Carling Cup 3rd Round - Burnley Away

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Post by norm the jedi » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:18 pm

Disappointed... but not as much as Northampton at Home.. or Chesterfield fer that matter..
Not over surprised 8 changes seldom does the trick..
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Post by truewhite15 » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:25 pm

Could be worse. We could be Everton.
I think the problem is "wholesale changes" this early in the season. The players still don't know each other well, they're still battling for fitness...we should be trying them in fits and starts with our regulars...
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Post by Mar » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:26 pm

Poor lineup IMO. Too much change to warrant a good attempt at the cup not only did we change 8 of the first 11 that started played Villa we also swapped our tactics.

We didn't go like for like, I can't see a real ballwinner in the team tonight and I don't think we had pace on either wing, which meant creativity down the middle. Sure this newboy is allegedly fast but what do we do with Klasnic who is also not the fastest player we have up front.

We didn't pay the cup enough respect and we got punished for it. I'd imagine a first team would've done wonders at Burnley tonight but with such a stark contrast to the style and players we end up biting the bullet and going out of the cup.

It's really sad as I thought Coyle would've been the man to get us up for games like this. Hopefully he's saving all his energies for the Man Utd game but at the minute it seems like an opportunity lost, especially considering the sort of runs he achieved whilst managing Burnley prior to their promotion.

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Post by jimbo » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:29 pm

Mar wrote:Poor lineup IMO. Too much change to warrant a good attempt at the cup not only did we change 8 of the first 11 that started played Villa we also swapped our tactics.

We didn't go like for like, I can't see a real ballwinner in the team tonight and I don't think we had pace on either wing, which meant creativity down the middle. Sure this newboy is allegedly fast but what do we do with Klasnic who is also not the fastest player we have up front.

We didn't pay the cup enough respect and we got punished for it. I'd imagine a first team would've done wonders at Burnley tonight but with such a stark contrast to the style and players we end up biting the bullet and going out of the cup.

It's really sad as I thought Coyle would've been the man to get us up for games like this. Hopefully he's saving all his energies for the Man Utd game but at the minute it seems like an opportunity lost, especially considering the sort of runs he achieved whilst managing Burnley prior to their promotion.
A run, I do believe, based on beating many better teams than ourselves at home. They have a knack of this sort of thing. Whether it's pampered footballers getting a shocked that there are people with less teeth than they have cars being so close to them or whatever, tonight was never going to be easy.

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:34 pm

Bob on there Mar. Coyle talked it up pre-season in his forum, about wanting a pop at the cup - but that line up was never going to beat a spirited Burnley tonight. Cohen were unfit. As was Klasnic. Blake - I didn't understand what role he played. Alonso and Moreno were a bit off pace and fitness of the game. I think given the extra days rest ahead of Sunday, we could have risked a bit more tonight.

Clattenburg, whilst he didn't ruin or change the game - was astonishingly poor. Missed some blatant, blatant decisions. And kept making up for shite decisions with gimmies - where he'd just blow for a nonesense foul just because he should've flagged goal kick rather than corner. Titwank.

And would love to know why we insisted on playing to Davo's strengths - when he weren't on the pitch. Won nowt in the air all night and never were. But Bogdan kept hesitating with his roll outs - so mustn't have been given instruction to do anything but punt it forward.

Davies had a good game - some really good midfield play and linked up well with the front players and Moreno. Ultimately not critical enough in the final third to win the game and didn't deserve a win unfortunately.

Glad I went. Cracking backing for Coyle.

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Post by hisroyalgingerness » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:36 pm

General Mannerheim wrote:Hell fire I feel crushed, totally never expected to lose that. Tell you what Burnley, you can have the useless t-totalling haggis shagging c*nt back! I'll take Laws. We were outplayed, outclassed, outpassed, outfought all over the pitch. I feel like I did in Lisbon, let's see how the rested darlings do against the DMBs on Sunday!?
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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:40 pm

Thought for the first 40 minutes the idea was good. Cohen, Davies and Blake were surprisingly bright with the ball, some good diagonals to the new Spanish Lad and Taylor. We seemed to just fall flat after the goal and completely run out of steam. It felt like I'd given the team talk at half time, ie "its only Burnley in the cup, who cares?".

No surprises, as always Clattenburg is a f*ckin awful ref.
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Post by General Mannerheim » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:04 pm

The support was immense, been a good while I've enjoyed a crowd like that, esp first half. Stood for 90 too, everyone was!

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:08 pm

Was a good crowd. S'pose no surprises given the obsession with Coyle round those parts, but I guess at our lot at around 3k ish?? Might also have had something to do with the prices, feel a bit less peeved with 15 sheets than say 25-30 that it could have been.
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Post by Athers » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:18 pm

Mark Davies looked quicker than I remember for a while the first half, also made some good passes..

Moreno is quick but looked like a typical young player on the wing in terms of decision making, to be expected.

Alonso - I thought did not play well sadly.

Of the first team we'd have Knight and Steinsson (and Ricketts as a stand in) so to lose 1-0 away at a top half Championship club in a fairly balanced contest is neither a surprise nor shameful once that XI have gone over the line.
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Post by H. Pedersen » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:32 pm

lonestar wrote:if this had happened 18 months ago there would have been cry's for the managers head coyle can do no wrong it seems
Fair enough. Coyle didn't get it right today.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:36 pm

Sorry to burst the bubble, but that was a far cry from Northampton at home.
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Post by Prufrock » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:42 pm

It's fine, we should probably call it quits now though, we're about equal right? I just hope the regrets don't affect Coyle too much as he prepares for a Premiership home game against Manchester United.
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Post by ClaretCharlie » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:44 pm

General Mannerheim wrote:Hell fire I feel crushed, totally never expected to lose that. Tell you what Burnley, you can have the useless t-totalling haggis shagging c*nt back! I'll take Laws. We were outplayed, outclassed, outpassed, outfought all over the pitch. I feel like I did in Lisbon, let's see how the rested darlings do against the DMBs on Sunday!?

Quality. Quoted it on Clarets Mad, hope you dont mind.

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:50 pm

The result is an irrelevance

However, the famed Coyle management style doesn't seem to be hitting the mark with Mr Klasnic
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Post by jaffka » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:51 pm

Looks like we have a Clarets Mad Spy.

How about you quote this, enjoy your league, IF you get promoted and stay as long as we have your priorities will change.

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:51 pm

ClaretCharlie wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:Hell fire I feel crushed, totally never expected to lose that. Tell you what Burnley, you can have the useless t-totalling haggis shagging c*nt back! I'll take Laws. We were outplayed, outclassed, outpassed, outfought all over the pitch. I feel like I did in Lisbon, let's see how the rested darlings do against the DMBs on Sunday!?

Quality. Quoted it on Clarets Mad, hope you dont mind.
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Post by ClaretCharlie » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:57 pm

wow. I came in peace... again.

Joined: 07 Jan 2010, Posts: 54 and not once have i been a prick but thanks for the unwarrented hostile reception though... makes me feel like Gary Megson and he's fairly rich thanks to the fee Bolton had to pay him.

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Post by ClaretCharlie » Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:59 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
ClaretCharlie wrote:
General Mannerheim wrote:Hell fire I feel crushed, totally never expected to lose that. Tell you what Burnley, you can have the useless t-totalling haggis shagging c*nt back! I'll take Laws. We were outplayed, outclassed, outpassed, outfought all over the pitch. I feel like I did in Lisbon, let's see how the rested darlings do against the DMBs on Sunday!?

Quality. Quoted it on Clarets Mad, hope you dont mind.
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:02 am

No worries

Impressed with your typing skills

It must be tricky........


Congratulations anyway...you'll be able to stick tonight up on your honours board
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