Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by thebish » Sun May 08, 2011 2:40 pm

I simply can't see Jussi leaving this summer..

1. I can't see why he'd want to
2. I can't see any clubs much better than us wooing him - there have hardly ever been any serious suggestions that anyone else was after him

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Hoboh » Mon May 09, 2011 3:52 pm

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boltonboris wrote:There doesn't seem to be much difference in ability. So it's a difficult one. Jussi has vast experience. but we also risk losing Al-Habsi.

Preferably, for me, it'd be Al-Habsi as the number 1 next season. We could get a good 7-8 years with AAH, whereas Jussi is 'on his way'
What would you do with Jussi in that situation? I doubt he'll happily sit on the bench. Do you ask him to try "coaching" or see if you can move him on?

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by SonsOfThunder » Mon May 09, 2011 6:57 pm

1. Habsi represents the best chance of a fairly large payday. Sell him.
2. Jussi still has some left in the tank. Use him.
3. Bogdan has shown much promise. Promote him when Jussi steps down.

Of course the transition from #2 to #3 must be handled with care. Bogdan should get Cup games next season as well as the odd game in the league so Jussi can get rest. If Jussi is still performing at a high level come the end of next season, offer him a shorter-term contract on lower wages. If he's half-reasonable he'd surely take it.

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Prufrock » Mon May 09, 2011 7:27 pm

Folk seem to be ridiculously overconfident with regards to Bogdan, he's looked solid so far, done little wrong, but proven himself good enough to be a premiership number one in the next couple of years? Not even close. Whilst I see the logic of selling Ali as we'd get more pennies for him, we run the risk of having to spend that money, or more, in 12 months or two years for a Jussi replacement if Bogdan is shite.
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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by William the White » Mon May 09, 2011 7:30 pm

SonsOfThunder wrote:1. Habsi represents the best chance of a fairly large payday. Sell him.
2. Jussi still has some left in the tank. Use him.
3. Bogdan has shown much promise. Promote him when Jussi steps down.

Of course the transition from #2 to #3 must be handled with care. Bogdan should get Cup games next season as well as the odd game in the league so Jussi can get rest. If Jussi is still performing at a high level come the end of next season, offer him a shorter-term contract on lower wages. If he's half-reasonable he'd surely take it.
Agree with that strategy... Jussi still has the job for me, Ali will raise some cash, Bogdan has promise enough to continue to develop...

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Tombwfc » Mon May 09, 2011 8:14 pm

Prufrock wrote:Folk seem to be ridiculously overconfident with regards to Bogdan, he's looked solid so far, done little wrong, but proven himself good enough to be a premiership number one in the next couple of years? Not even close. Whilst I see the logic of selling Ali as we'd get more pennies for him, we run the risk of having to spend that money, or more, in 12 months or two years for a Jussi replacement if Bogdan is shite.
It's more about cash flow for me. Presumably (hopefully) in 12 months/two years we won't be looking at losing our two highest scoring strikers and arguably the best centre half we've had in the last 20 years (certainly he'd get in a combined XI).

'Keepers are generally fairly cheap anyway. Only I think Gomes, Reina and Cech out of the league's first choice goalkeepers cost more than £5mil, most are below/around the £3mil or so we'd get for Ali.

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Prufrock » Mon May 09, 2011 8:46 pm

Equally, most keepers seem to cost a couple of million quid, which we only had one lot of last time around. Cahill's departure means we'll probably have pennies to spend for the only season a few years before or ahead. I'd rather have the keeper position sorted for the next 5,6,7 years for certain and risk sitting on Jussi's wages for another year if he sits around (with the bonus that that wouldn't half be competition for places), than risk getting cash for Ali we then have to find again in two years time when we aren't sitting on a £15million plus centre half. If keepers tend to be cheap, and as such we shouldn't worry about buying one, what makes us think we can get any meaningful sum for Ali now?

If someone comes in with silly money for Al-Habsi, £6million plus, by all means sell, but otherwise I'd rather have the number one sewn up for the foreseeable.
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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by boltonboris » Tue May 10, 2011 12:12 pm

Prufrock wrote:Folk seem to be ridiculously overconfident with regards to Bogdan, he's looked solid so far, done little wrong, but proven himself good enough to be a premiership number one in the next couple of years? Not even close. Whilst I see the logic of selling Ali as we'd get more pennies for him, we run the risk of having to spend that money, or more, in 12 months or two years for a Jussi replacement if Bogdan is shite.

He's looked solid apart from that hairy moment when he got absolutely nowehere near a cross at Blackburn after rushing out 15 yards.. Luckily Roberts(?) missed the open net
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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by BwfcDan » Tue May 10, 2011 1:03 pm

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Prufrock wrote:Folk seem to be ridiculously overconfident with regards to Bogdan, he's looked solid so far, done little wrong, but proven himself good enough to be a premiership number one in the next couple of years? Not even close. Whilst I see the logic of selling Ali as we'd get more pennies for him, we run the risk of having to spend that money, or more, in 12 months or two years for a Jussi replacement if Bogdan is shite.

He's looked solid apart from that hairy moment when he got absolutely nowehere near a cross at Blackburn after rushing out 15 yards.. Luckily Roberts(?) missed the open net
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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Tue May 10, 2011 2:57 pm

I was still unconvinced with Jussi for his first seven seasons

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Lord Kangana » Tue May 10, 2011 9:12 pm

I've seen Bogdan from the reserves up for us. He's never failed to impress me over the last 4 years at all levels. Sure, its difficult to predict how well a youngster will develop in the long term. But he's got as good a set of raw materials as Jussi had at his disposal all those years ago. Its well worth risking him as second pick (to either of the other two).

Which kind of echoes what Tom was saying. Its the now thats worrying. Perming 2 from 3 of our keepers is not as bad a risk as having Kevin Davies and Robbie Blake as our strike force.

So either rid the wages of Jussi or get the money for Ali. I think its fairly straightforward, and the least of our worries.
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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by thebish » Mon May 16, 2011 10:26 am

I am told by someone who understands this stuff that Al-Habsi has just tweeted the following....
"after the last match next week and whether we win or lose, ill be heading back to Bolton as of what I signed on the contract. Be sure ill not accept sitting on the bench next season with any of the clubs"

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by seanworth » Mon May 16, 2011 10:34 am

thebish wrote:I am told by someone who understands this stuff that Al-Habsi has just tweeted the following....
"after the last match next week and whether we win or lose, ill be heading back to Bolton as of what I signed on the contract. Be sure ill not accept sitting on the bench next season with any of the clubs"
I would lose respect for him if he didn't think that way. We have a keeping decision that must be made this summer. Won't be easy but hope its the right one.

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon May 16, 2011 10:35 am

I'm still completely undecided about what to do with the goalkeepers next season.

Wouldn't be unhappy to see Jussi continue
Wouldn't be unhappy to see Ali be no.1

Not sure.

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 16, 2011 11:00 am

Lofthouse Lower wrote:I'm still completely undecided about what to do with the goalkeepers next season.

Wouldn't be unhappy to see Jussi continue
Wouldn't be unhappy to see Ali be no.1

Not sure.

How many times have we seen this this season where Jaaskelainen just falls to his knees whilst offering a token wave? Far, far too many for me. Cheers Jussi, but you've had it, owd lad!

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Lofthouse Lower » Mon May 16, 2011 11:02 am

He does tend to dive under the ball, doesn't he??

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by TKIZ! » Mon May 16, 2011 11:20 am

Indeed
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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 16, 2011 1:21 pm

Lofthouse Lower wrote:I'm still completely undecided about what to do with the goalkeepers next season.

Wouldn't be unhappy to see Jussi continue
Wouldn't be unhappy to see Ali be no.1

Not sure.
Pretty much the same over here, mate - it'd be nice to get some money either way (incoming fee or outgoing wage), but I'm not massively fussed which way it goes. Other areas are of far greater concern...

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by Hoboh » Mon May 16, 2011 1:23 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Lofthouse Lower wrote:I'm still completely undecided about what to do with the goalkeepers next season.

Wouldn't be unhappy to see Jussi continue
Wouldn't be unhappy to see Ali be no.1

Not sure.
Pretty much the same over here, mate - it'd be nice to get some money either way (incoming fee or outgoing wage), but I'm not massively fussed which way it goes. Other areas are of far greater concern...

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Re: Jussi Jaaskelainen to leave BWFC

Post by DIPS » Mon May 16, 2011 1:27 pm

After the B'pool game the whole back line needs refreshing. It should start with in between the sticks. Bye bye Jussi.
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