo the clown » Mon May 09, 2016 7:00 am

irie Cee Bee wrote:Is there someone everybody likes?
Well more or less everyone likes Coyle and Lennon on their appointment so that's no recommendation.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 09, 2016 8:02 am

http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1447 ... t_manager/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pratley may be a shit. But this simply isn't good enough. Confusion at all levels. If you're not ready to appoint don't go round telling everyone you are. Especially staff.

They need to sort themselves out pronto.

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Post by TonyDomingos » Mon May 09, 2016 8:10 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1447 ... t_manager/

Pratley may be a shit. But this simply isn't good enough. Confusion at all levels. If you're not ready to appoint don't go round telling everyone you are. Especially staff.

They need to sort themselves out pronto.
It doesn't paint a great picture, it must be said. But, it's a little odd for the club captain to speak out in this way. I'm not sure if he's attempting to engineer his own departure or he's genuinely frustrated and sees himself as the players' spokesman.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by officer_dibble » Mon May 09, 2016 8:40 am

He's been asked for a comment and he's answered. No more games to disrupt so fair enough. Sounds like a right mess.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 09, 2016 8:43 am

The manager was set 2 weeks ago according to Anderson. So we should be expecting an announcement today given the season is now over..........

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 09, 2016 9:22 am

There's no doubt the club could have done things better - the timing of the redundancy announcements on Friday, false promises if they were within our control (ie it wasn't the situation changing out of their control, which sometimes happens). But this isn't a sensible appeal for leadership, it's mealy-mouthed mithering from a whining shite who has hardly set a fine example himself.
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Have you offered to take a pay cut, Darren? If a masseur is on £400pw, that's 1/50th of a £20,000pw wage. I know the contract was signed by both parties – I've banged that legal-rights drum before – but things have changed, haven't they, Darren? And not just because of the ownership: because you, and people like you, failed dismally, failed repeatedly, failed expensively, and yet continue to pick up a wage that is largely unsustainable. Seems to me you're happy enough with fiscal f*cktardery when it's paying you, eh?
In the meeting we had with the owners at the start, they told us we would find out within a week about a new manager. That was maybe six weeks ago now.
And four months ago, Darren, you said that you and your overpaid underachieving mates wanted to "shove two fingers up" by avoiding relegation. What happened to that, Darren?
It would be nice to know who’s going to take charge, what programmes we’re on over the summer and when we’re actually coming back.
Are you seriously implying, Darren, that you can't keep yourself in reasonable shape unless someone holds your hand? I'm sure the club has your phone number and will let you know when you're due back in training. What's up, are you trying to get a cheap flight?
No-one knows anything.
So it has seemed from the on-pitch displays this season. Has the record-breaking ineptness been entirely due to your deeply empathetic fiscal concern, Darren? Or do you accept any part whatsoever in it?
Staff have been told their future now, players will get told Tuesday in their meeting, we should find out more then.
Yes. Let's hope you do.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon May 09, 2016 9:33 am

More fcuking excuses from Pratley - tell you what Darren why don't you offer to contribute some of your truly extortionate salary towards the wages of a few of the backroom staff, after all its your inept, shite, gutless performances week in week out that have been a major factor in the clubs relegation & necessity to make these staff cuts OR better still do us all a huge favour & fcuk off and relegate some other club.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon May 09, 2016 9:35 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:http://m.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/1447 ... t_manager/

Pratley may be a shit. But this simply isn't good enough. Confusion at all levels. If you're not ready to appoint don't go round telling everyone you are. Especially staff.

They need to sort themselves out pronto.
Take a day off FFS, your such a drama queen !

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 09, 2016 9:36 am

Peter Thompson wrote:fcuk off and relegate some other club.
If the rumoured interest from Wigan came true, that'd be doubly excellent...

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Worthy4England » Mon May 09, 2016 9:37 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:But this isn't a sensible appeal for leadership, it's mealy-mouthed mothering from a whining shite who has hardly set a fine example himself.
That's about where I had it pitched too...

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 09, 2016 9:37 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:But this isn't a sensible appeal for leadership, it's mealy-mouthed mothering from a whining shite who has hardly set a fine example himself.
That's about where I had it pitched too...
Yeah, except it should be "mithering". Some folk have a mothering instinct, others have a mithering instinct... :D

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 09, 2016 9:40 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:There's no doubt the club could have done things better - the timing of the redundancy announcements on Friday, false promises if they were within our control (ie it wasn't the situation changing out of their control, which sometimes happens). But this isn't a sensible appeal for leadership, it's mealy-mouthed mothering from a whining shite who has hardly set a fine example himself.
you’re taking food out of their family’s mouths
Have you offered to take a pay cut, Darren? If a masseur is on £400pw, that's 1/50th of a £20,000pw wage. I know the contract was signed by both parties – I've banged that legal-rights drum before – but things have changed, haven't they, Darren? And not just because of the ownership: because you, and people like you, failed dismally, failed repeatedly, failed expensively, and yet continue to pick up a wage that is largely unsustainable. Seems to me you're happy enough with fiscal f*cktardery when it's paying you, eh?
In the meeting we had with the owners at the start, they told us we would find out within a week about a new manager. That was maybe six weeks ago now.
And four months ago, Darren, you said that you and your overpaid underachieving mates wanted to "shove two fingers up" by avoiding relegation. What happened to that, Darren?
It would be nice to know who’s going to take charge, what programmes we’re on over the summer and when we’re actually coming back.
Are you seriously implying, Darren, that you can't keep yourself in reasonable shape unless someone holds your hand? I'm sure the club has your phone number and will let you know when you're due back in training. What's up, are you trying to get a cheap flight?
No-one knows anything.
So it has seemed from the on-pitch displays this season. Has the record-breaking ineptness been entirely due to your deeply empathetic fiscal concern, Darren? Or do you accept any part whatsoever in it?
Staff have been told their future now, players will get told Tuesday in their meeting, we should find out more then.
Yes. Let's hope you do.

I think it is important to divorce dislike of players from what he is saying. The staff redundancies are an unfortunate but probably necessary evil. And ultimately the players need to take some blame for that.

But he has been asked a question as player representative and answered it. The fact Darren is a bit of a tit is neither here nor there. Like everyone else they've been given timescales that subsequently haven't seemed to be the case and had no explanation.

If you're undertaking this sort of exercise then the communication internally needs to be on point. It is an absolute rule 1 of the handbook. I've been through and carried out similar restructures on a large scale several times. This sounds amateurish in the extreme.

You absolutely don't tell staff they'll have a new line manager within a week then 6 weeks later have nobody in place and don't go back and explain to them what is happening. Especially when during that process their mates and people they've worked with are being shunted out, with seemingly similar levels of communication.

I have no issue with the decisions that need to be taken. But it is clear to me that our owners aren't in agreement. Too many stories from too many places now. And Pratley is obviously annoyed.

If we contrast to Wigan last year they went down but had a manager in place by now working with their chairman on planning for the next season. We have no manager, staff and players who don't know whether they'll be here, two chiefs who cannot agree, no clarity on whether we will submit accounts and be able to get out of the transfer embargo, our main young talent seemingly about to depart....

It isn't good. The plans for pre-season should be sorted now. Or at the very least underway. Slag the players off absolutely, but for me that obfusciates the fact that our club had no leadership under the old regime. And now it seems to have two leaders who are pulling in different directions and creating chaos.

There are plenty of people I know who are deciding whether to renew their STs or now. They need to see concrete and positive steps from the club to tip them over the edge. Frankly I don't blame them. The club can't afford to lose the ticket sales from these people and right now I don't see them doing much to encourage anyone that next season will be better. I've been suspicious up to now, but thankful they saved us. But for me the benefit of the doubt ended after the final whistle on Saturday. Now is the time for concrete and definitive action. They've had enough time in my view.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 09, 2016 10:22 am

Yeah, I get all that. I don't even dislike Darren that much, especially compared to some other board members. And I clearly said that the club have done plenty wrong. But I tell you what doesn't help give an impression of unity: the captain gobbing off to whoever will stand still long enough.

Do you really think he's doing this altruistically without a shred of self-interest, be that deflecting blame or alerting suitors?

Remember how they used to say of players like Tony Kelly that he'd play for England if he could pass a pub as easily as he passes the ball? Well maybe Dazzler might have a chance if he could pass the ball as frequently as he passes the buck.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 09, 2016 10:32 am

So up to now Pratley's been utterly fecking shite due to confusion over the ownership of the club and now down to confusion as to who the next manager might be? Just 4uck off, Pratley, you absolute horse's arse.
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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Yeah, I get all that. I don't even dislike Darren that much, especially compared to some other board members. And I clearly said that the club have done plenty wrong. But I tell you what doesn't help give an impression of unity: the captain gobbing off to whoever will stand still long enough.

Do you really think he's doing this altruistically without a shred of self-interest, be that deflecting blame or alerting suitors?

Remember how they used to say of players like Tony Kelly that he'd play for England if he could pass a pub as easily as he passes the ball? Well maybe Dazzler might have a chance if he could pass the ball as frequently as he passes the buck.
Don't know what you mean!

That statement looks like gross misconduct to me.

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Re: Which muppet can we appoint next?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 09, 2016 12:51 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I don't even dislike Darren that much, especially compared to some other board members.
Don't know what you mean!

That statement looks like gross misconduct to me.

Sack the bastard.
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The good news is, if Darren's on £20kpw, we only need to sell Holding for £2m to cover the rest of the captain's contract.

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