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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:00 am

Tombwfc wrote:Am I the only one that thinks he's a bit average?
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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:24 am

Odelay wrote:http://www.stuholden.com/2010/11/stu-ho ... ham-match/
Good interview with Holden. Like this guy more with every game. Amazing signing.
Ear flicking at training.

Good to see nothing changes. They'll be kneeing the back of people's knees and pushing players over the crouched body of someone behind them next.

Chinese burns & pulling leg hairs anybody ?



.... & Tom, really, yes, I suspect you may be. The lad's in great danger of being that creative midfielder we've spent years pining for.

But is he better than Veloso ? That's the real question.
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Post by thebish » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:47 am

bobo the clown wrote: .... & Tom, really, yes, I suspect you may be. The lad's in great danger of being that creative midfielder we've spent years pining for.
don't be ridiculous Bobo he cost us the square root of pretty much feck-all - how could he possibly be the talismanic ambitious creative midfield tiara purchase that will bring back the glory years?

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Post by Worthy4England » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:10 pm

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Tombwfc wrote:Am I the only one that thinks he's a bit average?

Good enough for us like, but I'd be confident enough in saying that we're the best team he'll ever play for.
I'd say not looking out of place in a match against one of the best dozen teams in the world when your mate has an off day makes you a bit better than average

But no, he is probably not a world beater
I think the thing about Holden is, that he's quietly effective - sometimes, unless you're watching him specifically, you could almost miss he's there - as opposed to say Muamba, who occasionally puts someone up 6 feet in the air, or smacks a goalbound shot into row Z near the corner flag.

I'm with CAPS on this, in that us moving to 4 in midfield scared the shit out of me. But I'm not sure I've noticed too many more gaps than when we had 5 in there, which is probably some indication of the impact that Moo and Holden working together are having.

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Post by thebish » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:14 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:
Tombwfc wrote:Am I the only one that thinks he's a bit average?

Good enough for us like, but I'd be confident enough in saying that we're the best team he'll ever play for.
I'd say not looking out of place in a match against one of the best dozen teams in the world when your mate has an off day makes you a bit better than average

But no, he is probably not a world beater
I think the thing about Holden is, that he's quietly effective - sometimes, unless you're watching him specifically, you could almost miss he's there - as opposed to say Muamba, who occasionally puts someone up 6 feet in the air, or smacks a goalbound shot into row Z near the corner flag.

I'm with CAPS on this, in that us moving to 4 in midfield scared the shit out of me. But I'm not sure I've noticed too many more gaps than when we had 5 in there, which is probably some indication of the impact that Moo and Holden working together are having.
I think it also reflects Elmo's workrate...

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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:16 pm

He doesn't spend much time in midfield though - not denying that his workrate isn't impressive.....

I think the amount of grass that those two cover is superb, but I fear they may suffer a burnout later in the season (fingers crossed that they don't). That amount of sheer physical effort must take its toll somewhere.

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Post by BWFC_Wyles » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:16 pm

I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
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Post by boltonboris » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:32 pm

MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:33 pm

boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
Suits me, cos so far he has been great for us :pray:

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Post by boltonboris » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:34 pm

East Lower wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
Suits me, cos so far he has been great for us :pray:
Indeed! I'm a massive fan
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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:34 pm

boltonboris wrote:
East Lower wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
Suits me, cos so far he has been great for us :pray:
Indeed! I'm a massive fan
I have a man-crush on him, I'm not afraid to admit.

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Post by BWFC_Wyles » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:54 pm

boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
I don't see why not in a year or two. He's getting better all the time. But as has been said, he's great for us and I don't want any other team poaching him.
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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:55 pm

MJH-12 wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
I don't see why not in a year or two. He's getting better all the time. But as has been said, he's great for us and I don't want any other team poaching him.
He'll need to add goals or assists to his game first

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Post by BWFC_Wyles » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:03 pm

East Lower wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
I don't see why not in a year or two. He's getting better all the time. But as has been said, he's great for us and I don't want any other team poaching him.
He'll need to add goals or assists to his game first
I'm not going to start looking at flaws in Stu's game just yet, the guy came without a reputation and has built himself up into a fans' favourite after about 15 games for the club. I think he's class and will only get better.
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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:21 pm

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bobo the clown wrote:.... & Tom, really, yes, I suspect you may be. The lad's in great danger of being that creative midfielder we've spent years pining for.
don't be ridiculous Bobo he cost us the square root of pretty much feck-all - how could he possibly be the talismanic ambitious creative midfield tiara purchase that will bring back the glory years?
Fair point ... AND he had a name which is British & can be prounced easily.

'spose it's the naughty corner again for me !! :cry:
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Post by William the White » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:17 pm

East Lower wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
I don't see why not in a year or two. He's getting better all the time. But as has been said, he's great for us and I don't want any other team poaching him.
He'll need to add goals or assists to his game first
agreed - but you can see the potential. he certainly has a powerful shot available.

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Post by Wandering Willy » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:25 pm

William the White wrote:
East Lower wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
I don't see why not in a year or two. He's getting better all the time. But as has been said, he's great for us and I don't want any other team poaching him.
He'll need to add goals or assists to his game first
agreed - but you can see the potential. he certainly has a powerful shot available.
Aye - can you imagine if both Holden and Muamba can make a trip to "Ye Olde Shooting Boots Shoppe". :wink:

We are certianly creating chances for them.
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Post by t_o_molloy » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:29 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:
William the White wrote:
East Lower wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:
boltonboris wrote: I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
I don't see why not in a year or two. He's getting better all the time. But as has been said, he's great for us and I don't want any other team poaching him.
He'll need to add goals or assists to his game first
agreed - but you can see the potential. he certainly has a powerful shot available.
Aye - can you imagine if both Holden and Muamba can make a trip to "Ye Olde Shooting Boots Shoppe". :wink:

We are certianly creating chances for them.
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Post by Tombwfc » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:13 pm

bobo the clown wrote: .... & Tom, really, yes, I suspect you may be. The lad's in great danger of being that creative midfielder we've spent years pining for.

But is he better than Veloso ? That's the real question.
I did say that over a month ago. I think he's had a very good month and so proven me wrong in that respect.

More Gary Speed than Jay Jay Okocha though. A creative midfielder would have to create something.

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Post by Gaz Tomorrow » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:22 pm

boltonboris wrote:
MJH-12 wrote:I think Holden is a class act. Always finding space regardless of how tight and compact the midfield is. High workrate and any criticisms anyone may have of him at this time, will more than likely fade away when he really gets used to the Premier League. Class player!
I agree with everything said about Holden. He looks terrific, but here's a question...

.. Could you see him playing at a higher 'standard' than BWFC? Not sure I could
You mean top 6 teams in the EPL??? :wink: So proud to say that!

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