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Re: Dem Bones, Dem Bones, Dem Bare Bones....

Post by The_Gun » Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:37 am

Jones and Dempsey doubts for Wednesday according to Iles this morning. Of the two Dempsey would certainly be the bigger miss.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:38 am

Play Bradley in midfield for Dempsey and Williams rwb (can he play?) Bradley offers the running and tenacity of Dempsey and even more ball carrying. It’s worth a try and think it might suit Bradley. Short of that I don’t see an option for Weds assuming Thomason is deemed not ready still.

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Post by Tails07 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:12 am

Can Mbete play Wednesday? Assuming he was at Huddersfield first half of season and not playing for Man City U21s in the pizza cup? So if Jones is out we only have 2 fit center backs.

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Re: Dem Bones, Dem Bones, Dem Bare Bones....

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Feb 19, 2023 11:21 am

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Play Bradley in midfield for Dempsey and Williams rwb (can he play?) Bradley offers the running and tenacity of Dempsey and even more ball carrying. It’s worth a try and think it might suit Bradley. Short of that I don’t see an option for Weds assuming Thomason is deemed not ready still.
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Can Mbete play Wednesday? Assuming he was at Huddersfield first half of season and not playing for Man City U21s in the pizza cup? So if Jones is out we only have 2 fit center backs.
As far as I can see, assuming they can only be cuptied by playing for another team in this season's competition (as opposed to some spurious competition-specific signing deadline)

CUPTIED
Adeboyejo
N'Lundulu
Shoretire

NOT CUPTIED
Mbete
Jerome
R Williams

Randy played v Pompey in the last round so if he's for some reason cuptied, we're in bigger trouble than we think

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Re: Dem Bones, Dem Bones, Dem Bare Bones....

Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:23 pm

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Play Bradley in midfield for Dempsey and Williams rwb (can he play?) Bradley offers the running and tenacity of Dempsey and even more ball carrying. It’s worth a try and think it might suit Bradley. Short of that I don’t see an option for Weds assuming Thomason is deemed not ready still.
God, no. Why would you put a kid in a position he's never played in a semi-final when you have experienced options who can play?

We can play Lee or Sheehan as 8s, Kachunga at 10, etc. We have options without taking one of our best players out of where he's been so good this season and sticking him into a role he doesn't know.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:28 pm

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Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:38 am
Play Bradley in midfield for Dempsey and Williams rwb (can he play?) Bradley offers the running and tenacity of Dempsey and even more ball carrying. It’s worth a try and think it might suit Bradley. Short of that I don’t see an option for Weds assuming Thomason is deemed not ready still.
God, no. Why would you put a kid in a position he's never played in a semi-final when you have experienced options who can play?

We can play Lee or Sheehan as 8s, Kachunga at 10, etc. We have options without taking one of our best players out of where he's been so good this season and sticking him into a role he doesn't know.
Sheehan is soft as shite and will offer nowt at Accrington bar being a passenger.

We could put Lee there but it means Kachunga will start and Jerome and Charles. How do you change it if needed up front? Or for ET?

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:37 pm

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Sheehan is soft as shite and will offer nowt at Accrington bar being a passenger.
You don't think some of our players should ever play, but they are needed.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:09 pm

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Sheehan is soft as shite and will offer nowt at Accrington bar being a passenger.
You don't think some of our players should ever play, but they are needed.
Sheehan won’t offer anything. We have Williams who can. And Bradley could be a great option in midfield.

It’s quite simple. Who would do Dempseys role best, and I would say out of what’s available it would be Bradley.

He’s not played it before but so what? Jones has rarely played right wing back but did a good job, previously he’d never played centre back but did a good job.

Johnston had never played wing back but did a job against FGR for a while.

We need to put out the 11 that gives us the best chance and my personal opinion is that is not Sheehan in midfield.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:28 pm

Where's Sadlier in all this? Not too long ago he was gold-plated. Is he injured?
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Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:29 pm

Well, we'll see what happens.

If Evatt puts Bradley in midfield then fair enough, for me it's an error to shift our most reliable outlet out of position to try and cover another issue - you risk just creating two issues where you had one. Shifting into central midfield from the wing is totally different from a fullback (who was a centre back as a youth player) moving to right of a three.

Sheehan, Lee and Kachunga are all fine for playing League One opposition. Kacha can do the leg work in midfield like he did yesterday when Dempsey went off. Sheehan can cover ground and cope with the rough stuff, as he did yesterday. Lee, we all agree, is a quality player. There's enough there.

You've got an image in your head of players that isn't related to what they actually do in front of you on a football pitch. That means that Sheehan and Kacha will never be answers to any issue we have in your head, but they can be on the pitch.
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Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:30 pm

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Where's Sadlier in all this? Not too long ago he was gold-plated. Is he injured?
Currently playing quite well for Orient.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:31 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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Where's Sadlier in all this? Not too long ago he was gold-plated. Is he injured?
Currently playing quite well for Orient.
Ah, forgot. Cheers.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:33 pm

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Well, we'll see what happens.

If Evatt puts Bradley in midfield then fair enough, for me it's an error to shift our most reliable outlet out of position to try and cover another issue - you risk just creating two issues where you had one. Shifting into central midfield from the wing is totally different from a fullback (who was a centre back as a youth player) moving to right of a three.

Sheehan, Lee and Kachunga are all fine for playing League One opposition. Kacha can do the leg work in midfield like he did yesterday when Dempsey went off. Sheehan can cope cover ground with the rough stuff, as he did yesterday. Lee, we all agree, is a quality player. There's enough there.

You've got an image in your head of players that isn't related to what they actually do in front of you on a football pitch. That means that Sheehan and Kacha will never be answers to any issue we have in your head, but they can be on the pitch.
It’s nothing to do with images in my head. Sheehan is a bit powderpuff and I’ve not seen him make an impact in a game like Wycombe or Accrington will be. He is a space finder but I don’t see him finding much there.

Bradley can cover ground like Dempsey and can carry it like Dempsey and can win it like Dempsey. Best solution is Dempsey is fit.

I ask again if Kachunga starts and Jerome therefore also starts up front who is coming on to change it for Jerome and Kachunga OR crucially for the possibility of extra time?

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:49 pm

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It’s nothing to do with images in my head. Sheehan is a bit powderpuff and I’ve not seen him make an impact in a game like Wycombe or Accrington will be. He is a space funder but I don’t see him finding much there.

Bradley can cover ground like Dempsey and can carry it like Dempsey and can win it like Dempsey. Best solution is Dempsey is fit.

I ask again if Kachunga starts and Jerome therefore also starts up front who is coming on to change it for Jerome and Kachunga OR crucially for the possibility of extra time?
Personally I'd start either Kacha or Jerome, not both.

I'd play Dempsey at 6 with Lee and Sheehan as 8s. Then either the two forwards or Kacha as more of a hybrid 10 and Charles up front. I'd want numbers in the middle of a congested pitch against Accy. I don't think we need Dempsey's work rate as much as we need options and angles for players in possession and bodies close for second ball. The space will come out wide and I want Bradley's running there to exploit that.

My side would probably be: Traf, Toal, Santos, Mbete, Bradley, Lee, Dempsey, Sheehan, John, Kacha, Charles.

I'd feel a bit bad not starting Jerome, as I think he deserves a go; but it's a tough call whatever we go with.

Like I say, if Bradley starts in midfield fair enough. I'd just rather see our best outlet in his best position. Regardless, the bench will have to have B team players on it, you'd imagine. We may even need to use them, which will be a big challenge for them.

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Re: Dem Bones, Dem Bones, Dem Bare Bones....

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:56 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:49 pm
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Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:33 pm
It’s nothing to do with images in my head. Sheehan is a bit powderpuff and I’ve not seen him make an impact in a game like Wycombe or Accrington will be. He is a space funder but I don’t see him finding much there.

Bradley can cover ground like Dempsey and can carry it like Dempsey and can win it like Dempsey. Best solution is Dempsey is fit.

I ask again if Kachunga starts and Jerome therefore also starts up front who is coming on to change it for Jerome and Kachunga OR crucially for the possibility of extra time?
Personally I'd start either Kacha or Jerome, not both.

I'd play Dempsey at 6 with Lee and Sheehan as 8s. Then either the two forwards or Kacha as more of a hybrid 10 and Charles up front. I'd want numbers in the middle of a congested pitch against Accy. I don't think we need Dempsey's work rate as much as we need options and angles for players in possession and bodies close for second ball. The space will come out wide and I want Bradley's running there to exploit that.

My side would probably be: Traf, Toal, Santos, Mbete, Bradley, Lee, Dempsey, Sheehan, John, Kacha, Charles.

I'd feel a bit bad not starting Jerome, as I think he deserves a go; but it's a tough call whatever we go with.

Like I say, if Bradley starts in midfield fair enough. I'd just rather see our best outlet in his best position. Regardless, the bench will have to have B team players on it, you'd imagine. We may even need to use them, which will be a big challenge for them.
I mean sure we are working on assumption Dempsey won’t be fit though….

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:00 pm

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I mean sure we are working on assumption Dempsey won’t be fit though….
Your lips to God's ears and he is fit to play. I would love to see Dempsey start and Thommo on the bench.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:04 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
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I mean sure we are working on assumption Dempsey won’t be fit though….
Your lips to God's ears and he is fit to play. I would love to see Dempsey start and Thommo on the bench.
If Dempsey is fit it’s Morley, Dempsey and Lee. Not sure much question there.

And I suspect Kachunga with Charles.

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Post by GhostoftheBok » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:08 pm

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If Dempsey is fit it’s Morley, Dempsey and Lee. Not sure much question there.

And I suspect Kachunga with Charles.
I'd say so.

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Post by Prufrock » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:19 pm

I'd be very surprised if Jerome didn't start. Tight ground away from home, physical presence. He left Luton because he still wants to play rather than be bit part. On the bench for fellow Jan signing, Vic? Sure? Young kid from United who's worked well with Dion? I guess. For Kacha? Not for me.

Less surprised then if he played Bradley in midfield, like. If Dempsey is out, I'd assume it's one of Kacha or Sheehan, probs the latter.
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Re: Dem Bones, Dem Bones, Dem Bare Bones....

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:37 pm

GhostoftheBok wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:08 pm
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Sun Feb 19, 2023 7:04 pm
If Dempsey is fit it’s Morley, Dempsey and Lee. Not sure much question there.

And I suspect Kachunga with Charles.
I'd say so.
But you’ve dropped Morley in your side?

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