The Barcl.... npower Championship

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by si2008 » Mon May 14, 2012 8:18 pm

i,m another looking forward to next season...my season ticket and my daughters have been bought looking forward to showing the daughter some away grounds where i use to go to watching the whites many a year ago.....its going to be a positive 2012/2013 season and hopefully to top it off promotion and let my daughter celebrate instead of what we have had to put up with in last couple of season,s

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by BenHammers » Mon May 14, 2012 8:19 pm

There's still a decent amount of coverage in the championship. 13 of west hams championship games were televised live on skysports/BBC. Plus Skysports post highlights after each game on your teams page

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 14, 2012 8:21 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:As I've repeatedly said for a couple of months now, I'm not phased by relegation and frankly, I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON :D

For the first time in 3 years I'm having a season ticket, and I've every intention of doing a good few away matches. New grounds, proper football and the knowledge that every week we could win....it's everything the Premiership should be.
I was going to say hear, hear. However, apparently in modern vernacular that's now 'fecking A' :oyea:


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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 14, 2012 8:28 pm

BenHammers wrote:There's still a decent amount of coverage in the championship. 13 of west hams championship games were televised live on skysports/BBC. Plus Skysports post highlights after each game on your teams page
Saw a few Old Boltonians games last season ;)
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Worthy4England » Mon May 14, 2012 8:32 pm

There would be a great sense of achievement if we make it up again next year. Whilst I've managed to celebrate "staying up", "qualifying for Europe", "getting to Cup Finals" etc. Going back up would be a great party.

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Post by P.O.S. » Mon May 14, 2012 8:40 pm

BenHammers wrote:There's still a decent amount of coverage in the championship. 13 of west hams championship games were televised live on skysports/BBC. Plus Skysports post highlights after each game on your teams page

With BBC scrapping its coverage (obviously youre nothing if youre not Premier League), it might be harder to see much action unless youre there or have Sky which I dont.

As a West Ham fan, how often were you finding your games re-arranged for telly? One of the gripes I had about Premier League was how you could never really make travel plans far in advance because your fixtures would always get chopped and changed.

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by TKIZ! » Mon May 14, 2012 8:44 pm

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Bijou Bob » Mon May 14, 2012 8:48 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
BenHammers wrote:There's still a decent amount of coverage in the championship. 13 of west hams championship games were televised live on skysports/BBC. Plus Skysports post highlights after each game on your teams page
Saw a few Old Boltonians games last season ;)
I refereed a few!
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by TTID » Mon May 14, 2012 8:48 pm

Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by BenHammers » Mon May 14, 2012 8:56 pm

P.O.S. wrote:
BenHammers wrote:There's still a decent amount of coverage in the championship. 13 of west hams championship games were televised live on skysports/BBC. Plus Skysports post highlights after each game on your teams page

With BBC scrapping its coverage (obviously youre nothing if youre not Premier League), it might be harder to see much action unless youre there or have Sky which I dont.

As a West Ham fan, how often were you finding your games re-arranged for telly? One of the gripes I had about Premier League was how you could never really make travel plans far in advance because your fixtures would always get chopped and changed.

I'd say it's pretty much the same as the premier league. A lot of west ham fans were so annoyed the Brighton away fixture was moved from a Saturday to a night in the middle of the week without a lot of notice. Many of the games at the beginning of the season were adjusted from Saturday's to Sunday's purely for tv coverage..even the first game of the season moved to a sunday

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by bobo the clown » Mon May 14, 2012 9:32 pm

Wandering Willy wrote:No - if you go back up your parachute payments are replaced with the regular Sky PL money.

No double dipping.
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 14, 2012 9:35 pm

TTID wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
Seriously, this whole 'Football only started 20 years ago' thing feck* me off quite like nothing else does! :evil:

(Though factually I don't doubt that you're correct)
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Annoyed Grunt » Mon May 14, 2012 9:41 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
TTID wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
Seriously, this whole 'Football only started 20 years ago' thing feck me off quite like nothing else does! :evil:

(Though factually I don't doubt that you're correct)
Both Millwall and Brighton have played top flight football...old Division 1.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon May 14, 2012 9:47 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TTID wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
Seriously, this whole 'Football only started 20 years ago' thing feck me off quite like nothing else does! :evil:

(Though factually I don't doubt that you're correct)
Both Millwall and Brighton have played top flight football...old Division 1.
As did Bristol City. Anyone remember Gowlings opening day screamer?
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by bobo the clown » Mon May 14, 2012 9:48 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TTID wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
Seriously, this whole 'Football only started 20 years ago' thing feck me off quite like nothing else does! :evil:

(Though factually I don't doubt that you're correct)
Both Millwall and Brighton have played top flight football...old Division 1.
... as have Bristol City & Cardiff.

How shite must Peterborough be ?!?!
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 14, 2012 9:50 pm

Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TTID wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
Seriously, this whole 'Football only started 20 years ago' thing feck me off quite like nothing else does! :evil:

(Though factually I don't doubt that you're correct)
Both Millwall and Brighton have played top flight football...old Division 1.
As have Bristol City. My first match watching the Wanderers in the top flight was against Bristol City at Burnden in 1978. Gowling scored for us. Am pretty sure that Gerry Gow scored an absolute beauty for them. It was on MotD too. My Nana and Grandad let me stay up to watch it too, despite my Nana saying "You've already seen it once". Strange the stuff we remember! :?
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by Worthy4England » Mon May 14, 2012 9:56 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Annoyed Grunt wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
TTID wrote:Correct me if i am wrong but i think only 5 of the clubs currently in the Championship have not played in the Premier League

(League 1 play-off not withstanding)

Bristol City
Cardiff
Millwall
Peterborough
Brighton

Strong league.
Seriously, this whole 'Football only started 20 years ago' thing feck me off quite like nothing else does! :evil:

(Though factually I don't doubt that you're correct)
Both Millwall and Brighton have played top flight football...old Division 1.
As have Bristol City. My first match watching the Wanderers in the top flight was against Bristol City at Burnden in 1978. Gowling scored for us. Am pretty sure that Gerry Gow scored an absolute beauty for them. It was on MotD too. My Nana and Grandad let me stay up to watch it too, despite my Nana saying "You've already seen it once". Strange the stuff we remember! :?
Me too Brucie. I rember thinking, nice easy start to the First Division. Completely passed me by that they'd finished somewhere in the top half the season before. I'd only every really known Bolton winningbefore that - albeit as "nearlymen" for a season or two. Gerry fecking Gow broke the hopes and dreams in one 90 minute period. Bossed us from start to fecking finish.

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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue May 15, 2012 9:12 am

Wandering Willy wrote:No - if you go back up your parachute payments are replaced with the regular Sky PL money.

No double dipping.
Is this a fact WW? I always thought the parachute payments were guaranteed income no matter what.
In which case, what do they do with the money instead?
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Post by Wandering Willy » Tue May 15, 2012 9:16 am

No - just what I was told.

It makes sense though - otherwise if you went straight back up you would get your £45m (say) for being in the league that year plus £14m parachute payment for being relegated 2 years earlier.
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Re: The Barcl.... npower Championship

Post by CrazyHorse » Tue May 15, 2012 9:23 am

Wandering Willy wrote:No - just what I was told.

It makes sense though - otherwise if you went straight back up you would get your £45m (say) for being in the league that year plus £14m parachute payment for being relegated 2 years earlier.
Looks like you're bang on according to Wikipedia...
Relegation often has devastating financial consequences for club owners who not only lose TV, sponsorship and gate income but may also see the asset value of their shares in the club collapse. Some leagues offer a "parachute payment" to its relegated teams for the following years in order to protect them from bankruptcy. If a team is promoted back to the higher tier the following year then the parachute payment for the second season is distributed among the teams of the lower division.[6] There is of course a corresponding bonanza for promoted clubs.
Seems fair, though I'd much prefer the double dip if it was us benefiting from it. :)
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