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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Mar 05, 2025 12:31 pm

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Regarding Etete, where exactly is he at? Seems awfully quiet. We could use another big striker
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... -loan-man/

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Mar 06, 2025 4:31 pm

Forrester may or may not be back for Burton; we'll decide tomorrow.

Rico back training with the group but "we're going to have to keep building him up over the next few weeks."

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... bion-trip/

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:34 pm

George Johnston will miss the Stockport game.

Kyle Dempsey, Ricardo Santos and Kion Etete all took part in a full, "really high-intensity" [Schumacher] training session. They might take part in a B team game scheduled for next weekend, when we're on the international break (but games that do go ahead include Wrexham-Stockport and Posh-Charlton).

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Post by The_Gun » Thu Mar 13, 2025 7:28 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Thu Mar 13, 2025 6:34 pm
George Johnston will miss the Stockport game.

Kyle Dempsey, Ricardo Santos and Kion Etete all took part in a full, "really high-intensity" [Schumacher] training session. They might take part in a B team game scheduled for next weekend, when we're on the international break (but games that do go ahead include Wrexham-Stockport and Posh-Charlton).
Argh, that’s a big blow.

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Post by TonyDomingos » Tue Mar 18, 2025 5:31 pm

Total has pulled out of the NI squad due to an unspecified injury ....

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... and-squad/
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:36 pm

Buried in a tweet reply, Iles reveals Dempsey is out for "a few months".
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:53 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:36 pm
Buried in a tweet reply, Iles reveals Dempsey is out for "a few months".
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Oh dear. Dempsey is definitely one we need to move on now - obvs can’t if injured. But he’s a busted flush now. More time injured than playing.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:37 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:53 pm
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Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:36 pm
Buried in a tweet reply, Iles reveals Dempsey is out for "a few months".
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Oh dear. Dempsey is definitely one we need to move on now - obvs can’t if injured. But he’s a busted flush now. More time injured than playing.
Yeah, sadly. Not sure in terms of time, but an Ilesy piece last night said he’d started 81 of a possible 194 games since his debut.

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Post by truewhite15 » Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:43 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 4:37 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:53 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Wed Jun 18, 2025 3:36 pm
Buried in a tweet reply, Iles reveals Dempsey is out for "a few months".
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Oh dear. Dempsey is definitely one we need to move on now - obvs can’t if injured. But he’s a busted flush now. More time injured than playing.
Yeah, sadly. Not sure in terms of time, but an Ilesy piece last night said he’d started 81 of a possible 194 games since his debut.
I'll confess I'd forgotten about Demps when I was looking into our current 11 and back ups the other day. That's probably why though - he's spent the vast majority of the last two years out injured. When he's not crocked, he's got a good engine and he's good on the ball. But he just can't stay fit.

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Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:49 am

I like Dempsey, he has guts and gives us some drive, something we've often needed being a goal down when he's come on as a sub.

But.......no room for sentiment, he's a continual sick note. Id be tempted to deregister, then ship him out on loan in January, if he's fit again. Presumably,vwe can do that within the rules?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:53 am

Bijou Bob wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:49 am
I like Dempsey, he has guts and gives us some drive, something we've often needed being a goal down when he's come on as a sub.

But.......no room for sentiment, he's a continual sick note. Id be tempted to deregister, then ship him out on loan in January, if he's fit again. Presumably,vwe can do that within the rules?
Perfectly legal. You can contract and pay as many players as you like; up to you how many you don't bother to register per competition.

That said, Ilesy's morning piece:
• says Demps is "out of action until September" (Schuey said "out for a few months")
• quotes Schumacher on Adeboyejo "we'll probably see him October-November time"
https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/2 ... re-season/
The piece goes into Schumacher's determination to have a more robust squad; we've heard that before but maybe the new brooms will work differently.

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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jun 19, 2025 10:55 am

Bijou Bob wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:49 am
I like Dempsey, he has guts and gives us some drive, something we've often needed being a goal down when he's come on as a sub.

But.......no room for sentiment, he's a continual sick note. Id be tempted to deregister, then ship him out on loan in January, if he's fit again. Presumably,vwe can do that within the rules?
We still have a fair old few in that bucket.

Toal, Vic also pretty high on the injury prone index...

What I might suggest given the fact we've not just shipped Dan (and I don't suspect he's the highest paid player), is that we're not looking to pay our way out of cutting losses...

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:27 am

Before last season, Toal wasn't a "niggly absence" kinda guy.

His first injury absence was after the Cosgrove assault on his ankle (Apr 2023) - and he was back playing 27 days later.

He missed the start of 23/24 with an ankle problem (related?) but other than that only international and suspensions kept him out.

This last season was a war-zone, though. Thigh (1 game) in August, concussion (2) in October, and then his hamstring problems kept him out for 10 games (Nov/Dec), another 8 in January, and then the final 9 in March-May. Even in the bit between those last two, he lost a game to 'stiffness' - and this was a Saturday game between two other Saturdays.

So yeah. Last season was awful for Toaly, but if he can get back to the first two seasons he's much more reliable.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:41 am

Toal I feel has mitigations for last season. He has no rear over the summer carried an injury in and never properly got fully fit.

See how he goes this time. His record prior seemed ok and he’s not old.

Dempsey I think has just hit that point in his career where injuries start catching up to you. One after another. Some players just end up like that. I don’t think he’s one you can carry though say how we did with Wheater. His style means he is either fit or doesn’t play.

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Post by TonyDomingos » Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:54 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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Toal I feel has mitigations for last season. He has no rear over the summer

The physios need to get to the bottom of that.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:09 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:54 am
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Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:41 am
Toal I feel has mitigations for last season. He has no rear over the summer

The physios need to get to the bottom of that.
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Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:29 pm

It was certainly a bummer of a season for him.

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Post by TonyDomingos » Thu Jun 19, 2025 3:36 pm

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It was certainly a bummer of a season for him.

He'd be no use on the town hall steps.
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Post by The_Gun » Fri Jun 20, 2025 11:34 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Jun 19, 2025 11:41 am
Toal I feel has mitigations for last season. He has no rear over the summer carried an injury in and never properly got fully fit.

See how he goes this time. His record prior seemed ok and he’s not old.

Dempsey I think has just hit that point in his career where injuries start catching up to you. One after another. Some players just end up like that. I don’t think he’s one you can carry though say how we did with Wheater. His style means he is either fit or doesn’t play.
I feel like Toal's injury-plagued season may have caused him to become underrated by some of our fanbase. For his first few seasons with us I would have rated him as one of our best players, and amongst the best centre backs in the divison. Assuming he's now over his injuries, he would be top of the pecking order to play the right-sided centre back role, for me.
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Post by Worthy4England » Fri Jun 20, 2025 12:34 pm

It's difficult not to underrate a colection of CBs who time and again allow free forwards in our 6 yard area and let the ball hit terra firma in the same sort of locations.

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