The ianevattable sacking

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When does Evatt go?

Now, international break and time to save the season.
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Give him 10 more games, least he deserves.
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He’ll turn this around.
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After Duff dies him again - Hudds at home.
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by DJBlu » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am

Genuinely gutted it didn't work out. Thanks for the good memories Ian.

I don't expect his replacement to be in soon and I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Allardyce walks through the door to "help out"

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:58 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.
Thank the lord.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:02 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:58 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.
Thank the lord.
We might also start to get a notion with a new manager of whether buying small toys that break a lot was being driven by the football department or the recruitment department.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by KeyserSoze » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:03 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.
Brett Ormerod feeling very lonely at the moment.
Nero fiddles while Gordon Burns.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:04 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:58 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.
Thank the lord.
Does this mean that they may have someone lined up ?, as there is no one to take over as interim or caretaker.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by DJBlu » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:12 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:04 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:58 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.
Thank the lord.
Does this mean that they may have someone lined up ?, as there is no one to take over as interim or caretaker.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's a "If I go then so do my staff", "Okay then, bye"

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:14 am

DJBlu wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Genuinely gutted it didn't work out. Thanks for the good memories Ian.
Couldn't agree more. I wanted it to work and I backed him longer than many. I wish him no ill will, but glad he's gone.
DJBlu wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
I don't expect his replacement to be in soon
Not sure about this - do we take our time, or hurry up to give the new manager some window to work with?
DJBlu wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Allardyce walks through the door to "help out"
Couldn't agree less. I don't think he'd do it and I don't think Sharon would either. But who knows....

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by jmjhb » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:14 am

They've asked me to step in for a few games.

Shall I play four-four-fecking-two?
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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bertie Wooster » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:15 am

What about David Wagner ?

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:18 am

jmjhb wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:14 am
They've asked me to step in for a few games.

Shall I play four-four-fecking-two?
I'd prefer four-fecking four-two if that is ok? :)

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:19 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:14 am
DJBlu wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Genuinely gutted it didn't work out. Thanks for the good memories Ian.
Couldn't agree more. I wanted it to work and I backed him longer than many. I wish him no ill will, but glad he's gone.
DJBlu wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
I don't expect his replacement to be in soon
Not sure about this - do we take our time, or hurry up to give the new manager some window to work with?
DJBlu wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
I wouldn't be surprised if Sam Allardyce walks through the door to "help out"
Couldn't agree less. I don't think he'd do it and I don't think Sharon would either. But who knows....
I'd hope they've at least been keeping an eye on alternatives in recent months given this was a real possibility. Hoping it is a quick permanent appointment.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by The_Gun » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:20 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:04 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:58 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:57 am
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:55 am
Wonder if they’ll turf Atherton and keep Crainey as caretaker (or “interim”)
Apparently they have all gone, Crainey, Atherton & Gilks.
Thank the lord.
Does this mean that they may have someone lined up ?, as there is no one to take over as interim or caretaker.
Andy Taylor or Julian Darby might step in for a game.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:22 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:15 am
What about David Wagner ?
ooof. Big risk that IMO. Got Huddersfield promoted with a negative goal difference, and though he did well to keep them up, it's not been impressive since. Went to Schalke, sacked after just over a year following a run of 18 winless games. Went to a Swiss club that had won the league for thre consectuive seasons, finished 15pts off the top, was sacked. Went to Norwich, who'd been bouncing between the top two divisions, didn't get them promoted.

I mean, maybe. But also maybe not.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:25 am

jmjhb wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:14 am
They've asked me to step in for a few games.

Shall I play four-four-fecking-two?
Looking at last night, I think you might need to start with a sweeper. But it depends if your 442 comes with aimlessley possessing the football, or tackling, heading and fast transitions...

When I look back at the 90 minutes "entertainment" am I going to say we scored 4 (lets call that 8 minutes), but the rest of the time fcuk all happened or will it have been a leave it all out there game?

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:40 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:22 am
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:15 am
What about David Wagner ?
ooof. Big risk that IMO. Got Huddersfield promoted with a negative goal difference, and though he did well to keep them up, it's not been impressive since. Went to Schalke, sacked after just over a year following a run of 18 winless games. Went to a Swiss club that had won the league for thre consectuive seasons, finished 15pts off the top, was sacked. Went to Norwich, who'd been bouncing between the top two divisions, didn't get them promoted.

I mean, maybe. But also maybe not.
Yeah his post Huddersfield record feels a bit ‘no thanks’. Having said that a famous manager also came here with a fairly dubious and mixed record….also did little afterwards too.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by brommers95 » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:46 am

Bit of a left field shout but Damien Duff is somebody who’s been impressing over in Ireland as manager of Shelbourne. He led them to their first league title in 18 years last season.

He didn’t just waltz into that job on the back of his name either - he’s done the hard yards coaching wise, starting out at Shamrock Rovers U15s before coaching Ireland youth teams and the Celtic reserves.

Fun fact: his assistant at Shelbourne is none other than Mr Joey O’Brien

I’m guessing the Ludonautics data nerds will have some sort of input into potential managers to target for interviews, so some obscure names from further afield may crop up.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Prufrock » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:48 am

Yeah, I'm not expecting to have heard of them. I'm fine with that.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:55 am

brommers95 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:46 am
Bit of a left field shout but Damien Duff is somebody who’s been impressing over in Ireland as manager of Shelbourne. He led them to their first league title in 18 years last season.

He didn’t just waltz into that job on the back of his name either - he’s done the hard yards coaching wise, starting out at Shamrock Rovers U15s before coaching Ireland youth teams and the Celtic reserves.

Fun fact: his assistant at Shelbourne is none other than Mr Joey O’Brien

I’m guessing the Ludonautics data nerds will have some sort of input into potential managers to target for interviews, so some obscure names from further afield may crop up.
Yep I like that. Sounds an interesting left field call. I suspect he might be too outspoken or controversial for Sharon though.

Iles seems to suggest that it’s unlikely to be someone in a job due to timescales which I think is just a musing but one I’d probably concur with unless Sharon will delay an appointment to end of the season and go with a temporary fix.

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Re: The ianevattable sacking

Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Jan 22, 2025 11:06 am

Some reflective points:

There have been rumours circling the club for months, if not years, about gambling addiction (Where did that £100k loan in the accounts to a ‘Staff member’ go to?) and around affairs and a marriage break up. Losing a job on top of those things, if true, could have a serious impact on a person’s psychology and I’m genuinely saddened it hasn’t worked out for Evatt as well as us. You’d have to have a heart of stone not to see the human side of this, although I’m sure many won’t! I wish Evatt well and hope he finds some personal peace and can restart his career elsewhere.

Crainey has also gone. Is it too unkind to draw attention to the fact that once he joined us, an admittedly wobbling defence became much worse, whilst Wigan’s became almost impenetrable? I’d love to see the stats around that to make a judgement whether that’s cause and effect or coincidence…….or just my over active imagination.

Onwards and upwards. Is it too late to save the season? I suspect not, although the length of any deal offered to an incoming manager will be interesting. Do the board still see it as a long term project or do they want immediate results?
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