Schu me the way to Amarillo - Summer 2025 Transfer Thread

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Who would you like to see stay next season

Baxter
6
2%
Conway
19
7%
Forrester
21
7%
Johnston
11
4%
Dacres-Cogley
20
7%
Osei-Tutu
19
7%
Dempsey
17
6%
Mendes Gomes
7
2%
Adeboyejo
3
1%
Nlundulu
0
No votes
Toal
23
8%
Forino
22
8%
Sheehan
13
5%
Thomason
20
7%
Morley
25
9%
Schon
17
6%
Collins
19
7%
Lolos
0
No votes
McAtee
12
4%
Randall
12
4%
 
Total votes: 286

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:13 pm

jmjhb wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:18 pm
Actually wasn't who I was expecting, a welcome addition though. Might need to bear with for the other mentioned in my previous post.
Didn’t you technically mention two? The one you were expecting and another one being delayed?

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Post by sonicthewhite » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:48 pm

Back to the Collins rumour. If it is true that we'd be willing to sell him, then I'd rather the club buy his replacement before we sell him. I'd rather not take the chance of selling him then finding out we can't get the replacement we want.
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Post by nicholaldo » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:57 pm

sonicthewhite wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:48 pm
Back to the Collins rumour. If it is true that we'd be willing to sell him, then I'd rather the club buy his replacement before we sell him. I'd rather not take the chance of selling him then finding out we can't get the replacement we want.

I'm not sure we - or any club really - has quite that much control of a transfer window. Sometimes deals have to be done when they're available to be done.
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Post by Prufrock » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:58 pm

Collins out would be madness. But that LW is maybe the best slot for McAtee? Feck knows what he is though.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:44 pm

Prufrock wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:58 pm
Collins out would be madness. But that LW is maybe the best slot for McAtee? Feck knows what he is though.
He isn’t a winger. Maybe he’s a 10, albeit more of a “split striker” than a creative genius.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:38 pm

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Post by Spartan2 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:12 am

I'm loving these signings, exactly what we need. We've improved massively already IMO. Still a long way to go, but these signings feel right for whatever that's worth. Getting rid of Collins would be another masterstroke, especially if we use his fee to pay off most of the other half-hearted, talentless bastards we've acquired at great cost under the last pratt. It's looking good so far.

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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:13 am

When things were going well Collins was great.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:17 am

From Iles in the BN…
It appears Schumacher’s plans to change the playing style and shape at Wanderers mean that there could be a knock-on effect for the club’s surplus of secondary strikers and ‘number 10s’ – and that Collins, John McAtee, Joel Randall and Klaidi Lolos may not be guaranteed the same amount of game time as they got last season.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:28 am

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... en-summer/

Good opinion price from MI today more or less reflecting what I’ve been saying. You can’t really turn the situation around without selling some players. We don’t need a minor tweak it’s a major overhaul. As he says tinkering round the edges won’t cut it.

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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:37 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:17 am
From Iles in the BN…
It appears Schumacher’s plans to change the playing style and shape at Wanderers mean that there could be a knock-on effect for the club’s surplus of secondary strikers and ‘number 10s’ – and that Collins, John McAtee, Joel Randall and Klaidi Lolos may not be guaranteed the same amount of game time as they got last season.
It feels like that shouldn't be any sort of news.

In part because guarantee and game time shouldn't sit in the same sentence unless no, precedes guarantee.

But I think the other thing that gets me about it is how dumb and over engineered it all sounds. To this day, I could barely tell you what position that collection of wet wipes actually play. Nailing their position is like trying to find the Higgs boson and the fact that there are multiple posts about most that start with the phrase "I think X would be better/best as a [insert some bizarre position here - maybe a trequartista or some such]." If it isn't pretty obvious (odd poor game aside which everyone has) why you're stood on the turf and what you need to do whilst you're stood there, then you might as well be the car park attendant for all the value you're adding.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:49 am

I for one would be quite happy to see Collins go. I think he's emblematic of the issues of the last couple seasons. For sure, we'd miss his ability to score out of nothing, but for too much of the time his contribution is more Dan than SKD. Goes missing far too often. I'd rather reliability and steady supply of goals than what we've seen from him.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:00 am

Worthy4England wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:37 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:17 am
From Iles in the BN…
It appears Schumacher’s plans to change the playing style and shape at Wanderers mean that there could be a knock-on effect for the club’s surplus of secondary strikers and ‘number 10s’ – and that Collins, John McAtee, Joel Randall and Klaidi Lolos may not be guaranteed the same amount of game time as they got last season.
It feels like that shouldn't be any sort of news.

In part because guarantee and game time shouldn't sit in the same sentence unless no, precedes guarantee.

But I think the other thing that gets me about it is how dumb and over engineered it all sounds. To this day, I could barely tell you what position that collection of wet wipes actually play. Nailing their position is like trying to find the Higgs boson and the fact that there are multiple posts about most that start with the phrase "I think X would be better/best as a [insert some bizarre position here - maybe a trequartista or some such]." If it isn't pretty obvious (odd poor game aside which everyone has) why you're stood on the turf and what you need to do whilst you're stood there, then you might as well be the car park attendant for all the value you're adding.
I might be kinder and say I’ve been saying for a while that none of these players fit into a 433/4231/4 at back with some width somewhere system. None.

But it’s pretty obvious they don’t. And I said earlier in the summer when discussing systems that it was my concern with going to a back four. But maybe that’s the outcome. Move them (or whichever ones we can) on and still change the system.

The problem with their recruitment as you say is that I don’t think any really do have a role in modern football systems - none are that good as a number 10 you have to play them there. Indeed I think the number 10 role is a bit of a myth. It’s a second striker. Or nowt.

But none of them really fit. Can’t play up top on their own. None are really wide forwards - they couldn’t be further from stelios/diouf if they tried and none are gutsy attacking mids who will get double figures arriving into the box late.

I’d say all to an extent are luxury players you carry more than they carry you.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:49 am
I for one would be quite happy to see Collins go. I think he's emblematic of the issues of the last couple seasons. For sure, we'd miss his ability to score out of nothing, but for too much of the time his contribution is more Dan than SKD. Goes missing far too often. I'd rather reliability and steady supply of goals than what we've seen from him.
Coming round to this view now. Seeing the sorts we are recruiting and the likely system change and I mean Collins is hardly a full effort every game type I think it makes sense.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:15 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:01 am
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:49 am
I for one would be quite happy to see Collins go. I think he's emblematic of the issues of the last couple seasons. For sure, we'd miss his ability to score out of nothing, but for too much of the time his contribution is more Dan than SKD. Goes missing far too often. I'd rather reliability and steady supply of goals than what we've seen from him.
Coming round to this view now. Seeing the sorts we are recruiting and the likely system change and I mean Collins is hardly a full effort every game type I think it makes sense.
I think we've relied too much on DIon and Collins to score the last few seasons. The midfield and defence haven't contributed much in terms of goals for (they've certainly contributed much to goals against :lol: ). I'm happy to have moderate scoring forwards like SKD, if they help make the team work and the rest of the team are reliably chipping in with goals. It feels like we'll be more solid and we haven't touched defence yet :D

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Post by The_Gun » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:10 am

Pete O'Rourke reports that the Sharman-Lowe deal is done, although I guess because he's currently in Slovakia with the 21s that might not get announced yet.

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Post by The_Gun » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:16 am

State of play lineup with Simons and TSL included, and Collins still just about here.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:21 am

The_Gun wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:16 am
State of play lineup with Simons and TSL included, and Collins still just about here.

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Thomason for Randall without a shadow of doubt. And I suspect Forino with Toal. Johnstone left back as it stands.

We will go for a big physical team not a bunch of midgets.

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Post by KeyserSoze » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:36 am

POR of FI says BWFC have agreed a deal for TSL.

https://www.footballinsider247.com/excl ... rman-lowe/

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Post by The_Gun » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:38 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:21 am
The_Gun wrote:
Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:16 am
State of play lineup with Simons and TSL included, and Collins still just about here.

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Thomason for Randall without a shadow of doubt. And I suspect Forino with Toal. Johnstone left back as it stands.

We will go for a big physical team not a bunch of midgets.
I don't want Thomason that far forward.

I strongly suspect that if Randall shows up in good shape and with a good attitude he will be given every chance. He's got some pace, the ability to pick a pass and can finish, and we also spunked loads of cash on him.

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