The TRUTH re Money

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:51 am

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tell ben im him wrote:if i,m selling a car for 3 grand and you offer me a grand i will politely tell you to go fcuk yourself and keep it till i get a better offer. meanwhile back at the bus stop your getting piss wet through, but there will be a bus along soon wont there?
...and your 'car' continues to depreciate in value. It works both ways.

Prices will come down towards the end of the transfer window when clubs realise that if they don't sell, then they'll be stuck with players they don't really need.

It's always the same. Clubs have months to get deals done and yet they're desperately trying to register players 5 minutes before the transfer window shuts... or in Arsenal's case, 5 weeks after it's already closed.
This...but its unforgiveable to do it for the sake of saving say 500k and then not manage to do it in time and leave yourself short in key areas. Not so bad when you're chancing your arm at a player who you want but dont partocularly need, bargains can then be had at the last minute.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by BL3 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:
BL3 wrote:
tell ben im him wrote:if i,m selling a car for 3 grand and you offer me a grand i will politely tell you to go fcuk yourself and keep it till i get a better offer. meanwhile back at the bus stop your getting piss wet through, but there will be a bus along soon wont there?
...and your 'car' continues to depreciate in value. It works both ways.

Prices will come down towards the end of the transfer window when clubs realise that if they don't sell, then they'll be stuck with players they don't really need.

It's always the same. Clubs have months to get deals done and yet they're desperately trying to register players 5 minutes before the transfer window shuts... or in Arsenal's case, 5 weeks after it's already closed.
This...but its unforgiveable to do it for the sake of saving say 500k and then not manage to do it in time and leave yourself short in key areas. Not so bad when you're chancing your arm at a player who you want but dont partocularly need, bargains can then be had at the last minute.
I doubt we're doing it 'to save £500K'. More likely we've been quoted £8M for Cameron Jerome. Would you be happy if we paid that? If he hasn't been sold by deadline day, Birmingham will probably have to accept a lot less. Same principle applies to Cahill.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Aug 03, 2011 9:58 am

So have we got any money or not? :-)

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:01 am

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ohjimmyjimmy wrote:
BL3 wrote:
tell ben im him wrote:if i,m selling a car for 3 grand and you offer me a grand i will politely tell you to go fcuk yourself and keep it till i get a better offer. meanwhile back at the bus stop your getting piss wet through, but there will be a bus along soon wont there?
...and your 'car' continues to depreciate in value. It works both ways.

Prices will come down towards the end of the transfer window when clubs realise that if they don't sell, then they'll be stuck with players they don't really need.

It's always the same. Clubs have months to get deals done and yet they're desperately trying to register players 5 minutes before the transfer window shuts... or in Arsenal's case, 5 weeks after it's already closed.
This...but its unforgiveable to do it for the sake of saving say 500k and then not manage to do it in time and leave yourself short in key areas. Not so bad when you're chancing your arm at a player who you want but dont partocularly need, bargains can then be had at the last minute.
I doubt we're doing it 'to save £500K'. More likely we've been quoted £8M for Cameron Jerome. Would you be happy if we paid that? If he hasn't been sold by deadline day, Birmingham will probably have to accept a lot less. Same principle applies to Cahill.
Would you be happy with doing that, leaving all business til deadline day, based on 'probably' ? Lets be sensible. Nobodys expecting an 8m player to go for 2m at the last minute. It's if you've quibbled over 500k/1m a few weeks hence, hoping to save this on TDD and then running out of time which is not 'canny' .

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by BL3 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:03 am

Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
I think we've got the money we've brought in from player sales plus whatever we get from Cahill (if anything). Eddie has probably said that if we're struggling to match valuations on players we want, then he'll advance the cash and hope he gets it back if and when Cahill is sold. Coyle obviously doesn't think that the players he's targeting are worth the money he's being quoted. It's all a game of bluff between clubs at the moment... who will blink first?

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by BL3 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:12 am

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Would you be happy with doing that, leaving all business til deadline day, based on 'probably' ? Lets be sensible. Nobodys expecting an 8m player to go for 2m at the last minute. It's if you've quibbled over 500k/1m a few weeks hence, hoping to save this on TDD and then running out of time which is not 'canny' .
What makes you think he's going to risk waiting until deadline day? I'm sure that he's got more than one striker in mind.

If Birmingham won't budge on their valuation, then they may be stuck with a player that they desperately need to sell. It works both ways.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:18 am

(?) you're the one who brough up the issue of possibly waiting to bid for Jerome on Deadline day ! I never said in particular that Coyle was going to do this, just that if he did, and for the sake of saving a few bob when he was given the authority to spend it...then it wouldnt be, you know, that good really. And certainly not Jerome, cos i imagine we're way apart in valuations and am happy for it to stay that way.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by thebish » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:25 am

Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
read the whole thread again with a shot of absinthe.. it will all become clear.. :wink:

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:30 am

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Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
read the whole thread again with a shot of absinthe.. it will all become clear.. :wink:
Only a shot?? Get the bottle down you, ya big poof :)

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 03, 2011 10:49 am

Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
Nope. We've spunked it all on jazzy pumps! :D
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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by BL3 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:08 am

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:(?) you're the one who brough up the issue of possibly waiting to bid for Jerome on Deadline day !
No i didn't. I said if he hasn't been sold by deadline day then Birmingham will have to accept a lot less than they are currently asking for. I expect that OC will move on to other targets.

Birmingham have a choice, either they accept a more realistic offer now, or they risk losing him for even less on deadline day, if they're desperate to sell him.

You imply that we're trying to save paltry amounts of £500K-£1M. I'm suggesting that we are much further apart on valuations than that.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:11 am

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ohjimmyjimmy wrote:(?) you're the one who brough up the issue of possibly waiting to bid for Jerome on Deadline day !
No i didn't. I said if he hasn't been sold by deadline day then Birmingham will have to accept a lot less than they are currently asking for. I expect that OC will move on to other targets.

Birmingham have a choice, either they accept a more realistic offer now, or they risk losing him for even less on deadline day, if they're desperate to sell him.

You imply that we're trying to save paltry amounts of £500K-£1M. I'm suggesting that we are much further apart on valuations than that.
I did not 'imply' this, you 'inferred' it. I'm saying IF we do, or a club does in general, then its stupid and risky and dangerous and can backfire.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by BL3 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:16 am

BL3 wrote:You imply that we're trying to save paltry amounts of £500K-£1M. I'm suggesting that we are much further apart on valuations than that.
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:I did not 'imply' this, you 'inferred' it.
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:its unforgiveable to do it for the sake of saving say 500k
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:if you've quibbled over 500k/1m a few weeks hence, hoping to save this on TDD and then running out of time which is not 'canny'

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:18 am

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BL3 wrote:You imply that we're trying to save paltry amounts of £500K-£1M. I'm suggesting that we are much further apart on valuations than that.
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:I did not 'imply' this, you 'inferred' it.
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:its unforgiveable to do it for the sake of saving say 500k
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:if you've quibbled over 500k/1m a few weeks hence, hoping to save this on TDD and then running out of time which is not 'canny'
:doh:

Which of those states i said specifically we / Coyle is doing this / planning to do this?

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by BL3 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 11:36 am

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:Which of those states i said specifically we / Coyle is doing this / planning to do this?
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:I never said in particular that Coyle was going to do this, just that if he did, and for the sake of saving a few bob when he was given the authority to spend it...then it wouldnt be, you know, that good really
So you weren't actually talking about Coyle... except when you were. Glad we've cleared that up then.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:00 pm

Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
Y'Know I don't think anyone really got to the bottom of that. Maybe LK or BWFCi can clear it up for us!

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

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Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
Y'Know I don't think anyone really got to the bottom of that. Maybe LK or BWFCi can clear it up for us!

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I'm only interested in the TRUTH

I don't want any speculation.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by thebish » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:08 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
Armchair Wanderer wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:So have we got any money or not? :-)
Y'Know I don't think anyone really got to the bottom of that. Maybe LK or BWFCi can clear it up for us!

:twisted:
I'm only interested in the TRUTH

I don't want any speculation.

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:14 pm

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Re: The TRUTH re Money

Post by thebish » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:23 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:You're Joey Barton and I claim my prize!
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