Today I'm angry about.....

[thebish]

oi! this isn't a debating thread - just a place to put the names of things that piss you off!

[Hoboh]

Martha get me gun! Dammed hoodies

[Little Green Man]

oi! this isn't a debating thread - just a place to put the names of things that piss you off!

Indeed it is. And I wasn't debating with you.

Back to the matter in hand - why the &*$% has it taken an internal email audit by News International (wankers!) to reveal that there was an awful lot more to the illegal phone-tapping scandal? I know it's been asked before but what on Earth were to Met Police doing or more importantly not doing when they were investigating that a few years back? Surely it would be basic policing to seize and process all the email records in such a case? Apparently not...

[Hoboh]

oi! this isn't a debating thread - just a place to put the names of things that piss you off!

Indeed it is. And I wasn't debating with you.

Back to the matter in hand - why the &*$% has it taken an internal email audit by News International (wankers!) to reveal that there was an awful lot more to the illegal phone-tapping scandal? I know it's been asked before but what on Earth were to Met Police doing or more importantly not doing when they were investigating that a few years back? Surely it would be basic policing to seize and process all the email records in such a case? Apparently not...

If it stops folk ruining the peace with mobiles, tap away!

[Bruce Rioja]

From what I gather he's quite 'vertically challenged' so I doubt he is big leggy.

But then I don't know exactly how little a Little Green Man is, do I? You might be a veritable Brobdingnagian, a true behemoth. So nerr - pooh sticks! :Thing nodding sagely:

[Harry Genshaw]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12297125" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The mother of this lad is giving me the right hump. Lets blame everybody for his suicide in order to deflect attention away from her failings as a Mother.

[Prufrock]

Harsh. She doesn't in fact do that. In fact she admits he was no angel. However I'd say, myself, four grown men punching a four teen year old lad in the nose as a 'distraction' is not really on. It isn't his fault, even if his parenting was terrible. The stories come out of these places seem to indicate some of the staff are people who should be involved in these cases, and others are of the sort who enjoy abusing power, and lording it over the weak. See for example the nursing home owners and staff who allowed unspeakable horrors to go on.

[Harry Genshaw]

Harsh. She doesn't in fact do that. In fact she admits he was no angel. However I'd say, myself, four grown men punching a four teen year old lad in the nose as a 'distraction' is not really on. It isn't his fault, even if his parenting was terrible. The stories come out of these places seem to indicate some of the staff are people who should be involved in these cases, and others are of the sort who enjoy abusing power, and lording it over the weak. See for example the nursing home owners and staff who allowed unspeakable horrors to go on.

"I'm hoping to have the staff charged with assaulting Adam.

"They should be facing court proceedings for assaulting a little boy, because that's what Adam was, a little boy."

A little boy who was in there for wounding an innocent little boy. She then accuses the service of 'killing her son'. I imagine a 14 year old kid with a history of violence takes some restraining.

[Prufrock]

Four of them, and one fourteen year old boy, and they punched him in the face. There are also allegations that staff beating the children and turning off cameras whilst they did so. You are talking about a mother who has lost her child. Personally I think it is a good idea that there is a proper investigation when the youngest person to die in captivity for over a century is found hung hours after being assaulted. Let's not forget that this inquest has found she is correct, and this horrendously euphemistic 'distraction' caused a more than minimal contribution to his death.

[thebish]

Harsh. She doesn't in fact do that. In fact she admits he was no angel. However I'd say, myself, four grown men punching a four teen year old lad in the nose as a 'distraction' is not really on. It isn't his fault, even if his parenting was terrible. The stories come out of these places seem to indicate some of the staff are people who should be involved in these cases, and others are of the sort who enjoy abusing power, and lording it over the weak. See for example the nursing home owners and staff who allowed unspeakable horrors to go on.

"I'm hoping to have the staff charged with assaulting Adam.

"They should be facing court proceedings for assaulting a little boy, because that's what Adam was, a little boy."

A little boy who was in there for wounding an innocent little boy. She then accuses the service of 'killing her son'. I imagine a 14 year old kid with a history of violence takes some restraining.

we could "imagine" all sorts of things - but I doubt it would be that helpful... given that the court - considering all the evidence concluded that they used unreasonable and illegal force - then I'd say then issue is not quite so obvious as your imagination would have it...

[Wandering Willy]

Still a terrible thing when a 14 year old takes his own life. Whatever the circumstances.

[William the White]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12297125

The mother of this lad is giving me the right hump. Lets blame everybody for his suicide in order to deflect attention away from her failings as a Mother.

She is, in the interview you post, calm, rational and right. In every respect. What do you know about her failings as a mother? Or anything else that might have turned this child into a prisoner at fourteen where, it seems, FOUR adult males couldn't restrain him without assault.

Let there be an investigation, and, as she says, if there has been a criminal assault, let the perpetrators come to trial.

[Bruce Rioja]

FOUR adult males couldn't restrain him without assault.

Exactly. They had to assault the feral little feck* as he was trying to bite them. Try reading all of this stuff, William!

Let there be an investigation indeed!

[William the White]

FOUR adult males couldn't restrain him without assault.

Exactly. They had to assault the feral little feck as he was trying to bite them. Try reading all of this stuff, William!

Let there be an investigation indeed!

I read the link posted from beginning to end. What else do you want me to read? Post a link if there is anything. You know, I'm a reader.

So, from the link Harry G put up, and the interview with the child's mother, what do you disagree with in what I wrote?

[Prufrock]

http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/stateme ... ness-59580" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This. You are the conservatives. You favour corporations and wealth over employees. Everyone gets this. Why do you have to insert bullshit sentences about how this policy is good for employees. It isn't. It isn't supposed to be. One line about sacking more people means more jobs for everyone, yeah, just makes you sound MORE like nice people.

[bobo the clown]

I'm getting angry that this thread veers off onto heavy, serious stuff better placed for the Politics thread.

This is for pointless, irrational, trivial bollox which has irritated someone beyond sense .... or at least I think it is.

Anyway, if you want angry, I'm utterly p'd off that the inner lining of my right shoe has slipped and keeps crumpling up resulting in the twin irks that it rubs my footarch AND manages to twist my sock around so that the fecking heel ends up at the instep within 30m of putting it back in place. Now THAT is making me bloody angry.

[thebish]

the meeja creaming its knickers over some jumped up Scot called Little Timmy Murray... enough already!

[Il Pirate]

A 14 year old boy should and could have been restrained using approved techniques. Punching him in the face isn't one of them. If the same restraining technique works on a raging psychotic 20 stone fella doing a life term, I'm sure it could be applied to a child.

[David Lee's Hair]

the meeja creaming its knickers over some jumped up Scot called Little Timmy Murray... enough already!

They wont be come tomorrow.

[thebish]

the meeja creaming its knickers over some jumped up Scot called Little Timmy Murray... enough already!

They wont be come tomorrow.

he appears to have lost the first set... but I ain't counting no chickens....