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Post by Wandering Willy » Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:55 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Nice reccomendation by her from keneckie (sp?) DSB...
im all for formation flexibility...i even accept your Heskey point, tough Engerlund were always miles better with Rooney there... But I just dont see 2 goal Holden, 2(?) goal mark davies and chungy/petrov firing the goals in. Sturridge up top being set up by those guys - now we aretalking. 451 int big sam days we were still relative low scorers but Stelios and Dioufy, Kev Nolan all excellent finishers. think we lack that from midfield at the moment. Maybe Holden cando it - he was too busy covering Muamba last season.
oh and on Muamba - he's a keeper for me on the basis he turned up and didnt hide like the rest of the pricks at wembley.
In terms of league goals:

Stelios 4 goals per season av
Diouf 5 goals per season av
Nolan 4 goals per season av.

That's in a different formation, more conducive to scoring from midfield. Not a huge step up for our current midfielders should we change shape but I'm not sure I'd attach the adjective "excellent".
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Post by Prufrock » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:58 pm

boltonboris wrote:
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Horza wrote:Jeffren has played a handful of games... for Barcelona.

How many of our first XI would make the bench?
And Luke Chadwick played plenty of games for the filth! Where's he now?

What about the Geovanni who ended up on loan at the Tractor Shaggers from Spurs after coming from Barca?

Just because he plays for them doesn't automatically mean he's going to tear it up in the Prem. Its a gamble.
Assuming Taylor is already on his way.. What would you rather us do? Take a gamble on a lad who has borken into the best squad in world football, or persist with a bloke who proved last season that he wasn't good enough (despite the odd glimpse) and is in his 30's

That would be all well and good if we were assuming they were the only two options possibly available.
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Post by Prufrock » Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:59 pm

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Peter Thompson wrote:If this report is true, then IMO Reo Coker would be a good signing for the right wages (I suspect that we would pay him a signing on fee as a free agent to compensate for the reduction in wages i.e. perhaps £1.5M up front then wages of around £40k a week) and he would add some much needed steel to the side, but with Pratley, Holden, Mark Davies & Muamba for 2 central midfield places in OC's rigid 4-4-2, it may perhaps signal the end for Muamba who IMO is by far the worst footballer of those players.
Feck that.
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What, he asks for £1.5m and £40k per week, and we say 'feck that'?
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Post by Prufrock » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:01 pm

TKIZ! wrote:Oh dear

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Post by Tombwfc » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:14 pm

Rodney Trotter wrote:
potter1989bwfc wrote:
Il Pirate wrote:we need better players than Taylor in our starting eleven,

Who ? Look at the stats and see how many goals Taylor helped create last season. The lad works his socks off and gets nothing but stick on here. Show me a better player for 2.2 million, who's available, doesn't want 40g + a week and of course 'puts a shift in'. Head and shoulders above N Reo-feckin-coker................
Taylor more games, less goals probs less assists.
Petrov less games, more goals probs more assists
You really are clueless about football Potter. I've said it before but your knowledge of the game could be written on the back of a postage stamp.

Football is a team game. You also need to take into account how often the left winger is helping out the left back, especially with the system we play. I'd really like to know how many we conceded last season with Petrov down the wing compared to when Taylor was playing.
I don't have those numbers, but I can steal Worthy's stats from another thread.

Petrov (28 apps) - 36 attempted tackles, 10 attempted clearances, 1 block.

Taylor (36 apps) - 103 attempted tackles, 48 attempted clearances, 4 blocks.

CYL (31 apps) - 162 attempted tackles, 26 attempted clearances, 1 block.

Rodrigo (17 apps) - 56 attempted tackles, 5 attempted clearances, 0 blocks.

Key word is 'attempted'. It's not even that Petrov just isn't very good at winning tackles or trying to clear it, he just couldn't be arsed.

Anyway, the point is fairly irrelevant as no-one is going to bid for Petrov. I'd like us to keep Taylor, but on the face of it £2.2mil is good money for a player who we didn't break the bank for, and have had excellent service out of.
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Post by BwfcDan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:16 pm

2 million is a cracking deal. But we'll regret getting rid of him. Mark my words.
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Post by TKIZ! » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:47 pm

Chelsea have put an official bid in for Lukaku(sp?). I wonder how long Sturridge is going to be willing to fight for his place?

Garty saying on twitter that Owen is working hard on transfers so I hope that he's got a few lined up
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Post by thebish » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:50 pm

BwfcDan wrote:2 million is a cracking deal. But we'll regret getting rid of him. Mark my words.
not sure how we'll measure that other than with unprovable "if Matty were here, he'd have scored that..." type arguments...

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Jul 20, 2011 6:52 pm

BwfcDan wrote:2 million is a cracking deal. But we'll regret getting rid of him. Mark my words.
My first thought on seeing him going. Hope we're both wrong.
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Post by Salford Trotter » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:11 pm

Matty Taylor was back training with the reserves today so as all the speculation suggests he's off to West Ham to discuss personal terms.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:19 pm

Why would he train with the reserves rather than go down to London?

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Post by wanderers_on_tour » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:54 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Why would he train with the reserves rather than go down to London?
He's still contracted by our club so will still have to attend our training sessions. I'm guessing it was a quick morning session before popping down on the train for afternoon/evening negotiations.

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Post by Salford Trotter » Wed Jul 20, 2011 7:59 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Why would he train with the reserves rather than go down to London?
because he did, i don't know why but i'm assuming there were still things to sort out with the transfer terms before the personal stuff could begin
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:17 pm

Salford Trotter wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Why would he train with the reserves rather than go down to London?
because he did, i don't know why but i'm assuming there were still things to sort out with the transfer terms before the personal stuff could begin
Hey I'm not doubting you at all, you obviously know your stuff! I wondered if perhaps we were holding it up until some of our deals were closer?

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Post by SonsOfThunder » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:23 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Rodney Trotter wrote:Barcelona must be sick of the sight of Gartside and co. I bet they hide every time they see Gartisde coming. A bit like old people with Halloween.
Nobody's ever sick of the sight of money. " Ola, buenas dias, senor. Bienvenido a nuestro casa". :wink:
They speak Spanish in Barcelona? :P

And I think Matty Taylor for 2.2m is great business. He's not the same after his illness and we'd be lucky to get 200k for him in the not too distant future. I think that with the funds from AAH and now Taylor, we'll have enough to fight off any rival bids for Jeffren, and still have Cahill's fee (hopefully) to work with when we start filling in some of the other pieces.

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Post by Salford Trotter » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:25 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Salford Trotter wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Why would he train with the reserves rather than go down to London?
because he did, i don't know why but i'm assuming there were still things to sort out with the transfer terms before the personal stuff could begin
Hey I'm not doubting you at all, you obviously know your stuff! I wondered if perhaps we were holding it up until some of our deals were closer?
I agree, it would make sense to do that but i hear the NRC deal is getting close so maybe that's the reason
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Post by Choppers » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:47 pm

BwfcDan wrote:2 million is a cracking deal. But we'll regret getting rid of him. Mark my words.
Totally agree.

Can't see why he's even up for sale tbh.
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Post by TKIZ! » Wed Jul 20, 2011 9:05 pm

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... _s_academy_/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;?
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Post by Tals-biggest-fan » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:10 pm

I would happily take Josh McEachran on loan seems to be a decent player every time I've seen him!
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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:40 pm

SonsOfThunder wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Rodney Trotter wrote:Barcelona must be sick of the sight of Gartside and co. I bet they hide every time they see Gartisde coming. A bit like old people with Halloween.
Nobody's ever sick of the sight of money. " Ola, buenas dias, senor. Bienvenido a nuestro casa". :wink:
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