A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by DJBlu » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:07 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:04 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:02 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:00 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:58 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:57 pm
WTF has tat idiotic ref just done there???
Turned off, what did I miss?
Ref booked Morley (correctly), then invoked his own version of VAR and changed his mind and cancelled the yellow and sent him straight off ...
Hmmm, might be rescinded on appeal then.

Can't say I'm surprised. feck knows why these referees hate us.
They didn’t show a good angle but not sure what grounds we can appeal on unless there was clear cover in behind. Definite foul and player was running through on goal. I think there was probably cover but not that would render a clear mistake for an appeal.
If it's for the pull back then there were 2 other Bolton players back near the box. I think the letter of the law is a clear goal scoring opportunity.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Mar » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:11 pm

DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:07 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:04 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:02 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:00 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:58 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:57 pm
WTF has tat idiotic ref just done there???
Turned off, what did I miss?
Ref booked Morley (correctly), then invoked his own version of VAR and changed his mind and cancelled the yellow and sent him straight off ...
Hmmm, might be rescinded on appeal then.

Can't say I'm surprised. feck knows why these referees hate us.
They didn’t show a good angle but not sure what grounds we can appeal on unless there was clear cover in behind. Definite foul and player was running through on goal. I think there was probably cover but not that would render a clear mistake for an appeal.
If it's for the pull back then there were 2 other Bolton players back near the box. I think the letter of the law is a clear goal scoring opportunity.
He had ages to get a shot off. Plenty of chance to score and he's not took it. Morley did foul but that was at the point of Sheehan coming across. Clear yellow, possible red. I suspect it'll stand knowing our luck.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:12 pm

Wasn't sure about that. The pull had already occurred when Sheehan went past, if you were counting him...

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:13 pm

Mar wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:11 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:07 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:04 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:02 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:00 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:58 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:57 pm
WTF has tat idiotic ref just done there???
Turned off, what did I miss?
Ref booked Morley (correctly), then invoked his own version of VAR and changed his mind and cancelled the yellow and sent him straight off ...
Hmmm, might be rescinded on appeal then.

Can't say I'm surprised. feck knows why these referees hate us.
They didn’t show a good angle but not sure what grounds we can appeal on unless there was clear cover in behind. Definite foul and player was running through on goal. I think there was probably cover but not that would render a clear mistake for an appeal.
If it's for the pull back then there were 2 other Bolton players back near the box. I think the letter of the law is a clear goal scoring opportunity.
He had ages to get a shot off. Plenty of chance to score and he's not took it. Morley did foul but that was at the point of Sheehan coming across. Clear yellow, possible red. I suspect it'll stand knowing our luck.
Linesman gave the red. Appeal has to be a clear mistake and looked a goal scoring opportunity denied. They won’t overturn a marginal decision - I think Sheehan got back in after the foul personally.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Mar » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:15 pm

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Wasn't sure about that. The pull had already occurred when Sheehan went past, if you were counting him...
I was as you could see him coming across when he's going to ground. Will have to watch it back, but I clearly remember Sheehan in the picture.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:16 pm

Thomason WTF he needs another Longridge loan next season, another very poor performance today & Sheehan I honestly can't see the point, he's an absolute passenger.

Top 6 this lot....my arse.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

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30 touches in the oppositions box and only 4 shots on target.

I think the phrase is, "fecking hit it".

3 losses on the bounce now and I can't see us getting anything on Tuesday. The old ugly truth is rearing it's head.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:18 pm

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Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:16 pm
Thomason WTF he needs another Longridge loan next season, another very poor performance today & Sheehan I honestly can't see the point, he's an absolute passenger.

Top 6 this lot....my arse.
We spent a million quid on Randall. I’m not sure there has been a worse signing in our history. Lad is an embarrassment. I’d send him to a primary school side as I suspect even that would be too physical for him.

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Post by Mar » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:20 pm

It didn't seem like we were going for the jugular. Very much felt Evatt esque. You know the script, work the ball around the box and then pass it when the chance arises.

Shouldve been 2-2, at least. That CMG chance should've gone in.

Any club that studied Evatt's style of play would've been able to do what Blackpool did today. I like Schuey, but that performance was scarily reminiscent of Evatt's style of play.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by DJBlu » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:28 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:13 pm
Mar wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:11 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:07 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:04 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:02 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:00 pm
DJBlu wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:58 pm
dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:57 pm
WTF has tat idiotic ref just done there???
Turned off, what did I miss?
Ref booked Morley (correctly), then invoked his own version of VAR and changed his mind and cancelled the yellow and sent him straight off ...
Hmmm, might be rescinded on appeal then.

Can't say I'm surprised. feck knows why these referees hate us.
They didn’t show a good angle but not sure what grounds we can appeal on unless there was clear cover in behind. Definite foul and player was running through on goal. I think there was probably cover but not that would render a clear mistake for an appeal.
If it's for the pull back then there were 2 other Bolton players back near the box. I think the letter of the law is a clear goal scoring opportunity.
He had ages to get a shot off. Plenty of chance to score and he's not took it. Morley did foul but that was at the point of Sheehan coming across. Clear yellow, possible red. I suspect it'll stand knowing our luck.
Linesman gave the red. Appeal has to be a clear mistake and looked a goal scoring opportunity denied. They won’t overturn a marginal decision - I think Sheehan got back in after the foul personally.
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Not a video just a screen shot.

CMG is already near the box and Sheehan gets close to the lad in the centre circle before he gets to the 18 yard area.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:31 pm

Mar wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:20 pm
It didn't seem like we were going for the jugular. Very much felt Evatt esque. You know the script, work the ball around the box and then pass it when the chance arises.

Shouldve been 2-2, at least. That CMG chance should've gone in.

Any club that studied Evatt's style of play would've been able to do what Blackpool did today. I like Schuey, but that performance was scarily reminiscent of Evatt's style of play.
It was 100% an Evatt like performance, 71% possession, tippy tappy sideways & backwards crab football - no real threat upfront. We had the new manager bounce for a few games and now the players have reverted to type.

We desperately needed a goal and who have we got as a saviour to step up from the bench 'Etete'.

I know he can't until we are mathematically out of the top 6, but I'd love Schumacher to come out and 'say it as it is' about the teams poor mentality, lack of leaders, lack of bottle etc. and what needs addressing next season.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:33 pm

I would use the Wigan game as a public cry to tell the players that they are playing for their shirts and futures at the club. Find out who responds and can deal with the pressure of this club and who can’t. Top 6 is over but four defeats in a row and three to local teams at this level is and has to be regarded as absolutely rock bottom so must be avoided and every player has to be under immense pressure from their own pride let alone external factors. The fans are going to be at them and rightly so. The players haven’t shown the mentality and work ethic that Bolton wanderers demands.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:47 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:02 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:59 pm
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Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:42 pm
We need a summer and we need a lot of personnel changes. People keep letting this team flatter to deceive but there is a consistent pattern with them. When it really matters they revert to type and lose.

Lack of bottle. Lack of physicality and lack of real grit.

Three defeats in a row if thats what this becomes at this level for Bolton wanderers is shocking. Blackpool aren’t that good either. We are I’m afraid nowhere near promotion with these players. Nowhere near. And won’t be next season unless Schuey is properly backed. And Sharon has only herself to blame for this. So she better rustle up some investors.
This - it's so obvious to many, a complete clear out is required in the summer, its been another Evatt like performance.

There isn't any one player that I would be gutted if they left, they could all go every fecking one of them - they are all just so spineless & mentality weak - I actually feel sorry for Schumacher inheriting this bag of shite.

but, but, but we beat Birmingham....! at least Dave will be happy with his heroes.
Have no issue with Baxter. Johnstone. Collins. Morley. Cogley. We build round those. The rest I’m afraid aren’t it in the main. Sorry but that’s just the reality. We’ve spent a lot of money on some of these players and a few are beyond a disgrace for the fee we spent.
I'd agree with Baxter, Morley & Dempsey (and Santos if he can get his head back in the game), maybe Collins but I'm not sure - he's a good player who scores goals but he goes missing in games like several of the players, if he would play like he did 2nd half against Orient the other week when he ran the show he'd be a absolute shoe in, but he does hide in games.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by dave the minion » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:47 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:59 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:42 pm
We need a summer and we need a lot of personnel changes. People keep letting this team flatter to deceive but there is a consistent pattern with them. When it really matters they revert to type and lose.

Lack of bottle. Lack of physicality and lack of real grit.

Three defeats in a row if thats what this becomes at this level for Bolton wanderers is shocking. Blackpool aren’t that good either. We are I’m afraid nowhere near promotion with these players. Nowhere near. And won’t be next season unless Schuey is properly backed. And Sharon has only herself to blame for this. So she better rustle up some investors.
This - it's so obvious to many, a complete clear out is required in the summer, its been another Evatt like performance.

There isn't any one player that I would be gutted if they left, they could all go every fecking one of them - they are all just so spineless & mentality weak - I actually feel sorry for Schumacher inheriting this bag of shite.

but, but, but we beat Birmingham....! at least Dave will be happy with his heroes.
FFS. Please grow up will you.

We didn't play badly today - a couple of sloppy goals against and not clinical enough up top.

Same old same old.

These are good players who've largely proved it recently (until the last 3, obvs...).

They are not my heroes, but they are the players who play for my team, and as such I will support them until the start to deliberately play badly or throw the towel in.

And despite a couple on here being desperate to criticise and hate them at every opportunity, I don't see any evidence of them giving up

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by DJBlu » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:51 pm

Dion Charles was in the away end apparently. Doubt his employers are going to be happy.

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Post by Bertie Wooster » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:54 pm

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Dion Charles was in the away end apparently. Doubt his employers are going to be happy.
Yes a few pics with BWFC fans doing the rounds.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:57 pm

dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:47 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:59 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:42 pm
We need a summer and we need a lot of personnel changes. People keep letting this team flatter to deceive but there is a consistent pattern with them. When it really matters they revert to type and lose.

Lack of bottle. Lack of physicality and lack of real grit.

Three defeats in a row if thats what this becomes at this level for Bolton wanderers is shocking. Blackpool aren’t that good either. We are I’m afraid nowhere near promotion with these players. Nowhere near. And won’t be next season unless Schuey is properly backed. And Sharon has only herself to blame for this. So she better rustle up some investors.
This - it's so obvious to many, a complete clear out is required in the summer, its been another Evatt like performance.

There isn't any one player that I would be gutted if they left, they could all go every fecking one of them - they are all just so spineless & mentality weak - I actually feel sorry for Schumacher inheriting this bag of shite.

but, but, but we beat Birmingham....! at least Dave will be happy with his heroes.
FFS. Please grow up will you.

We didn't play badly today - a couple of sloppy goals against and not clinical enough up top.

Same old same old.

These are good players who've largely proved it recently (until the last 3, obvs...).

They are not my heroes, but they are the players who play for my team, and as such I will support them until the start to deliberately play badly or throw the towel in.

And despite a couple on here being desperate to criticise and hate them at every opportunity, I don't see any evidence of them giving up
They are mid table in league one. And consistently have bottled the big games especially when we have half a chance of something. Surely nobody will be sad to see the back of a lot of them? They are hardly heroes are they? Cost a lot too. Either their mentality is poor or they aren’t good enough. But not sure it matters much which.

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Post by Worthy4England » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:09 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:18 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:16 pm
Thomason WTF he needs another Longridge loan next season, another very poor performance today & Sheehan I honestly can't see the point, he's an absolute passenger.

Top 6 this lot....my arse.
We spent a million quid on Randall. I’m not sure there has been a worse signing in our history. Lad is an embarrassment. I’d send him to a primary school side as I suspect even that would be too physical for him.
You didn't have Dan very high up the list. :-) We are, where we are, type of bollocks. We need Schumacher to do some work in summer, methinks.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by Worthy4England » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:12 pm

dave the minion wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:47 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:59 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:42 pm
We need a summer and we need a lot of personnel changes. People keep letting this team flatter to deceive but there is a consistent pattern with them. When it really matters they revert to type and lose.

Lack of bottle. Lack of physicality and lack of real grit.

Three defeats in a row if thats what this becomes at this level for Bolton wanderers is shocking. Blackpool aren’t that good either. We are I’m afraid nowhere near promotion with these players. Nowhere near. And won’t be next season unless Schuey is properly backed. And Sharon has only herself to blame for this. So she better rustle up some investors.
This - it's so obvious to many, a complete clear out is required in the summer, its been another Evatt like performance.

There isn't any one player that I would be gutted if they left, they could all go every fecking one of them - they are all just so spineless & mentality weak - I actually feel sorry for Schumacher inheriting this bag of shite.

but, but, but we beat Birmingham....! at least Dave will be happy with his heroes.
FFS. Please grow up will you.

We didn't play badly today - a couple of sloppy goals against and not clinical enough up top.

Same old same old.

These are good players who've largely proved it recently (until the last 3, obvs...).

They are not my heroes, but they are the players who play for my team, and as such I will support them until the start to deliberately play badly or throw the towel in.

And despite a couple on here being desperate to criticise and hate them at every opportunity, I don't see any evidence of them giving up
Sorry DTM, the combination of "didn't play badly" and "couple of goals conceded" is a non-starter. This isn't cubs football.

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Re: A tall order. Away to Blackpool , Saturday Mar 29th 3-0' clock.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:12 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:09 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:18 pm
Bertie Wooster wrote:
Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:16 pm
Thomason WTF he needs another Longridge loan next season, another very poor performance today & Sheehan I honestly can't see the point, he's an absolute passenger.

Top 6 this lot....my arse.
We spent a million quid on Randall. I’m not sure there has been a worse signing in our history. Lad is an embarrassment. I’d send him to a primary school side as I suspect even that would be too physical for him.
You didn't have Dan very high up the list. :-) We are, where we are, type of bollocks. We need Schumacher to do some work in summer, methinks.
Dan was a worse decision given we’d seen him close up but as he cost less I feel Randall just edges him out. Honestly what was going on when they thought ‘what we need is another weak as piss pass it on bottlejob?’

Must have been living in cloud cuckoo land. We are desperate for some power. Imagine a lad in midfield who just wants to power through and put their foot through a shot rather than dance round a challenge nutmeg themselves, do five drag backs in a row before passing it 6ft behind the man.

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