January 2022 Transfer Thread

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:58 pm

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We need to learn from this. All the talk about screening potential signings for vaccine scepticism, and we didn't check the guy's social media history?

I can see how it might fall down the cracks between departments but it needs to be someone's responsibility from right now. Markham's department are data analysts - it's not a huge leap to scrolling through Twitter, FB & Insta feeds.
It’s not a football department issue. It’s a business HR issue. Markham and Evatt sorry but not their job.
Yes, but they are essentially the football HR department. As I say, I dunno, but if someone's gotta check it and we've already got a room full of laptop-poring data-checkers, it makes sense to me for them to do it from now on. Not saying it's their fault as clearly nobody saw this coming.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:03 pm

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It’s not a football department issue. It’s a business HR issue. Markham and Evatt sorry but not their job.
Character and personality of protentional signings is absolutely the recruitment department's job.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:20 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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It’s not a football department issue. It’s a business HR issue. Markham and Evatt sorry but not their job.
Character and personality of protentional signings is absolutely the recruitment department's job.
In terms of are they a lad who will knuckle down and work hard and fit in etc. Not digging through historic tweets. That’s an HR or recruitment role. Probably via an agency.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:28 pm

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In terms of are they a lad who will knuckle down and work hard and fit in etc. Not digging through historic tweets. That’s an HR or recruitment role. Probably via an agency.
Ordinarily, as a recruitment team, you would request stuff from other departments (if that's how it was divided up). In the Prem we had people in the recruitment team with that specific job, but even lower down the leagues the recruitment team should have had that information in hand regardless of source. Nobody should have gone to the board without that done. This isn't like a bank interviewing a clerk.

This is the same as outsourcing it. It's the recruitment team who would request the external agency made the checks. Part of that is to keep leaks to a minimum but it's also just standard practice.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:04 pm

Back onto transfers…probably need a thread on our soon to be banned new signing….

Cole Stockton would offer us something different up top but there is no way we would ply to his strengths.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:15 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:04 pm
Back onto transfers…probably need a thread on our soon to be banned new signing….

Cole Stockton would offer us something different up top but there is no way we would ply to his strengths.
Read summat, somewhere today saying we didn't fancy £500k for him...

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:19 pm

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Read summat, somewhere today saying we didn't fancy £500k for him...
We fancy 350k for Charles with 6 months on his deal but not 500k for Stockton with 18 months on his?

It's bold, I'll say that.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:23 pm

Charles will be £300k based on him playing in x, scoring y and us being promoted. Not sure on the first two but the thirds not happening! Stockton will I suspect be £500k to us now. He’s not an Evatt player I think. Wonder who the other striker is - a good version of Bakayoko would be nice.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:27 pm

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Charles will be £300k based on him playing in x, scoring y and us being promoted.
We don't know that and it's not what has been suggested in the reporting.

I think people are trying to make sense of the fee, but ultimately it looks like we've paid at least the bulk of it to get him. Accrington certainly seem pleased with their end of the deal and their guy isn't a mug on the finances.

Iles' reporting is that we are also forking out more fees to secure players. Will be interesting to see how much those are reported at.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by nicholaldo » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:27 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:23 pm
Charles will be £300k based on him playing in x, scoring y and us being promoted. Not sure on the first two but the thirds not happening! Stockton will I suspect be £500k to us now. He’s not an Evatt player I think. Wonder who the other striker is - a good version of Bakayoko would be nice.

I think Iles claimed it was a £320,000 fee paid in installments rather than being conditional on clauses being met but he (or I) could be wrong.

I find it hard to believe Morecambe would allow Stockton to leave for the rumoured £500,000 fee. He's surely worth much more to them than that?

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:35 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:19 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:15 pm
Read summat, somewhere today saying we didn't fancy £500k for him...
We fancy 350k for Charles with 6 months on his deal but not 500k for Stockton with 18 months on his?

It's bold, I'll say that.
I'm not saying it's anywhere close to the truth! :-)

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:34 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:35 pm
I'm not saying it's anywhere close to the truth! :-)
Evatt (and the club's leading interview questions) would seem to be saying we expect more in before the weekend game - so will be interesting to see what we do.

The squad clearly needs a lift.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by The_Gun » Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:55 am

nicholaldo wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:27 pm
officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:23 pm
Charles will be £300k based on him playing in x, scoring y and us being promoted. Not sure on the first two but the thirds not happening! Stockton will I suspect be £500k to us now. He’s not an Evatt player I think. Wonder who the other striker is - a good version of Bakayoko would be nice.

I think Iles claimed it was a £320,000 fee paid in installments rather than being conditional on clauses being met but he (or I) could be wrong.

I find it hard to believe Morecambe would allow Stockton to leave for the rumoured £500,000 fee. He's surely worth much more to them than that?
£500k would be a lot of cash for Morecambe, but yeah, I would think that would be the absolute minimum they would accept for Stockton. For us, it wouldn't make sense to be paying that kind of money for a soon to be 28 year old.

Let's hope the next signing is a central midfielder, because on the evidence of last night that's clearly our biggest area of need.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:42 am

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Let's hope the next signing is a central midfielder, because on the evidence of last night that's clearly our biggest area of need.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:45 am

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"Hold my beer". Joel Dixon. 04/01/2022
Hard to argue with his assist in the Hartlepool game.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:50 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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"Hold my beer". Joel Dixon. 04/01/2022
Hard to argue with his assist in the Hartlepool game.
I've had a problem for some time now with Evatt's apparent afterthought approach to the GK position.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:50 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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I've had a problem for some time now with Evatt's apparent afterthought approach to the GK position.
I think most of us have.

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by officer_dibble » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:55 am

Worst thing is we haven’t even got a replacement - Gilks has clearly retired so Dixon plays every week. There is nobody there to knock on the managers door and say I should be playing, not this clown!

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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:02 am

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:50 am
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:50 am
I've had a problem for some time now with Evatt's apparent afterthought approach to the GK position.
I think most of us have.
Indeed, however, when I've raised it previously I usually get met with an Evatt-esque 'not our area of greatest concern', which may be true, but it's definitely an area of concern.
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Re: January 2022 Transfer Thread

Post by GhostoftheBok » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:07 am

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Indeed, however, when I've raised it previously I usually get met with an Evatt-esque 'not our area of greatest concern', which may be true, but it's definitely an area of concern.
Both sides are right there, I think. We can stay up with Dixon, but we definitely can't go up with him - not unless he has a level we're yet to see.

Evatt is consistently taking the cheap option. I think that's because, ultimately, he's arrogant enough to think his side shouldn't need a top 'keeper. Hope I'm wrong, but it's how it seems.

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