Ched Evans - Do women want their ..Chesterfield (a) Sat 17th

[TonyDomingos]

When Spearing and Clough have an off day we offer nothing. Desperate need of a striker. We were awful today. Not sure I'll ever see us win away again

Fcuking hell. Poor result of the back of an amazing run. Shit happens.

LeverflippinEnd happens!

[LeverEnd]

Are you equating me to shit?
Fair enough.

[LeverEnd]

We dont really have anyone on the bench likely to get a goal which hurts us.Proctor and Anderson awaste of space. Taylors not been great. Pratley coming back might be useful just for that.

That is the problem. Proctor is a good sub when we are holding on to something. If we go behind we struggle though. Goal was against the run of play but after it we wilted. We can't seem to chase a game. Fortunately we don't go behind often I suppose.
10 consecutive away defeats now. You buggers should be showingeing me sympathy not giving me grief!

[Bruce Rioja]

Well, I made it, and wish i hadn't. fecking shit. I can't understand how a side that played like world-beaters on Monday can play like they've never met one and other five days later. Rarely stringing two passes together, nosebleeds in front of goal and absolutely no answer to how quickly we were closed down in possession by Chesterfield. Many questions were asked of everyone this afternoon and we had no answers. Credit only to Ben Alnwick who was a man amongst boys. And to Harry Genshaw for the conveyance.

[Harry Genshaw]

I'm not too down hearted. We didn't play well but still created enough to get something out of the game. Despite Mondays goal fest they're still a problem and when Zach misfires I don't know where they're coming from. I only hope that today was the day all the big boys sent their scouts to watch him

[BWFC_Insane]

Let's face it in this run we've often not played well but taken our chances and not conceded. Today opposite happened. Smashing Gillingham is if we are honest a bit of an outlier generally.

[Armchair Wanderer]

Credit only to Ben Alnwick who was a man amongst boys.

I thought the tallest dwarf was fullback Taylor.

[General Mannerheim]

when did they sign Razor Ruddock at centre half!?

[BWFC_Insane]

Let's face it in this run we've often not played well but taken our chances and not conceded. Today opposite happened. Smashing Gillingham is if we are honest a bit of an outlier generally.

Changed your tone a bit insano. The gist I've been getting from the recent match threads is that this is the outlier. All other matches we've created quite a few chances and defended comfortably. This sounded like poor all round performances, of the likes of the Oxford match. Mind I've not been to a game since Swindon away, although I'm hoping to make the Boxing day match if I'm not too hungover.

Nah look at other games beyond Gillingham, Coventry 2nd half say, or Northampton.

We've scored and kept teams out at times. Not often been brilliant. Point is vs Chesterfield had Zach scored we'd probably have won. They scored and did enough.

Not criticising, just saying that can happen when fine margins go the other way.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Grumbly pissed bloke who materialised alongside my aisle seat spent the last 10 minutes complaining. One of his more coherent thought processes, which is a low bar but there you go, went something along the lines of "this is shit... like at Walsall, and Peterborough, and..." then he shut up.

Probably too hammered to even see the pitch at Rochdale.

It is what it is, and it was what it was. Sometimes you have to give credit to the opposition, and on Saturday Chesterfield – having scored a decent goal which can't easily be blamed on any defender or defenders - were quickest to every knockdown and stray pass, and decent at stretching us once they had the ball themselves. It was the sort of thing we'e been doing very well all season, and they did it to us. Such is life sometimes.

I don't think we played terribly, just that too many of our players had slight off-days. Not awful, nothing-went-right, lazy-arse, can't-kick-straight horror shows, just slightly fluffed passes and lack of confidence. In the warm-up Zach was popping shots into all corners, but I said to Flanners that when he's in one-on-ones I still don't feel confident - arguably less so than Josh these days. That's not to say We Should Sell Clough, just that you don't get that feeling of certainty. It's hard to define, but it's there. True enough (and to my sadness rather than told-you-so superiority), he fluffed our best chance and was among many to waft second-half chances high into the away end.

Flanners notes correctly that our games these days are frequently first-goal-wins. (Not massively unusual. Apparently yesterday was the first time in more than four years that Man City had won a home game after being behind at half-time.) That has been the case in our last 18 games, 12 of them wins, 6 losses. That's partly due to our very welcome defensive solidity, slightly due to a lack of ideas up front if Zach/Sammy aren't firing, partly due to respectful opponents sitting back and defending for their lives against title candidates.

So, 10 hours and close on £100 wasted, but I wasn't screaming in anger at the players, or bemoaning my loss. It's a pity, especially as the atmosphere before the goal was crackling with a large and very vocal away support. We won't go far wrong.

EDIT Error: Of our last 18 games, we're W12 L6 not W12 D6. Last draw was against Bradford... 0-0.

[BWFC_Insane]

Get what DSB says about Clough. His one on one finishing against a keeper could use some work. He used to be fabulous at it, but he seems to always hit the keeper now. In some ways might be good as might be a factor that prevents someone taking him from us in January. Though come 1st Feb I'd like him to be knocking them in for fun. Bottom line is if we want to go up, our front 4 have to score more.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

if we want to go up, our front 4 have to score more.

Not sure they do - they'd got 7 in the previous two games. But we do need to work out how to come from behind, on the thankfully rare occasions we slip. This wasn't as bad as Walsall, where even before half-time the midfield frequently abdicated creative responsibility to Beevers and Wheater to bang gormless balls into the box, but we still lacked a little creative thrust - not notably once we abandoned the 4-2-3-1 and sent Zach up top it got even worse. (That's not necessarily a dig at the wee man, we just missed his potential for running at defenders - nor is it to criticise his left-side replacement Chris Taylor.)

[LeverEnd]

I don't get Chris Taylor. Why not bring Henry on? Parky s sub decisions really annoyed me.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

I don't get Chris Taylor. Why not bring Henry on? Parky s sub decisions really annoyed me.

Stop trying to pass the blame, we all know it's your fault for attending

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I would dearly love Chris Taylor to score. He was close on a couple of occasions on Monday and didn't do a lot wrong (IMO) Saturday. He's not Zach Clough, but that's not unusual for this division.

Henry I'd also like to do well, but I'm less convinced he genuinely wants it. Slightly surprised to hear Ken say that they wanted to extend "both" the loans-to-January - Sammy is obviously a shoo-in, but Henry hasn't exactly scorched the earth and considering we're short on squad space I'm not convinced there isn't better out there.

On the subject of terrace favourites, I noted before Chesterfield scored that on three or four occasions people tried to get "Gary Madine, Goal Machine" going, but there was still a mixed reaction. I'm sure it would all have been different - songs, result, rumination – had his fierce first-half snap-shot from the edge of the box gone either side of a thankful goalkeeper.

[officer_dibble]

Yeah I imagine Henry is a decent wage for this decision. Hasn't looked that great and won't shift Ameobi. I'd be binning him off in Jan and looking for a goalscorer on loan. Someone of the bench that could change the focal point of the attack if plan A isn't working. Bit like Ricketts when we got promoted from the first division. Someone experienced rather than a kid. Be nice if we could send anderson back and loan woolery as well...

[BWFC_Insane]

if we want to go up, our front 4 have to score more.

Not sure they do - they'd got 7 in the previous two games. But we do need to work out how to come from behind, on the thankfully rare occasions we slip. This wasn't as bad as Walsall, where even before half-time the midfield frequently abdicated creative responsibility to Beevers and Wheater to bang gormless balls into the box, but we still lacked a little creative thrust - not notably once we abandoned the 4-2-3-1 and sent Zach up top it got even worse. (That's not necessarily a dig at the wee man, we just missed his potential for running at defenders - nor is it to criticise his left-side replacement Chris Taylor.)

I think that we always seem like every couple of months there is a game in us where we will miss a fair few chances and lose. It is why I think we might struggle for the top two.

Seems to be a little pattern....I just think perhaps we lack one goalscorer off the bench. Just to change it if one of the front four is misfiring like Zach on Saturday.

[Peter Thompson]

if we want to go up, our front 4 have to score more.

Not sure they do - they'd got 7 in the previous two games. But we do need to work out how to come from behind, on the thankfully rare occasions we slip. This wasn't as bad as Walsall, where even before half-time the midfield frequently abdicated creative responsibility to Beevers and Wheater to bang gormless balls into the box, but we still lacked a little creative thrust - not notably once we abandoned the 4-2-3-1 and sent Zach up top it got even worse. (That's not necessarily a dig at the wee man, we just missed his potential for running at defenders - nor is it to criticise his left-side replacement Chris Taylor.)

I think that we always seem like every couple of months there is a game in us where we will miss a fair few chances and lose. It is why I think we might struggle for the top two.

Seems to be a little pattern....I just think perhaps we lack one goalscorer off the bench. Just to change it if one of the front four is misfiring like Zach on Saturday.

Totally agree with this post....Chris Taylor is certainly not the answer when we need a goal, nor is Anderson or Proctor.

[LeverEnd]

I think we're stuck with Anderson for the season. Henry looks like he's got something but not entirely committed like DSB says. Taylor looks like a pub player and no matter how committed he is I can't see him ever making a difference. Happy to be proved wrong of course.

[Worthy4England]

The best transfer we could make in January, is LeverEnd out, to Wiggin or something.

Oh Domingo's isn't much better for London games either!