The Great Art Debate

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

So... the Scream is exhibited for 7 days in London this week: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9bb481ea-84ae ... z1ruT1kJ2Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I might try and go for a quick look.

It's difficult to describe why the image is so striking and evocative(although there have been some good attempts on this page!). There is something about it that clearly resonates with a lot of people as there can't be many more famous paintings from the past 150 years.

[thebish]

So... the Scream is exhibited for 7 days in London this week: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9bb481ea-84ae ... z1ruT1kJ2Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I might try and go for a quick look.

It's difficult to describe why the image is so striking and evocative(although there have been some good attempts on this page!). There is something about it that clearly resonates with a lot of people as there can't be many more famous paintings from the past 150 years.

you have to register for that link... where?? when??

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

So... the Scream is exhibited for 7 days in London this week: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/9bb481ea-84ae ... z1ruT1kJ2Y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I might try and go for a quick look.

It's difficult to describe why the image is so striking and evocative(although there have been some good attempts on this page!). There is something about it that clearly resonates with a lot of people as there can't be many more famous paintings from the past 150 years.

you have to register for that link... where?? when??

Sotheby's in Mayfair.

Actually it's just today and the weekend.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/ ... sfeed=true" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Looks to be a great sale - I hope all the main pieces will be in London before they go to NY.

[thebish]

Philip Hook, senior specialist at the auction house, said: "In terms of the fame and the familiarity of the image, I think this is the most important picture that Sotheby's have ever sold. Short of selling the Mona Lisa, I do not think there is another image that transcends its original function as a work of art in a way that The Scream does.

"It is the ultimate image of angst and anxiety. It's an image of modern man's alienation – the face that launched a thousand therapists. In a sense it is the whole beginning of modern man's fascination with his own emotions."

good claims for "great art"....

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

[thebish]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

[Bruce Rioja]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

It'll go for more than that. £85m I reckon.

[TANGODANCER]

"It is the ultimate image of angst and anxiety. It's an image of modern man's alienation – the face that launched a thousand therapists. "

Considering Munch painted four versions, the first and last 17 years apart, he must have been one miseable sod, superceded only by the silly fxcker who'll pay multi- millions to own it. Dear me.

[Bruce Rioja]

"It is the ultimate image of angst and anxiety. It's an image of modern man's alienation – the face that launched a thousand therapists. "

Considering Munch painted four versions, the first and last 17 years apart, he must have been one miseable sod, superceded only by the silly fxcker who'll pay multi- millions to own it. Dear me.

Does that alter the fact that it remains the ultimate image of angst and anxiety? I think not.

[thebish]

"It is the ultimate image of angst and anxiety. It's an image of modern man's alienation – the face that launched a thousand therapists. "

Considering Munch painted four versions, the first and last 17 years apart, he must have been one miseable sod, superceded only by the silly fxcker who'll pay multi- millions to own it. Dear me.

Does that alter the fact that it remains the ultimate image of angst and anxiety? I think not.

nope. it just reinforces the idea that Tango appears to regard people who don't happen to agree with his own "just my opinion" view and worth of art are "silly fxckers", even if he doesn't yet know who they are!!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

It'll go for more than that. £85m I reckon.

I actually don't think so.

One of the painted versions might fetch that, but this is only pastel.

None of the big galleries are spending that kind of cash at the moment, but it could be interesting if some oil money gets thrown at it with a couple of determined bidders.

[Bruce Rioja]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

It'll go for more than that. £85m I reckon.

I actually don't think so.

One of the painted versions might fetch that, but this is only pastel.

None of the big galleries are spending that kind of cash at the moment, but it could be interesting if some oil money gets thrown at it with a couple of determined bidders.

Well, let's see.

[thebish]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

It'll go for more than that. £85m I reckon.

I actually don't think so.

One of the painted versions might fetch that, but this is only pastel.

None of the big galleries are spending that kind of cash at the moment, but it could be interesting if some oil money gets thrown at it with a couple of determined bidders.

Well, let's see.

and no shill-bidding, bruce, to prove mummy wrong!

[TANGODANCER]

nope. it just reinforces the idea that Tango appears to regard people who don't happen to agree with his own "just my opinion" view and worth of art are "silly fxckers", even if he doesn't yet know who they are!!

Er, no, not quite. We were discussing one painting, and whoever pays that sort of money; it's immaterial in knowing who they are or not. However, I'll withdraw my "just my opinion" view in the light of your own all-seeing, all-knowing, batter everybody over the head until they agree, one then. Not much point in having an opinion against such omnipotence really, is there?

Carry on screaming.

[thebish]

nope. it just reinforces the idea that Tango appears to regard people who don't happen to agree with his own "just my opinion" view and worth of art are "silly fxckers", even if he doesn't yet know who they are!!

Er, no, not quite. We were discussing one painting, and whoever pays that sort of money; it's immaterial in knowing who they are or not. However, I'll withdraw my "just my opinion" view in the light of your own all-seeing, all-knowing, batter everybody over the head until they agree, one then. Not much point in having an opinion against such omnipotence really, is there?

Carry on screaming.

I'm not calling ANYONE a silly fxcker...

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

To be fair, he is trying to get £50million for the thing!

It'll go for more than that. £85m I reckon.

I actually don't think so.

One of the painted versions might fetch that, but this is only pastel.

None of the big galleries are spending that kind of cash at the moment, but it could be interesting if some oil money gets thrown at it with a couple of determined bidders.

Well, let's see.

Go on, I'll bet you a tenner it doesn't go for more than £60million?

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

Interesting article on the front page of the FT arts section today about John Berger's seminal TV series 'Ways of Seeing', first shown in 1972 and about to enjoy a screening at the BFI in April. Any of our left-leaning art lovers remember this from first time round?

I hear a call from afar...

It's fab...

The book from the series remains on the reading list of many a Uni art department - including my daughter's (Lancaster). We have two copies here - mine and my wife's. Purchased before we met.

Do not miss. What is the date - I might come down myself.

FT says it's being shown 3-17 April at BFI Southbank - let me know if you're coming down. Plenty else to see at the moment too - Picasso, Freud, Hockney...

Completely ballsed this up... the couple of sources I read seemed to suggest that the Berger four-part series would be screened throughout the two weeks, when if fact it was shown just once, on the 4th April, with other bits and pieces about Berger on the other dates.

[Bruce Rioja]

Go on, I'll bet you a tenner it doesn't go for more than £60million?

Crumpets. jam and tea at Hoylake says it gets £85M

[William the White]

Apart from The Scream I hardly knew Munch's work at all.

Prompted by this thread I've been taking a look around. He was absolutely brilliant. One os the most emotionally powerful artists I've ever come across.

A very good reason for a weekend in Oslo...

http://www.nasjonalmuseet.no/en/collect ... al_museum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;