Time to go
Moderator: Zulus Thousand of em
- BWFC_Insane
- Immortal
- Posts: 38813
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm
Re: Time to go
Which is my worry, because our backroom staffs coaching careers are all based around Coyles. Looking from the outside doesn't seem like any are in a position to impose the things we need!Prufrock wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:That Owen Coyle, came in raised the atomosphere, put a smile on peoples faces and got decent players playing.BL3 wrote:Must have been a different Owen Coyle that kept us in the top half of the league for most of last season and took us to an F.A. Cup semi-final then.FaninOz wrote:Based on his managment performance so far, and I know that's history now, I have no confidenec that he has the ability or the skill or the motivational abilities to turn the team around.
Sadly the charactersitics required then seem different to now.
We're now seeing the Owen Coyle that has built a team and needs to figure out how to organise it into some sort of a cohesive shape. How to recover from a dismal spell and how to fix some very serious issues that have presented themselves.
Not going to happen, not from Coyley any way. His career so far is based entirely on force of personality. Which is a good characteristic, but somebody needs to have a word about the other things.
-
- Reliable
- Posts: 859
- Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:16 am
Re: Time to go
I haven't commented thus far on the performances over the last several games, in part because I have not wanted to consider what the underlying problems are. However, I believe things are coming to the point of no return; we shall start to be cut adrift from the majority of the teams in the PL and unable to get out of the predicament.
One of my friends, a dirty Wolves supporter, pointed out Coyles body language to me in the most recent couple of games he caught on Sky. Having not really considered this before it is fairly shocking to conclude that he looks a beaten man. I would suggest that the team may well be picking up on this. So much for motivational ability.
He and his management/coaching team have completely lost their self-belief in all probability. They are extremely unlikely to be be able to radically change the team performance and appear to be observers to this ongoing car crash.
They have to go to save the club.
One of my friends, a dirty Wolves supporter, pointed out Coyles body language to me in the most recent couple of games he caught on Sky. Having not really considered this before it is fairly shocking to conclude that he looks a beaten man. I would suggest that the team may well be picking up on this. So much for motivational ability.
He and his management/coaching team have completely lost their self-belief in all probability. They are extremely unlikely to be be able to radically change the team performance and appear to be observers to this ongoing car crash.
They have to go to save the club.
-
- Dedicated
- Posts: 1967
- Joined: Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:36 am
Re: Time to go
One solution might be to keep OC at the helm but get in a new backroom team, or at least some different members. However, due to loyalty this isn't an option so I think you may be right. Let's hope we start to regain confidence or we make a change to turn things around.bedwetter2 wrote:He and his management/coaching team have completely lost their self-belief in all probability. They are extremely unlikely to be be able to radically change the team performance and appear to be observers to this ongoing car crash.
I think it's been said before but OC would be a perfect coach with a director of football sat upstairs for guidance.
The players you fail to sign never lose you any money.
Re: Time to go
I don't believe that there is any evidence to support this.Armchair Wanderer wrote:One solution might be to keep OC at the helm but get in a new backroom team, or at least some different members. However, due to loyalty this isn't an option so I think you may be right. Let's hope we start to regain confidence or we make a change to turn things around.bedwetter2 wrote:He and his management/coaching team have completely lost their self-belief in all probability. They are extremely unlikely to be be able to radically change the team performance and appear to be observers to this ongoing car crash.
I think it's been said before but OC would be a perfect coach with a director of football sat upstairs for guidance.
Depression is just a state of mind, supporting Bolton is also a state of mind hence supporting Bolton must be depressing QED
- Dave Sutton's barnet
- Immortal
- Posts: 31613
- Joined: Sun May 14, 2006 4:00 pm
- Location: Hanging on in quiet desperation
- Contact:
Re: Time to go
I've noticed in the last few games that Coyle has been sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
Whereas 18 months ago, he would be sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
I'm a student of body language and a student of the team. There are a few problems. The way Coyle sits on the bench is fairly low down the list.
Whereas 18 months ago, he would be sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
I'm a student of body language and a student of the team. There are a few problems. The way Coyle sits on the bench is fairly low down the list.
Re: Time to go
Ah but now he looks worried whilst doing all that!Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I've noticed in the last few games that Coyle has been sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
Whereas 18 months ago, he would be sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
I'm a student of body language and a student of the team. There are a few problems. The way Coyle sits on the bench is fairly low down the list.
Re: Time to go
I must say that the shorts and socks up to the knees look ought to earn him the nickname 'special one'
Sto ut Serviam
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 14515
- Joined: Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:27 pm
Re: Time to go
We were 'on the down' when he took over weren't we? He managed to keep us up didn't he?FaninOz wrote:Its easy to manage a team on the up but much more difficult, as he is finding out, to manage a team on the down.
-
- Reliable
- Posts: 859
- Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:16 am
Re: Time to go
Are you? Then I suppose you will have concluded that both his perpetual look of concern and head in hands for good parts of a game show a manager right on top of things. I have seen other managers pitchside do plenty of strange things including showing anger, kicking bottles, attempting to throttle the 4th official (or whatever they call themselves now) but OC appears to be a short way from rocking backwards and forwards on the bench with his thumb in his mouth.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I've noticed in the last few games that Coyle has been sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
Whereas 18 months ago, he would be sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
I'm a student of body language and a student of the team. There are a few problems. The way Coyle sits on the bench is fairly low down the list.
Re: Time to go
would it make you happier if he threw a water bottle at the floor?bedwetter2 wrote:Are you? Then I suppose you will have concluded that both his perpetual look of concern and head in hands for good parts of a game show a manager right on top of things. I have seen other managers pitchside do plenty of strange things including showing anger, kicking bottles, attempting to throttle the 4th official (or whatever they call themselves now) but OC appears to be a short way from rocking backwards and forwards on the bench with his thumb in his mouth.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:I've noticed in the last few games that Coyle has been sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
Whereas 18 months ago, he would be sat on the bench, in shorts, leaning forward with his hands clasped, occasionally jumping up to shout instructions and encouragement to his players.
I'm a student of body language and a student of the team. There are a few problems. The way Coyle sits on the bench is fairly low down the list.
Re: Time to go
And look where we are now, back in the bottom two!!BL3 wrote:We were 'on the down' when he took over weren't we? He managed to keep us up didn't he?FaninOz wrote:Its easy to manage a team on the up but much more difficult, as he is finding out, to manage a team on the down.
Depression is just a state of mind, supporting Bolton is also a state of mind hence supporting Bolton must be depressing QED
Re: Time to go
...and he managed to keep us up last time didn't he?FaninOz wrote:And look where we are now, back in the bottom two!!BL3 wrote:We were 'on the down' when he took over weren't we? He managed to keep us up didn't he?FaninOz wrote:Its easy to manage a team on the up but much more difficult, as he is finding out, to manage a team on the down.
- BWFC_Insane
- Immortal
- Posts: 38813
- Joined: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:07 pm
Re: Time to go
The exact same argument would have applied to Megson!BL3 wrote:...and he managed to keep us up last time didn't he?FaninOz wrote:And look where we are now, back in the bottom two!!BL3 wrote:We were 'on the down' when he took over weren't we? He managed to keep us up didn't he?FaninOz wrote:Its easy to manage a team on the up but much more difficult, as he is finding out, to manage a team on the down.
Re: Time to go
Oh do behave BL3 is you in a second lifeBWFC_Insane wrote:The exact same argument would have applied to Megson!BL3 wrote:...and he managed to keep us up last time didn't he?FaninOz wrote:And look where we are now, back in the bottom two!!BL3 wrote:We were 'on the down' when he took over weren't we? He managed to keep us up didn't he?FaninOz wrote:Its easy to manage a team on the up but much more difficult, as he is finding out, to manage a team on the down.

Re: Time to go
is there no thread that doesn't lead BWFCi to a Megson defense????BWFC_Insane wrote: The exact same argument would have applied to Megson!
HE'S GONE!!!! HE'S NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!! deal with it!
-
- Immortal
- Posts: 15355
- Joined: Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:42 pm
- Location: Vagantes numquam erramus
Re: Time to go
Defense?
You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.
Yes, you can stare into the abyss, but it's staring right back.
Re: Time to go
Lord Kangana wrote:Defense?

Re: Time to go
that might be aplicable to coyle come monday time.thebish wrote:
is there no thread that doesn't lead BWFCi to a Megson defense????
HE'S GONE!!!! HE'S NOT COMING BACK!!!!!!! deal with it!
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: truewhite15 and 32 guests