Today I'm angry about.....

[William the White]

On planet hoboh ideas are a kind of giant pin ball machine pinging here, there and everywhere, making funny noises as they go... and he's not yet hit stage one replay...

And, sadly, never will, since it requires co-ordination between brain and the two fingers necessary to post on T-W, and that doesn't come easy...

So instead we have the racket between one mad thought and the next, before he sinks onto the pile of old newspaper, opens the bottle of strongbow, and contemplates - slowly - the next intervention...

[Wandering Willy]

On planet hoboh ideas are a kind of giant pin ball machine pinging here, there and everywhere, making funny noises as they go... and he's not yet hit stage one replay...

And, sadly, never will, since it requires co-ordination between brain and the two fingers necessary to post on T-W, and that doesn't come easy...

So instead we have the racket between one mad thought and the next, before he sinks onto the pile of old newspaper, opens the bottle of strongbow, and contemplates - slowly - the next intervention...

When did the rules change?

[Hoboh]

On planet hoboh ideas are a kind of giant pin ball machine pinging here, there and everywhere, making funny noises as they go... and he's not yet hit stage one replay...

And, sadly, never will, since it requires co-ordination between brain and the two fingers necessary to post on T-W, and that doesn't come easy...

So instead we have the racket between one mad thought and the next, before he sinks onto the pile of old newspaper, opens the bottle of strongbow, and contemplates - slowly - the next intervention...

William, you stay with the idealistic folk and thoughts I'll stick to intervening to stop you all killing your good selfs

[BWFC_Insane]

Whatever happened to the good old ban the bomb looney lefties? at least they provided some entertainment and could have been shoved to the front line as first defence against the commies

Quite clearly you think the far right are OK then...

More of a centre man meself you cheeky so n so for the post previous

BWFCI these are the "clever" people who were suposed to be runing things right in the first place are they? Their views really fill one with confidence methinks not!!!!

Who are you talking about? GPs? Because the proposal is that they run the whole show, not just their own practices. And they're not very keen, on the whole, they don't like the idea. They've not been running it before.

Are you saying that you do or don't agree with GP's running the whole thing?

[Hoboh]

Whatever happened to the good old ban the bomb looney lefties? at least they provided some entertainment and could have been shoved to the front line as first defence against the commies

Quite clearly you think the far right are OK then...

More of a centre man meself you cheeky so n so for the post previous

BWFCI these are the "clever" people who were suposed to be runing things right in the first place are they? Their views really fill one with confidence methinks not!!!!

Who are you talking about? GPs? Because the proposal is that they run the whole show, not just their own practices. And they're not very keen, on the whole, they don't like the idea. They've not been running it before.

Are you saying that you do or don't agree with GP's running the whole thing?

Ok lets go then,

GP Practices are far better places than they used to be offering vastly superior "local" in house treatment and are looking to expand these in a good many cases, who runs them now quite effeciently? Doctors! I can see if they are to be finacially capped why some will get on their high horse but unless you I and everyone else wants to stump up 90% of our earnings in tax they have to have budgets and be run on business lines.

[thebish]

Who are you talking about? GPs? Because the proposal is that they run the whole show,

hmmm... that's the spin... and to some people it sounds good - GPs running healthcare - cos we like GPs, don't we..

however....

GPs will not be running the show - thing is, they already have full-time jobs being, errrr, GPs - so they will club together and pay managers and professional administrators to run the show for them..

who would they be then?

ooh - look - here's a boatload of american private healthcare executives beating a path to their door offering the earth..

yes please - nice american private healthcare executives..

y'know what - now we're here - and we are sortinbg out your local healthcare commissioning for you - and the market is now open to allcomers - why not stop using the NHS for all your blood analysis - we can get a good deal with Blood-R-Us Inc. - much cheaper - and - while we're at it - Minor-Ops-4-U Inc can have the contract for all minor ops...

(5 yrs later)

GP - what happened to the NHS we used to use?

oh - that old thing... you decided to use a whole wealth of private healthcare providers - remember? - what with you running the show now - you took advantage of all their introductory offers - loss leaders - and now the NHS (priced out of the market) has gone they are really your only choice - and now they are charging us a shitload for what they used to offer us for nothing.... anyway - leave you to it now mate - we're off to bugger up another country's healthcare system....

here's an idea though - nice Mr GP - ever thought of charging your patients for this ace health service you have built for them? insurance would cover it.. we know some guys if you wanna talk...

[BWFC_Insane]

Who are you talking about? GPs? Because the proposal is that they run the whole show,

hmmm... that's the spin... and to some people it sounds good - GPs running healthcare - cos we like GPs, don't we..

however....

GPs will not be running the show - thing is, they already have full-time jobs being, errrr, GPs - so they will club together and pay managers and professional administrators to run the show for them..

who would they be then?

ooh - look - here's a boatload of american private healthcare executives beating a path to their door offering the earth..

yes please - nice american private healthcare executives..

y'know what - now we're here - and we are sortinbg out your local healthcare commissioning for you - and the market is now open to allcomers - why not stop using the NHS for all your blood analysis - we can get a good deal with Blood-R-Us Inc. - much cheaper - and - while we're at it - Minor-Ops-4-U Inc can have the contract for all minor ops...

(5 yrs later)

GP - what happened to the NHS we used to use?

oh - that old thing... you decided to use a whole wealth of private healthcare providers - remember? - what with you running the show now - you took advantage of all their introductory offers - loss leaders - and now the NHS (priced out of the market) has gone they are really your only choice - and now they are charging us a shitload for what they used to offer us for nothing.... anyway - leave you to it now mate - we're off to bugger up another country's healthcare system....

here's an idea though - nice Mr GP - ever thought of charging your patients for this ace health service you have built for them? insurance would cover it.. we know some guys if you wanna talk...

Bish lets not even bother painting the worst case scenario, lets just look at the immediate, certain future under these proposals.

Imagine if Mr Hoboh walks into his GP surgery now with an infection in his ear.

Mr GP currently decides what is best for Mr Hoboh and either, prescribes something or refers him to see a specialist.

Lets say he decides a prescription may clear it up but as its recurring and a bit of a problem and potentially nice Mr Hoboh could lose his hearing in the worst case. So its worth a referral to a specialist.

CURRENTLY Mr GP refers him and doesn't think anything more of it, until he gets results back or sees Mr Hoboh again.

However, in a year or two's time according to Tory plans, Mr GP will be sitting on a local consortium who will have to manage the health budget for the area Mr Hoboh lives in.

So replay the situation, Mr GP's consortium are struggling to reign in their budget because a lot of Mr Hoboh's friends have had a bit too much to drink and have all needed to go into hospital within the last 6 months for various minor but very costly operations.

Mr Hoboh goes in with his ear problem and Mr GP who is worried about Mr Hoboh but also has one mind on the consortium he fronts up and manages and the budgetary problems he has. So when it comes down to a choice between a relatively cheap prescription or a more expensive referral to a specialist which hat will Mr GP have on, the one that provides the best possible care for Mr Hoboh or the one that protects his interests within his consortium and their financial position (that will no doubt incur heavy penalties from the department of health if they overshoot their budget)?

Does anyone think putting GP's in that position is a good idea in any way at all?

Most of the GP's bloody don't. They want to treat sick people not worry about budgets, services and management!

[Worthy4England]

You're obviously missing the bit where the GP could offer an enhanced service to Mr Hoboh if he has medical insurance or is willing to contribute a small fee...

[General Mannerheim]

Can anyone confirm the clock on Daybreak was wrong this morning!? (arrgh busted watching daybreak:oops: )

But seriously, I lay in bed for about 10 mins waiting for the clock to strike 7am as my cue to get up. It did, so I hopped out of bed, dressed and out the door.

Thought it was unusual how bright it was for 7.30am, and strange there were so many people knocking about – when I landed at work and the place was full I knew summat was wrong, so checked my watch and sure enough it was 8.40am! I wanna know if the clock was wrong or maybe I was just dreaming or summat – was very weird.

[Raven]

Too busy watching Lucy than the clock

[General Mannerheim]

Too busy watching Lucy than the clock

shes tremendous. i think she may have blocked me from her twitter for sending indecent tweets!? frigid bitch

[Lofthouse Lower]

[Cheese]

Can anyone confirm the clock on Daybreak was wrong this morning!? (arrgh busted watching daybreak:oops: )

But seriously, I lay in bed for about 10 mins waiting for the clock to strike 7am as my cue to get up. It did, so I hopped out of bed, dressed and out the door.

Thought it was unusual how bright it was for 7.30am, and strange there were so many people knocking about – when I landed at work and the place was full I knew summat was wrong, so checked my watch and sure enough it was 8.40am! I wanna know if the clock was wrong or maybe I was just dreaming or summat – was very weird.

Sounds like you were watching the new ITV1+1 channel by mistake. If you haven't retuned your box yet, it will have replaced ITV2+1.

[bobo the clown]

Too busy watching Lucy than the clock

shes tremendous. i think she may have blocked me from her twitter for sending indecent tweets!? frigid bitch

I had no idea who she is. I can't watch DayBreak. Not coz my telly's broken or anything, I just can't watch it. I developed an allergy to ITV's morning news magazine programme during the Fiona Phillips days & I'm not willing to risk seeing if it's better now that Bleakley's on it. I very much doubt it though.

So I looked her up.

http://www.itv.com/daybreak/presenters/lucyverasamy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I take your point. Watch it with the volume off, it helps you concentrate.

How tight is that top ??

[hisroyalgingerness]

People who can't park properly, and then scrape your car as they reverse out. And not leave you any details

[jmjhb]

I agree about Daybreak actually, terrible show. Also, the way Zoe Salmon says "fifty thoisand poinds" just goes through me.

[thebish]

People who can't park properly, and then scrape your car as they reverse out. And not leave you any details

or....

Dear Mr Gingerness, I have just scraped your car - and there's a little crowd of people watching so I have to make it look as if I am writing down my details for you to contact me. actually I'm not - I'm just gonna pop this under your windscreen wiper now..

have a nice day,

Mr Crappy Parky

[thebish]

Radio five having more and more no-go areas...

Stephen shouty Nolan
Alan Green/Spoony/Savage
Richard me-me-me-me-me-me Bacon
Peter wanker Allen
Alan Davies taking over the Danny Baker show...

arse!

[Little Green Man]

You forgot that twuntbubble Colin Murray.

And Nicky feck!ng Campbell

[KeeeeeeeBaaaaaaab]

Radio five having more and more no-go areas...

Stephen shouty Nolan
Alan Green/Spoony/Savage
Richard me-me-me-me-me-me Bacon
Peter wanker Allen
Alan Davies taking over the Danny Baker show...

arse!

I'll give you all of them apart from Richard Bacon. A lot of what he says is tongue-in-cheek, and he's a lot warmer than the other tools you mention.