Car prone to skidding... Advice needed

Loyal White · Post by **Loyal White** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:34 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:Where do you need the garage to be

Maybe you can get somewhere recommended

Can get anywhere in Bolton or Bury (live in Bolton, work in Bury) really would be easier to go somewhere closer to home though.

Anyone recommend anywhere near Bradshaw?

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:01 pm

Crossply tyres pretty much stopped being made after the 70s, some readers clearly showing their age and a recollection of Public Informations Films featuring an Austin Maxi. So the chances of you having mixed crossply/radials is unlikely. Check the side wall of the tyres, it'll either say "radial" or have an R on them.

Skidding could be your driving - anyone claiming to be a "good driver" generally isn't half as good as they think. It could also be your tyre pressure, if they are over-inflated you will lose grip, same if under inflated. ABS doesn't stop skidding, it means you go in the direction you steer when you do.

Servicing picks up sod all, it's just the basics you car needs and nothing more.

Loyal White · Post by **Loyal White** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:12 pm

communistworkethic wrote:Crossply tyres pretty much stopped being made after the 70s, some readers clearly showing their age and a recollection of Public Informations Films featuring an Austin Maxi. So the chances of you having mixed crossply/radials is unlikely. Check the side wall of the tyres, it'll either say "radial" or have an R on them.

Skidding could be your driving - anyone claiming to be a "good driver" generally isn't half as good as they think. It could also be your tyre pressure, if they are over-inflated you will lose grip, same if under inflated. ABS doesn't stop skidding, it means you go in the direction you steer when you do.

Servicing picks up sod all, it's just the basics you car needs and nothing more.

I never said i'm good, i said I'm reasonable, don't claim to be anything more - it's just when you go skidding down a hill after not breaking that hard on a bit of water I start to question whats wrong!

Will check the tyre pressure as a few people have said that now, still needs to go in for someone to take a peek though. Just happens to be at wrong time of year as i'm skint now until payday.

Bench · Post by **Bench** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:15 pm

Perhaps it's your brakes? Just took my car to the dealership to have the front tires changed and they informed me that the front brake pads had worn down to almost nothing. You can imagine my consternation considering I had had a service only a month before at the same place!

Anyway, in the last month my car has been prone to the odd skid on braking. I too thought it was the tires as the tread was a bit low. Turns out it wasn't the tires!

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:31 pm

Bench wrote:.......... Just took my car to the dealership to have the front tires changed and they informed me ............... !

............ ............... Turns out it wasn't the tires!

TYRES, love ... TYRES !!

Once I could have coped with, but twice ?!?!?

communistworkethic · Post by **communistworkethic** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:32 pm

You don't skid with no brakes you just carry on driving. Skids occur because of loss of traction, in the scenario here the sheer volume of water could cause aqua-planing (but have we had that amount of rain?) or the brakes are hard on and the tyres are not gripping the road. Lack of grip can be various things - suspension could be fecked too.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:06 pm

Loyal White wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:Where do you need the garage to be

Maybe you can get somewhere recommended
Can get anywhere in Bolton or Bury (live in Bolton, work in Bury) really would be easier to go somewhere closer to home though.

Anyone recommend anywhere near Bradshaw?

Can do Darcy Lever for you, if thats any good

Listons in Harwood are OK, but i think they're only bodyshop

Then theres a 'working garage' on Longsight going up to the Nab Gate that was - same site as the car sales place. Unfortunately I've never used them, so can't direct you there

Lad in Darcy - down at the bottom of the dip, near the park entrance - is very good though

pm me if you want his number

Zulus Thousand of em · Post by **Zulus Thousand of em** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:37 pm

communistworkethic wrote:Crossply tyres pretty much stopped being made after the 70s, some readers clearly showing their age and a recollection of Public Informations Films featuring an Austin Maxi.

Ow! Crinklies have feelings too, you know!

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 9:44 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Bench wrote:.......... Just took my car to the dealership to have the front tires changed and they informed me ............... !

............ ............... Turns out it wasn't the tires!
TYRES, love ... TYRES !!

Once I could have coped with, but twice ?!?!?

Well, originally in England it was 'tire' (the wheel was attired) and remains so elsewhere in the English-Speaking world. The Oxfound English Dictionary has the following under Tire (noun 3)

b. An endless cushion of rubber, solid, hollow, or tubular, fitted (usually in combination with an inner tube filled with compressed air: cf. PNEUMATIC 1b) on the rim of a bicycle, tricycle, or motor-car; now also often upon the wheels of invalid and baby-carriages, and light horse vehicles. In this sense now commonly spelt tyre in Great Britain (see TYRE); tire is retained in America.

So "tyre" is now commonly used in GB, but Bench is clearly not a common individual.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:01 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Well, originally in England it was 'tire' (the wheel was attired) and remains so elsewhere in the English-Speaking world. The Oxfound English Dictionary has the following under Tire (noun 3)

presumably you all go down to "ye olde pie shoppe" as well, then??

this Indian Tyre manufacturer is called LKTyre.. http://www.jktyre.com/

and this one in Canada:

Canadian Tyres Ltd.

777 Upper James Street
Hamilton ON, L9C 3A1

Phone: 905-385-3276
Fax: 905-385-2855

Pirelli have tyres - (and calendars!)

but...

Dunlop and Goodyear have Tires... http://www.dunloptires.com/ American!!!!

how bloody confusing!!

Y'see the settlers took English over to America - but they took an old version - like Windows 3.1 Since then - we've moved onto English Vista...

superloop · Post by **superloop** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 10:09 pm

All this talk of getting the car check professionally is a good idea (tm)

However, there is whole heap of difference between braking in a car with ABS and one without. As most modern cars have ABS it can be quite a shock when you get in a car without it.

Drivers have a tendency to over brake in cars with ABS as they don't get the problem of dealing with a locked wheel or wheels (i.e. the wheel is not turning but is moving over the tarmac) more commonly known as a skid.

I suspect (but am happy to be wrong) that you just haven't had much experience of a small light car without ABS. I doubt that your car only has front brakes as was suggested earlier however most of the effective braking power is achieved by the front wheels. If the amount of braking is more than the friction (grip) the tire has on the road you get a skid.

Personally i would find yourself a big wide EMPTY road and try doing emergency stops. Make the car slow down as fast as you can without making it skid a load of times (in a straight line and don't start off a silly speed, start slow and work up) and get a feel for what your brakes do. You will surprised how much more feel you get from the brakes on a non ABS car. Once you know what your car does you will get used to how much pressure you can put on the brake peddle and you will be a much more effective "braker"

All in my own personal opinion and i am NOT advocating silly driving, if you do decide to get a feel for your brakes please do it safely - not being responsible for you crashing no way uh huh.

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:09 pm

thebish wrote:
and this one in Canada:

Canadian Tyres Ltd.

777 Upper James Street
Hamilton ON, L9C 3A1

Phone: 905-385-3276
Fax: 905-385-2855

Must be a typo by an ex-pat

- Canadian Tire is a massive franchise found all over the country (one of the 35 largest publicly traded co,panies in Canada).
See Wiki
So Canadian Tyres is probably a single local outfit trying to get business on the good name of Canadian Tire.

And my local pub is called Ye Olde Orcharde - so there.

CAPSLOCK · Post by **CAPSLOCK** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:38 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote: Must be a typo by an ex-pat - Canadian Tire is a massive franchise found all over the country (one of the 35 largest publicly traded co,panies in Canada).

Aye, they happen

Montreal Wanderer · Post by **Montreal Wanderer** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:14 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote: Must be a typo by an ex-pat - Canadian Tire is a massive franchise found all over the country (one of the 35 largest publicly traded co,panies in Canada).
Aye, they happen

Too often.

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:07 am

Gravedigger wrote:Just tell them Capslock, Gravedigger, Bobo the Clown, Norm the Jedi, Tango Dancer, Zulus, Thousands of 'em, sent you.

Best line of the lot.

Bravo.

Just imagine doing that ? You'd get carted off.

InsaneApache · Post by **InsaneApache** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:42 am

Just a note from another 'oldie' about skidding.

Caused by;

Harsh steering.

Harsh acceleration.

Harsh braking.

Driving to the prevalent conditions is always a good idea.

Still you should get the tYre pressures and brakes checked. You know it makes sense.

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:35 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote: Must be a typo by an ex-pat - Canadian Tire is a massive franchise found all over the country (one of the 35 largest publicly traded co,panies in Canada).
Aye, they happen

Indeed. They've missed an s off the end of Canadian, look.

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