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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
13
41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:59 pm

All the Brexit negotiators were Brexiteers. They delivered a 'harder Brexit' than the promises that turned out to be suggestions on the day after the vote. Dunno what you're moaning about, you got a more Brexity Brexit than you voted for. You should be dancing with joy Hobes.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:30 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:54 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:33 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:38 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:39 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:17 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:31 am
Sir flip has flopped again, it would be amusing except for the consequences of these actions, mind, the Tories should put a lid on any gloating, they had plenty of time to call a public inquiry.
Oh and doesn't 'up her own with self importance' Rachel from accounts look even stupider than she is by refusing to apologise for calling out those wanting an inquiry as, 'jumping on a far right bandwagon', and that child, lucy Powell, should be sent back to primary school.

Like it or not all you head in the sand socialists, Reform are looking the only option right now.
Please enlighten me as to what they are proposing to actually do that would make them an 'option'? Because all I've heard is lots of noise and stuff that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny from a 5 year old.
Would you seriously tell everyone your plans, all costed etc. so far from an election so they could be nicked by 2tier and his mob?
We're still waiting for their plan for Brexit. The vote was 9 years ago!
Anyone with half a brain knows that the democratic majority who voted to leave were betrayed by the weeping, wailing, need their nanny remainers who bent over and touched their toes for the nearly always wrong, two faced little Napoleon in France aided by the handout boys in Spain.
There you go, the worst two enemies of thd UK over the centuries.
We could, if we had the right government, give these two a whole lot of grief.
The Germans and others are far more pragmatic.
The agreement was negotiated by David Frost, no? Not a noted remainer...

Coming up 10 years next year and given you lot are suggesting you have half a brain, maybe one of the millions could tell us what it looks like, rather than what it isn't? No? Thought not....
And you seriously think Frost and his team had complete freedom to negotiate? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:30 pm

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:59 pm
All the Brexit negotiators were Brexiteers. They delivered a 'harder Brexit' than the promises that turned out to be suggestions on the day after the vote. Dunno what you're moaning about, you got a more Brexity Brexit than you voted for. You should be dancing with joy Hobes.
See above :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:42 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:30 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:54 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:33 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:38 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:39 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:17 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:31 am
Sir flip has flopped again, it would be amusing except for the consequences of these actions, mind, the Tories should put a lid on any gloating, they had plenty of time to call a public inquiry.
Oh and doesn't 'up her own with self importance' Rachel from accounts look even stupider than she is by refusing to apologise for calling out those wanting an inquiry as, 'jumping on a far right bandwagon', and that child, lucy Powell, should be sent back to primary school.

Like it or not all you head in the sand socialists, Reform are looking the only option right now.
Please enlighten me as to what they are proposing to actually do that would make them an 'option'? Because all I've heard is lots of noise and stuff that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny from a 5 year old.
Would you seriously tell everyone your plans, all costed etc. so far from an election so they could be nicked by 2tier and his mob?
We're still waiting for their plan for Brexit. The vote was 9 years ago!
Anyone with half a brain knows that the democratic majority who voted to leave were betrayed by the weeping, wailing, need their nanny remainers who bent over and touched their toes for the nearly always wrong, two faced little Napoleon in France aided by the handout boys in Spain.
There you go, the worst two enemies of thd UK over the centuries.
We could, if we had the right government, give these two a whole lot of grief.
The Germans and others are far more pragmatic.
The agreement was negotiated by David Frost, no? Not a noted remainer...

Coming up 10 years next year and given you lot are suggesting you have half a brain, maybe one of the millions could tell us what it looks like, rather than what it isn't? No? Thought not....
And you seriously think Frost and his team had complete freedom to negotiate? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just let us know exactly where his hands were tied, instead of vague notional speculation. Should be an easy ask as anyone who isn't dumb can see it...

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:01 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:42 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:30 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 7:54 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Tue Jun 17, 2025 6:33 pm
Worthy4England wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:38 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:39 pm
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:17 pm
Hoboh wrote:
Mon Jun 16, 2025 7:31 am
Sir flip has flopped again, it would be amusing except for the consequences of these actions, mind, the Tories should put a lid on any gloating, they had plenty of time to call a public inquiry.
Oh and doesn't 'up her own with self importance' Rachel from accounts look even stupider than she is by refusing to apologise for calling out those wanting an inquiry as, 'jumping on a far right bandwagon', and that child, lucy Powell, should be sent back to primary school.

Like it or not all you head in the sand socialists, Reform are looking the only option right now.
Please enlighten me as to what they are proposing to actually do that would make them an 'option'? Because all I've heard is lots of noise and stuff that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny from a 5 year old.
Would you seriously tell everyone your plans, all costed etc. so far from an election so they could be nicked by 2tier and his mob?
We're still waiting for their plan for Brexit. The vote was 9 years ago!
Anyone with half a brain knows that the democratic majority who voted to leave were betrayed by the weeping, wailing, need their nanny remainers who bent over and touched their toes for the nearly always wrong, two faced little Napoleon in France aided by the handout boys in Spain.
There you go, the worst two enemies of thd UK over the centuries.
We could, if we had the right government, give these two a whole lot of grief.
The Germans and others are far more pragmatic.
The agreement was negotiated by David Frost, no? Not a noted remainer...

Coming up 10 years next year and given you lot are suggesting you have half a brain, maybe one of the millions could tell us what it looks like, rather than what it isn't? No? Thought not....
And you seriously think Frost and his team had complete freedom to negotiate? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Just let us know exactly where his hands were tied, instead of vague notional speculation. Should be an easy ask as anyone who isn't dumb can see it...
Ok, so Maybot simply went along with negation and didn't stick her nose in along with her remaniac advisors whilst creeping to European leaders?
Churchill wannabe Johnson, aided by his little green , EU loving Carrie whispering in his ear went along unfazed and didn't poke his nose in?
The Irish squealing away about borders helped didn't it?
And, finally that wannabe influencer and her legal challenges had no bearing.
Yeah, only the dumb don't recognise these interference.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:21 pm

^^What specifics were negotiable in a deal that we didn’t get? Frost described it as a great deal.

He and Johnson negotiated the deal as Brexiteers and indeed the Gibraltar border arrangements were a Frost and Johnson plan that couldn’t be implemented as they were too useless to get it over the line.

But you need to give specifics as to what could have been negotiated that wasn’t in the deal.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Jun 18, 2025 5:26 pm

It's almost like the word negotiation implies there's more than one party and some things you agree on, others you don't...

Dunno, I'll have to ask the people with half a brain...

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