Today I'm angry about.....

[Little Green Man]

try as I might - I still cannot see this logo as anything other than a blow-job... the designer MUST be taking the piss - no???

Not only a BJ though, thebish. An incestuous one involving Lisa Simpson and their Bart!

Can't see that.

Does this help?

[ohjimmyjimmy]

Until you take one maybe?

then they'll just start offering him the new improved blackberry mk.2....

Exactly...dont you see, thats what they WANT me to do, then they really got me by the short and curlies.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Sibbald added: "This is the equivalent of 'Bombadier' for the UK print industry."

"What does this mean, Zulus?" questioned the naive Canadian.

[thebish]

Sibbald added: "This is the equivalent of 'Bombadier' for the UK print industry."

"What does this mean, Zulus?" questioned the naive Canadian.

we gave a big contract for rail carriages to johnny foreigner a wile back - then watched our own carriage maker - Bombardier disappear up the swannee and lay people off...

[Gary the Enfield]

Sibbald added: "This is the equivalent of 'Bombadier' for the UK print industry."

"What does this mean, Zulus?" questioned the naive Canadian.

we gave a big contract for rail carriages to johnny foreigner a wile back - then watched our own carriage maker - Bombardier disappear up the swannee and lay people off...

Erm, aren't Bombardier Canadian? And as I recall they got a fairly hefty contract shortly after this one fell through.

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I think they used this as an excuse to get out of ever more expensive Britain

[thebish]

Sibbald added: "This is the equivalent of 'Bombadier' for the UK print industry."

"What does this mean, Zulus?" questioned the naive Canadian.

we gave a big contract for rail carriages to johnny foreigner a wile back - then watched our own carriage maker - Bombardier disappear up the swannee and lay people off...

Erm, aren't Bombardier Canadian? And as I recall they got a fairly hefty contract shortly after this one fell through>

yeah - but it's a multinational isn't it - and they have a British "arm" (at least I think they do!)

[Zulus Thousand of em]

I think the contract that Bombardier didn't get went to Siemens in Germany, if I remember correctly.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Bombardier's British subsidiary is in Derby, I believe.

[Gary the Enfield]

Sibbald added: "This is the equivalent of 'Bombadier' for the UK print industry."

"What does this mean, Zulus?" questioned the naive Canadian.

we gave a big contract for rail carriages to johnny foreigner a wile back - then watched our own carriage maker - Bombardier disappear up the swannee and lay people off...

Erm, aren't Bombardier Canadian? And as I recall they got a fairly hefty contract shortly after this one fell through>

yeah - but it's a multinational isn't it - and they have a British "arm" (at least I think they do!)

Well yes but Siemens are multinational are they not? They also have a British 'arm'. So why are they Johnny Foreigners and Bombardier aren't?

[thebish]

Well yes but Siemens are multinational are they not? They also have a British 'arm'. So why are they Johnny Foreigners and Bombardier aren't?

do siemens have a british carriage-making arm?

[bobo the clown]

Well yes but Siemens are multinational are they not? They also have a British 'arm'. So why are they Johnny Foreigners and Bombardier aren't?

Correct GtE. The tender for the railway carriages for Britain was won by Seimans. So are to be built by the Germans in Germany, rather than by Canadians in Britain.

It would have been illegal under EU rules for the Govt. to interfere .... though that didn't suit anyone to take into account.

Facts, facts, facts again. They don't have bugger up a good whinge at times.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

They have a very large facility near me (King's Heath, Northampton) which services the London Midland Desiro fleet. I don't think they assemble any trains here though.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Still, I feel sure that there must be a number of UK-based security printers that could have handled the Olympics tickets contract.

[Gary the Enfield]

Well yes but Siemens are multinational are they not? They also have a British 'arm'. So why are they Johnny Foreigners and Bombardier aren't?

do siemens have a british carriage-making arm?

You didn't answer my question. Irrespective of whether Siemens can make these carriages in Britain and ignoring the fact that shortly after losing the tender Bombardier landed the biggest contract in their history (which they would likely not have done had they been succesful in the first place) What makes Siemens a Johnny Foreigner firm and Bombardier not?

[Gary the Enfield]

Still, I feel sure that there must be a number of UK-based security printers that could have handled the Olympics tickets contract.

I agree Zulu. And sorry for hijacking your rant.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Pause whilst Bish looks for suitable emoticon.

[Lord Kangana]

All of which inconveniently brings us back to the nagging question of why everyone else has their own manufacturers and we don't?

[Zulus Thousand of em]

Still, I feel sure that there must be a number of UK-based security printers that could have handled the Olympics tickets contract.

I agree Zulu. And sorry for hijacking your rant.

No apology required. Rants are designed for hijacking at all times!

[Gary the Enfield]

All of which inconveniently brings us back to the nagging question of why everyone else has their own manufacturers and we don't?

Cost.

[Zulus Thousand of em]

All of which inconveniently brings us back to the nagging question of why everyone else has their own manufacturers and we don't?

I think Bombardier hoovered up all the Belgian and French ones too, to be fair.