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Should we get rid of Owen Coyle?

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Re: Time to go

Post by officer_dibble » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:21 am

Is he still here then?
pub crawl was good :-D

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Re: Time to go

Post by M6 J24 Wanderer » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:22 am

Just used them 2 as an example of names that have been mentioned in the last few weeks and months ofcourse smc has a far better record than pi. Maybe someone like lc is a risk but if 4 example smc was annouced as the new gaffer in nxt few weeks if wouldnt fill me with much more confidence than i have now maybe a young passionate manager could be the way to go.
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Re: Time to go

Post by Worthy4England » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:31 am

bobo the clown wrote:
thebish wrote:
jmjhb wrote:I'm in the "Anyone but Coyle" camp at the moment.
Paul Ince?
Your point is made. There are a lot I'd prefer less even than Coyle. (& Ince is one)
22 points from 21 games, is what got Ince the boot.

We have 9 from 16 so could only better Ince's record if we won the next 5...

Just a thought.

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Post by jmjhb » Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:45 am

M6 J24 Wanderer wrote:Just used them 2 as an example of names that have been mentioned in the last few weeks and months ofcourse smc has a far better record than pi. Maybe someone like lc is a risk but if 4 example smc was annouced as the new gaffer in nxt few weeks if wouldnt fill me with much more confidence than i have now maybe a young passionate manager could be the way to go.
We have a young passionate manager now, and it's hardly going well, is it?

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Re: Time to go

Post by Jokers in White » Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:34 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:We need someone tough. Not hughton who is a nice guy, possibly a good coach, but we need someone to batter this sorry set of bastards till they stop smiling and joking after a defeat!

That someone tough has to be Souness surely!
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Re: Time to go

Post by thebish » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:10 pm

Peter Thompson, on Saturday 17th December wrote:He'll be gone in the morning....

New manager - Steve McClaren !!

which morning did you mean - just to be clear...

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Post by elfil76 » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:12 pm

Not this morning on the east side of the world

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Re: Time to go

Post by Jokers in White » Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:04 am

If sunderland and wolves win this week and we lose tue night we will be 7 points adrift of safety that's too many. What's all this shit about that we can't afford to pay coyle and his backroom staff off?
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Re: Time to go

Post by Peter Thompson » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:51 am

thebish wrote:
Peter Thompson, on Saturday 17th December wrote:He'll be gone in the morning....

New manager - Steve McClaren !!

which morning did you mean - just to be clear...
It was initially Sunday, now its Weds morning...., although it could be every morning until the muppet goes !

Its shocking and very sad that our 'so called' chairman & owner are just burying their heads in the sand, and allowing this fcuking debacle to continue - we are fast becoming the laughing stock of the league (and certainly will be when b/burn beat us easily on TV on Tues)

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Re: Time to go

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:28 am

officer_dibble wrote:Is he still here then?
pub crawl was good :-D
I do hope the chilli was served on time...worrying about that all weekend, i was :)

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Re: Time to go

Post by officer_dibble » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:14 pm

Thanks for the concern!
we made the chili, it just gets hazy about 3 pints later...

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Post by coffeymagic » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:33 pm

First things first. I don't think Coyle is doing a good job but I don't know what we can do. We're down (so are Blackburn - tomorrow's winners aren't going to stay up so we might aswell roll some dice and save the fans the effort of standing in the cold) that's the top and bottom of it. So what good will it do to sack him?

There isn't a queue of footballing geniuses out there waiting to move to Bolton. If they do sack him he'll be replaced by one of the other riders of the managerial-merry-go-round who'll come in, demand some money, sign some players win a couple of games and then what?

What after ten games of next season when we're languishing half way down Division 2? Do we sack 'Curbs' or 'TWWTB' or Phil Neal or whoever comes in?

Sacking Coyle will not change anything. A lot of people want Mark Hughes in - Hughes is BSA mkII - you can forget watching any football if he gets the job and what happens when he quits because he's been hearing voices in his head or whatever.

We're always told that ol' Beetroot Face was 'one game from the sack' Let's stick with Coyle because if that's true eventually Euro glory is around the corner.
I'm not asking you to 'think outside the box' I just wish you'd have a rummage around in it once in a while.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:39 pm

coffeymagic wrote:First things first. I don't think Coyle is doing a good job but I don't know what we can do. We're down (so are Blackburn - tomorrow's winners aren't going to stay up so we might aswell roll some dice and save the fans the effort of standing in the cold) that's the top and bottom of it. So what good will it do to sack him?

There isn't a queue of footballing geniuses out there waiting to move to Bolton. If they do sack him he'll be replaced by one of the other riders of the managerial-merry-go-round who'll come in, demand some money, sign some players win a couple of games and then what?

What after ten games of next season when we're languishing half way down Division 2? Do we sack 'Curbs' or 'TWWTB' or Phil Neal or whoever comes in?

Sacking Coyle will not change anything. A lot of people want Mark Hughes in - Hughes is BSA mkII - you can forget watching any football if he gets the job and what happens when he quits because he's been hearing voices in his head or whatever.

We're always told that ol' Beetroot Face was 'one game from the sack' Let's stick with Coyle because if that's true eventually Euro glory is around the corner.
I think we should have binned Coyle off after the first 8 or 9 games this season when it was obvious we were in huge trouble.

We haven't.

If we'd got rid of him in the Sammy Lee timeframe and got a sensible, experience tested pro like Curbs or Hughes, or even Bruce we'd have been fine IMO.

I'm not sure now what we do. Because IMO once you've had the run of results Coyle has had then long term there is no coming back...I don't think he'll be Bolton manager in 2 years time....

Like you I think we've left it too late....

If (and when may be more appropriate) we go down, it'll be interesting to see what happens, will Coyle be given a new deal? And how long for?

A club like ours needs a good manager. We haven't got one, until we do, its a downwards spiral!

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Re: Time to go

Post by coffeymagic » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:53 pm

Steve Bruce is a wally.
I'm not asking you to 'think outside the box' I just wish you'd have a rummage around in it once in a while.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:54 pm

And the club that needs a bad manager is?
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Re: Time to go

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:11 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:And the club that needs a bad manager is?
Probably should re-phrase that as we need a very very good manager to compete against better resourced rivals...

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Re: Time to go

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:28 pm

Well, I'm fcuking made up tonight

Still far from convinced - still some glaring weaknesses but some big ticks tonight


Fcuking off Davies

A bit of pace up top

Alonso was very good

Petrov was better

NRC and Muamba...immense

Rovers are very weak and we nearly didn't win - granted we 'nearly' won by 6, but we didn't

Lots of improvement required, but if we can use it as a starting point, there may be life in us yet
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Post by Gail Platz » Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:32 pm

COYLE IN IN IN IN IN

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Post by William the White » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:44 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:Well, I'm fcuking made up tonight

Still far from convinced - still some glaring weaknesses but some big ticks tonight


Fcuking off Davies

A bit of pace up top

Alonso was very good

Petrov was better

NRC and Muamba...immense

Rovers are very weak and we nearly didn't win - granted we 'nearly' won by 6, but we didn't

Lots of improvement required, but if we can use it as a starting point, there may be life in us yet
Crying out for these, for pretty much the whole of Jan, as two holding mids...

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Post by lovethesmellofnapalm » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:49 am

still think we need a third in there though. 2nd half tonight we lost any semblance of midfield control- (did Muamba pick up a knock?). perhaps Tuncay dropping off might help...
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