The Politics Thread

[TANGODANCER]

Crikey what a grim cabinet. Pitchforks at dawn anyone?

Grim perhaps, and the Winter of our discontent looms, but that's what we have now and is it/can it be/ any worse than what we've had? We have little choice in the matter, so give it a chance before you get the tar and feathers out.

[BWFC_Insane]

Crikey what a grim cabinet. Pitchforks at dawn anyone?

Grim perhaps, and the Winter of our discontent looms, but that's what we have now and is it/can it be/ any worse than what we've had? We have little choice in the matter, so give it a chance before you get the tar and feathers out.

They’ve had twelve years and put us in this mess. They’ve had a ridiculous amount of chances. Time was up long ago.

[Prufrock]

The record for the "worst holders of the four offices of state" has been smashed on a seemingly weekly basis for the last 7 years, but even so that's a new low. Christ alive. At "pretty shit" Kwarteng is a god amongst men.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

It will closely resemble a boardroom of the undead. Never mind nothing behind the eyes, there's nowt between the ears of that lot

We're dooooomed

[TANGODANCER]

Crikey what a grim cabinet. Pitchforks at dawn anyone?

Grim perhaps, and the Winter of our discontent looms, but that's what we have now and is it/can it be/ any worse than what we've had? We have little choice in the matter, so give it a chance before you get the tar and feathers out.

They’ve had twelve years and put us in this mess. They’ve had a ridiculous amount of chances. Time was up long ago.

So what do you (realistically) suggest we do? I ( a lifetime Labour supporter) am not defending or disagreeing with what you say, and talking history and past tense may well add to the scores, but this cabinet haven't had twelve hours yet and your views won't change reality. If you can effect change, then become an M.P and get on with it. Meanwhile, as my electric meter ticks relentlessly on and everything is dearer then yesterday, throwing literal imaginary stones at the door of No 10 will achieve what exactly?

[BWFC_Insane]

Crikey what a grim cabinet. Pitchforks at dawn anyone?

Grim perhaps, and the Winter of our discontent looms, but that's what we have now and is it/can it be/ any worse than what we've had? We have little choice in the matter, so give it a chance before you get the tar and feathers out.

They’ve had twelve years and put us in this mess. They’ve had a ridiculous amount of chances. Time was up long ago.

So what do you (realistically) suggest we do? I ( a lifetime Labour supporter) am not defending or disagreeing with what you say, and talking history and past tense may well add to the scores, but this cabinet haven't had twelve hours yet and your views won't change reality. If you can effect change, then become an M.P and get on with it. Meanwhile, as my electric meter ticks relentlessly on and everything is dearer then yesterday, throwing literal imaginary stones at the door of No 10 will achieve what exactly?

It’s not like this is new. These are almost all people who have been in the last cabinet. And in many cases the one before that.

They’ve failed. All we can realistically do is wait till they grant us a chance for ‘our say’ and boot them out.

However I’d be be that shocked to see millions refuse to pay their bills this winter and potentially civil unrest. People have had enough. I’d not advocate for either but it’s where we’ve been driven to.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

However I’d be be that shocked to see millions refuse to pay their bills this winter and potentially civil unrest. People have had enough. I’d not advocate for either but it’s where we’ve been driven to.

They will cap it all by just enough to avoid this, pretend they're being ace and helping us all and then feck us over with the bill later. It wont be the ones making excess profits funding it. She'll cut taxes, blame labour and the turkeys will vote for Christmas again and another 5 years of the same.

[BWFC_Insane]

However I’d be be that shocked to see millions refuse to pay their bills this winter and potentially civil unrest. People have had enough. I’d not advocate for either but it’s where we’ve been driven to.

They will cap it all by just enough to avoid this, pretend they're being ace and helping us all and then feck us over with the bill later. It wont be the ones making excess profits funding it. She'll cut taxes, blame labour and the turkeys will vote for Christmas again and another 5 years of the same.

They will cap it for sure but the country’s mood has changed and we see polling suggesting over 80% want windfall taxes on oil and gas companies to pay it. There is also huge support for nationalisation.

I get the cynicism but I detect a real sea change in the public opinion. People are fed up. People I know who are normally not at all political and don’t bother much with news are in enough is enough.

Like I say the political pendulum swings slowly but almost always does swing eventually.

[jimbo]

How long do we give them? Our new health secretary has kicked off talking about how the majority of primary care is done by doctors, dentists……. And chiropractors!?
At least do some basic research into the department you’re now in charge of before you head infront of the cameras with your great claims of how youre going to fix things.

[Worthy4England]

How long do we give them? Our new health secretary has kicked off talking about how the majority of primary care is done by doctors, dentists……. And chiropractors!?
At least do some basic research into the department you’re now in charge of before you head infront of the cameras with your great claims of how youre going to fix things.

Clearly a man without corns!

[Bruce Rioja]

Crikey what a grim cabinet. Pitchforks at dawn anyone?

As delighted as I am to see Priti Patel resign, I also feel that she owes us an explanation as to just what the feck it is that she's been doing for the past three years. I can't think of a single other politician in my adult lifetime who's talked so much and delivered so little.

[TANGODANCER]

I get the cynicism but I detect a real sea change in the public opinion. People are fed up. People I know who are normally not at all political and don’t bother much with news are in enough is enough. Like I say the political pendulum swings slowly but almost always does swing eventually.

But none of it is action. It's a massive talkathon of intent without result. It's not as if any of it is new happenings. It's a bit like all these "experts" advising folk what to do in case of a blackout, for example. How many of them have ever actually seen a blackout? How many of them will be working by candle light or putting extra sweaters on to keep warm, or turning lights off to keep bill down? Talk, talk and more talk insulting what is basically common sense anyway. In all this, are the new lot any different/worse than your self-confessed history of political disaster? Can it actually get much worse?

I'll sit back and wait right now, and so will you, because there are no alternatives. Talk is just snake-oil medicine in a fancy wrapper. Get on with it.

[BWFC_Insane]

I get the cynicism but I detect a real sea change in the public opinion. People are fed up. People I know who are normally not at all political and don’t bother much with news are in enough is enough. Like I say the political pendulum swings slowly but almost always does swing eventually.

But none of it is action. It's a massive talkathon of intent without result. It's not as if any of it is new happenings. It's a bit like all these "experts" advising folk what to do in case of a blackout, for example. How many of them have ever actually seen a blackout? How many of them will be working by candle light or putting extra sweaters on to keep warm, or turning lights off to keep bill down? Talk, talk and more talk insulting what is basically common sense anyway. In all this, are the new lot any different/worse than your self-confessed history of political disaster? Can it actually get much worse?

I'll sit back and wait right now, and so will you, because there are no alternatives. Talk is just snake-oil medicine in a fancy wrapper. Get on with it.

I’m not sure what you are asking. The action we have available to us is at the ballot box when we are allowed to.

Everyone will have a choice to make. It was laid out quite clearly just now. Truss wants us to pay the bill. Labour want the huge companies making massive profits to take some of the hit.

People get to make the choice.

I did like truss describing the oil and gas companies making £160Bn in excess (yes on top of) profits in these two years as ‘aspiration’. Good luck with that love. Don’t think you quite get it.

[Worthy4England]

If I understand this right, your response to lack of action TD, is to sit back and wait? That's cunning!

[TANGODANCER]

If I understand this right, your response to lack of action TD, is to sit back and wait? That's cunning!

I'll take advice on it if you have some Worthy , and well, I could put a cross on a piece of paper when the time comes to vote, but even 221B is a more believable number than 10 right now. As Jane Austen put it “Life seems nothing more than a quick succession of busy nothings.”. On with the motley...

[jimbo]

How long do we give them? Our new health secretary has kicked off talking about how the majority of primary care is done by doctors, dentists……. And chiropractors!?
At least do some basic research into the department you’re now in charge of before you head infront of the cameras with your great claims of how youre going to fix things.

Clearly a man without corns!

Not sure a chiropractor is going to help you out there!

[Worthy4England]

How long do we give them? Our new health secretary has kicked off talking about how the majority of primary care is done by doctors, dentists……. And chiropractors!?
At least do some basic research into the department you’re now in charge of before you head infront of the cameras with your great claims of how youre going to fix things.

Clearly a man without corns!

Not sure a chiropractor is going to help you out there!

Err! Gotcha - just putting in a bid to be Health Secretary!

[TANGODANCER]

" May and Truss celebrate third Conservative woman PM" ...B.B.C.News.

Celebrating what exactly, A new P.M, a Conservative or its a woman? Hope it's the first, because the second will be immaterial in winning or failing, and the third, well that might be seen as a an "ism" in some quarters. Just commenting...

[Bruce Rioja]

So, I've just been looking through Truss's cabinet and generally nodding until we get to ' Jacob Rees-Mogg, business, energy and industrial strategy secretary' He's a climate change denier!

[TANGODANCER]

Reading of beer at "£20 per pint predictions (B.N) tells me the world has finally flipped. Madness?