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Re: Burnley vs Bolton

Post by a1 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:59 pm

i hope he's not here long enough for it , but, ive got a feeling that we'll be begging for him to debut Afobe too , and he will ,eventually, in the middle of november. we wont win or he wont score , so he'll knock it on the head and default to losing his way.

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Re: Burnley vs Bolton

Post by Leyther_Matt » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:00 pm

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Leyther_Matt wrote:They didn't look the least bit bothered to me. Knight had a big grin walking off the pitch. Sordell did a 'loadsamoney' gesture to the Burnley fans which, although I don't blame him for reacting, is just something that I'd relate to our players being more bothered about their wallets than the badge on their shirts. With or without elephants.
What sort of gesture was this? Not saying I don't believe you but he doesn't come across as the sort of person who would do such a thing.
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Re: Burnley vs Bolton

Post by as » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:14 pm

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as wrote:fecking shite.....shiter than shite.....I can handle playing that badly in the top flight but what the fuuuuuuck was that all about?

To quote Shebby Singh - he's got 3 games - lose them and he's lost Bolton fans forever.

Embarrassing, amateur, lazy, don't give a feck is how I'd some up that performance.

As for Tim Ream - he's like a fecking fairy - get stuck in you fecking gay-boy, he's a fecking centre back ffs :evil:
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While I'm here tho - has anyone ever known such a powder-puff Bowton side? With the exception of Knight (who played like he'd suddenly realised he's a giant), we were getting the same treatment that we used to dish out weekly.

The yank's missus can't have been fecked since the wedding night, Mark £8m Davies would have got out-muscled by that 3ft Olympic gymnast, Mears should concentrate on football instead of that stuuuupid poncey haircut, Ricketts should remember that he came from'tlower leagues and those international caps mean feck all coz he played for fecking Wales.

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Post by thebish » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:15 pm

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TANGODANCER wrote:It was pretty awful. But hey, let's stick with long goal kicks and banging the ball forward with one man up there then blame him for it all.
Do you still think KD is worth his starting place?
What I think is immaterial, voice your own thoughts. The system is bollox. Wouldn't be any diferent with Arjen Roben, Van Persie or Didier Drogba up there as long as wallop balls are all we have to offer.
my opinion is that having KD on is one reason why we do just that... and I also think KD has ceased to be effective in a starting role... he is badly off the pace. He isn't THE ONLY reason we lose - the problem is deeper than that - but he ain't a reason anything will turn around either...

I'd rather have had either of Arjen Roben, Van Persie or Didier Drogba to receive wallop balls than KD today - wouldn't you??

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Post by benn » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:21 pm

"Well surely fans thinking the players will 'win the league by hundreds on points' is a sign of confidence, no matter how delirious?"

More than anything else this pissed me off! As soon as the Euro's had finsihed I started to read statements similar to this on many of the forums.

I simply could not see the quality, fight, team spirit or management attributes many where taking for granted. How could they come to this conclusion given the spankings given by Norwich and Swansea last season? Our team looked inferior in most games to the opposition last year.

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Post by Leyther_Matt » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:25 pm

as wrote:While I'm here tho - has anyone ever known such a powder-puff Bowton side? With the exception of Knight (who played like he'd suddenly realised he's a giant), we were getting the same treatment that we used to dish out weekly.
You're right there. Found myself shouting "get up Eagles you soft sheite" when he was brought down by the weight of his own ego trying to get a free kick in the second half (and then lied down for a bit instead of getting off his arse and chasing back despite having only just come on) and both Chungy and Sordell were told to get up and get on with it by the referee when they went down clutching a twisted sock after a fair challenge. Next time it pisses down, stick 'em on Rivi Pike at midnight and tell 'em the last one back is banned from the darts tournament.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:35 pm

Coyle has built a team that is soft. He's like a bad version of Colin Todd and that's scary.

Despite that with just a little structure we'd easily have had too much for Burnley,

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Re: Burnley vs Bolton

Post by a1 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:35 pm

megson tried that running up rivi pike shit and even he admited it didnt work.

i think i'd take him back just coz of that.

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Post by Martin_Cruise » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:46 pm

Megson played a team of too many defensive players and here we have the complete opposite.My heart sank when I heard we were lining up 4-4-2 with Lee, Petrov and Davies as 3 of the midfield four.That line up is going to have to score 3 and 4 to win away games.Lightweight as f..k.

I can't decide whether McCann on the right wing against Sunderland on the opening day or this shambles was the worst.Whatever Coyle is going to be out of work if he doesn't learn quickly.

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Post by a1 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:53 pm

Martin_Cruise wrote:Megson played a team of too many defensive players and here we have the complete opposite.My heart sank when I heard we were lining up 4-4-2 with Lee, Petrov and Davies as 3 of the midfield four.That line up is going to have to score 3 and 4 to win away games.Lightweight as f..k.

I can't decide whether McCann on the right wing against Sunderland on the opening day or this shambles was the worst.Whatever Coyle is going to be out of work if he doesn't learn quickly.
the sunderland game only seemed worse coz it were when the bedsheet fcuk-heads lost patience after about six months even though we stopped up.

i wish i could go back in time and beat every one of those fcuk-ers up.

when do we play hull at home ?

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Post by Martin_Cruise » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:57 pm

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Martin_Cruise wrote:Megson played a team of too many defensive players and here we have the complete opposite.My heart sank when I heard we were lining up 4-4-2 with Lee, Petrov and Davies as 3 of the midfield four.That line up is going to have to score 3 and 4 to win away games.Lightweight as f..k.

I can't decide whether McCann on the right wing against Sunderland on the opening day or this shambles was the worst.Whatever Coyle is going to be out of work if he doesn't learn quickly.
the sunderland game only seemed worse coz it were when the bedsheet fcuk-heads lost patience after about six months even though we stopped up.

i wish i could go back in time and beat every one of those fcuk-ers up.

when do we play hull at home ?
It'll be in the New Year some time.Coyle won't last that long if he goes away from home playing 4-4-2 with 3 fairies in his midfield

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Post by truewhite15 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:57 pm

23rd of February is Hull at home.

Coyle either needs to turn this around sharpish, or feck off come mid-September. The Watford game on the 15th is the target, for me. We play Derby, Forest, Watford at home and Hull away. Being completely realistic here, if we don't have 8 points at least from those four, it'll be clear that we're in no shape to be promoted. Thus, Coyle will have failed in his seasonal objective for the second year running, and he NEEDS to be out of the door.

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Re: Burnley vs Bolton

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:00 pm

thebish wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
thebish wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:It was pretty awful. But hey, let's stick with long goal kicks and banging the ball forward with one man up there then blame him for it all.
Do you still think KD is worth his starting place?
What I think is immaterial, voice your own thoughts. The system is bollox. Wouldn't be any diferent with Arjen Roben, Van Persie or Didier Drogba up there as long as wallop balls are all we have to offer.
my opinion is that having KD on is one reason why we do just that... and I also think KD has ceased to be effective in a starting role... he is badly off the pace. He isn't THE ONLY reason we lose - the problem is deeper than that - but he ain't a reason anything will turn around either...

I'd rather have had either of Arjen Roben, Van Persie or Didier Drogba to receive wallop balls than KD today - wouldn't you??
Are you quite deliberately missing the point here? I never mentioned Davies particualrly and already said it's the system that's wrong. Cannon-ball goal kicks and balls banged randomly and much of the time with not much accuracy into the opposition half, hopefully to one man wandering about on his own, just will not work. How many decent teams do it? Did Bogdan throw the ball to a Bolton player once today? If he did I must have missed it. We need football, not hoof ball. The last bit is just too soft a question to answer.
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Post by hi there, i'm chris » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:01 pm

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hi there, i'm chris wrote:
Leyther_Matt wrote:They didn't look the least bit bothered to me. Knight had a big grin walking off the pitch. Sordell did a 'loadsamoney' gesture to the Burnley fans which, although I don't blame him for reacting, is just something that I'd relate to our players being more bothered about their wallets than the badge on their shirts. With or without elephants.
What sort of gesture was this? Not saying I don't believe you but he doesn't come across as the sort of person who would do such a thing.
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Post by William the White » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:03 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle has built a team that is soft. He's like a bad version of Colin Todd and that's scary.

Despite that with just a little structure we'd easily have had too much for Burnley,
Just to have a little respect for history - Colin Todd, in this division, managed the team that broke pretty much every record for good performance in the entire history of Bolton Wanderers... In what sense was that team 'soft'?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:05 pm

William the White wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle has built a team that is soft. He's like a bad version of Colin Todd and that's scary.

Despite that with just a little structure we'd easily have had too much for Burnley,
Just to have a little respect for history - Colin Todd, in this division, managed the team that broke pretty much every record for good performance in the entire history of Bolton Wanderers... In what sense was that team 'soft'?
He did, but he never has us organised and we always had a soft underbelly. Look at the season after he'd taken us down second time around. Remind you of how we looked today? Did me. Soft. Despite having superior players.

Anyways, I did say a 'bad version'.

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Post by a1 » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:07 pm

William the White wrote:
Just to have a little respect for history - Colin Todd, in this division, managed the team that broke pretty much every record for good performance in the entire history of Bolton Wanderers... In what sense was that team 'soft'?
colin todd nearly bankrupted us. and didnt keep us up either time. then fecked up with a horrible end to a season to not take us back up the third time.
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Post by thebish » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:07 pm

TANGODANCER wrote: Are you quite deliberately missing the point here? I never mentioned Davies particualrly and already said it's the system that's wrong. Cannon-ball goal kicks and balls banged randomly and much of the time with not much accuracy into the opposition half, hopefully to one man wandering about on his own, just will not work. How many decent teams do it? Did Bogdan throw the ball to a Bolton player once today? If he did I must have missed it. We need football, not hoof ball. The last bit is just too soft a question to answer.
I'm just interested given your backing for him during the pre-season against what you called the other "fancy-dan" strikers, whether you still thought he should start...

it's not that controversial a question is it?

anyway - didn't we play TWO up front today?

(the last bit came from you saying those 3 players would not have made any difference.)

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Post by hi there, i'm chris » Sat Aug 18, 2012 11:08 pm

William the White wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Coyle has built a team that is soft. He's like a bad version of Colin Todd and that's scary.

Despite that with just a little structure we'd easily have had too much for Burnley,
Just to have a little respect for history - Colin Todd, in this division, managed the team that broke pretty much every record for good performance in the entire history of Bolton Wanderers... In what sense was that team 'soft'?
To be fair, I remember coming back from Vale Park after we drew 1-1 with Port Vale on the opening day of that season with similar feelings as today, despite it only being a draw.

We also conceded 5 away to Southend a few games later IIRC. Although we did beat Man City. How times have changed.
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