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There ARE other teams(we'd have no-one to play otherwise) and here's where all-comers can discuss the wider world of football......

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:38 pm

Not Pompey, but dodgy dealings and Pompey is never far from saggy faced Twitch

Nice to see him bite today when 'gently ribbed' about being a fcuking bent bastard

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Post by Puskas » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:42 pm

They apparently want permission to flog their players now:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528, ... 69,00.html

Hmmm.....
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:01 pm

The answer is obviously no

It can't be owt else
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Post by Athers » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:04 pm

Indeed, it'd be unfair on everyone else were a club, in any league which operates with a transfer window, to buy someone off them.
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:08 pm

I'm not bothered about clubs gaining an advantage by signing them

Just Pompeys involvement

They have no right to bring in transfer funds outside the window

None whatsoever
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Post by Hoboh » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:10 pm

The Premier league should use some of the vast sums at their disposal to keep Pompy runing till season end so as not to distort the league! then sort it out.
If there are any financial irregularitiys people should be brought to book, overseas investors should be barred from any dealings with uk companys

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Post by Puskas » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:10 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:I'm not bothered about clubs gaining an advantage by signing them

Just Pompeys involvement

They have no right to bring in transfer funds outside the window

None whatsoever
Can't they sell players now, but keep the paperwork, so they remain Pompey players until the transfer window opens, then let them go?

That'd be within the current rules, wouldn't it? Essentially just making an agreement to transfer, and getting the fee in early.

But, obviously, the buying club would have absolutely no interest in that - unless they were sold particularly cheaply...
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:18 pm

Hobinho wrote:The Premier league should use some of the vast sums at their disposal to keep Pompy runing till season end so as not to distort the league! then sort it out.
If there are any financial irregularitiys people should be brought to book, overseas investors should be barred from any dealings with uk companys
Fcuking hell fire

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:20 pm

Puskas wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:I'm not bothered about clubs gaining an advantage by signing them

Just Pompeys involvement

They have no right to bring in transfer funds outside the window

None whatsoever
Can't they sell players now, but keep the paperwork, so they remain Pompey players until the transfer window opens, then let them go?

That'd be within the current rules, wouldn't it? Essentially just making an agreement to transfer, and getting the fee in early.

But, obviously, the buying club would have absolutely no interest in that - unless they were sold particularly cheaply...

Maybe

In fact, isn't the 'window' open in some parts of the world

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Post by Prufrock » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:39 pm

Puskas wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:I'm not bothered about clubs gaining an advantage by signing them

Just Pompeys involvement

They have no right to bring in transfer funds outside the window

None whatsoever
Can't they sell players now, but keep the paperwork, so they remain Pompey players until the transfer window opens, then let them go?

That'd be within the current rules, wouldn't it? Essentially just making an agreement to transfer, and getting the fee in early.

But, obviously, the buying club would have absolutely no interest in that - unless they were sold particularly cheaply...
They can sell them to other Premiership clubs, and those clubs can even register them as their own players. What they can't do is register them eligible to play in competitions until July. They could own their registration, pay their wages, have them train, even (I think) have them play in the reserves. As you say, cheapness is the only reason anyone would buy, unless from somewhere where the window is still open.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:57 pm

No-one in their right mind is going to pay a red cent to Pompey for their players to stop them going bust, because they'll get them free in the fire sale when they go bust anyway.

And they won't be able to play them, or afford their wages if they are in a league that will allow them to be played. I just want them to limp on to seasons end, so we don't lose 3 points.
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Post by FaninOz » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:34 pm

Hobinho wrote:The Premier league should use some of the vast sums at their disposal to keep Pompy runing till season end so as not to distort the league! then sort it out.
If there are any financial irregularitiys people should be brought to book, overseas investors should be barred from any dealings with uk companys
No the Club should be allowed to go into administration and if necessary out of business. If the Premiership used any funds to rescue Portsmouth that would be unfair to the other 19 clubs in the Premiership and the other 72 teams in the Leagues below. Similarly if they were give special dispensation with respect to transfers, it just can't be allowed to happen.

Corruption appears to be have been rife at Portsmouth over a number of years and an example needs to be set against the Club and all the people involved. So the Premiership should let it be so.

If not, any Club relegated at the expense of Portsmouth staying up would be able to claim Millions in damages against them and the Premiership. Back to Wham and Sheffield United I guess.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:37 pm

I'll repeat, from a purely selfish perspective,I'd like them to do anything it takes to avoid us losing 3 points. If that involves allowing them to transferplayers out,or lending them a bob or two so be it. The money can be recouped in the summer when they implode.
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Post by Tombwfc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:59 pm

FWIW, the league table if Pompey go bust now stands at....

14) Wigan - 25
15) Wolves - 24
16) Burnley - 23
17) Hull - 23
18) West Ham - 20
19) Bolton - 20

...and we'd lose an extra winnable home game. 16/18 points from 12 games?

So yeah, if this does get the go ahead, us and West Ham should sign half their squad for about £11.7mil.

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Post by Hoboh » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:12 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Hobinho wrote:The Premier league should use some of the vast sums at their disposal to keep Pompy runing till season end so as not to distort the league! then sort it out.
If there are any financial irregularitiys people should be brought to book, overseas investors should be barred from any dealings with uk companys
Fcuking hell fire

Where to start
It is purely for self preservation CAPS nowt else.

BTW I missed corrupt off the overseas investors sorry for any confusion I caused you there mate, its not your alzimers :mrgreen:

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Post by Dujon » Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:25 am

Damned if I can work out what's being going on down Pompey way - perhaps they should re-name the club Pompeii.

I really do feel for the club's fans though. After all it's not their fault that the smell of the bard's Denmark is wafting around the place.

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Post by Wandering Willy » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:15 am

Rename the club Portsmouth High Street Bank Fc.

Get government bail out.

Job done.

Simple.

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Post by as » Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:24 am

Surely they won't go under, surely not?

A club in the worlds richest and most popular league, raking in Sky TV money and the like, and they're on the brink of collapse?

Pulis was right, this whole foreign ownership fiasco needs sorting, the glory-hunters down't road were bought by some Americans, who borrowed money to make the purchase?! How the f**k did the PL allow that one through, Liverpool are in a similair situation too. Now, I'm aware that these two clubs would NEVER go bust, due to the amount of billionaire's who 'support' them, but it's saying something when those two global powerhouses are also in the s**t.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:10 am

The issue with United isn't that they borrowed money to buy it, its that they used the value of the club to secure their borrowing.
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Post by Athers » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:32 am

as wrote:Surely they won't go under, surely not?

A club in the worlds richest and most popular league, raking in Sky TV money and the like, and they're on the brink of collapse?

Pulis was right, this whole foreign ownership fiasco needs sorting, the glory-hunters down't road were bought by some Americans, who borrowed money to make the purchase?! How the f**k did the PL allow that one through, Liverpool are in a similair situation too. Now, I'm aware that these two clubs would NEVER go bust, due to the amount of billionaire's who 'support' them, but it's saying something when those two global powerhouses are also in the s**t.

Praise the lord for Eddie Davies, being a Bolton lad he’s not one for hogging the limelight (we’ve Peter Kay & Amir Khan for that) but he’s kept us afloat.
The fact that United and Liverpool are somewhat precarious must only hurt Pompey, as any 'generous' action from the Premier League can't be repeated if United suddenly ask for help at 20 times the scale.
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