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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by James B » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:45 am

is it even vaguely hopeful he'll switch from 4-4-2 for this?

thought not :/

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by General Mannerheim » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:46 am

soon to be four points from four games.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:56 am

He played 4-5-1 away at a lower-division team, which indicates he might be happy to do so away in the league.

However, he also dismantled that 4-5-1 to reintroduce the captain, which indicates... oh I don't know... finish the sentence yourself.

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:01 pm

Verbal wrote:Steve Bruce is probably one of the only managers I would consider with less tactical nous than our Owen.

I'll stick my neck out and say we'll win this. Comfortably.
Why? Is steve bruce really more clueless than captain clueless?

I think we'll lose even though we should have a fair chance of winning. I think we'll play 442 and there will be some stupid substitution at some point that takes the game away from us.I cant see us picking up more than a point a game with coyle in charge evenat a lower level and I cant see spearing being a little fella with a big heart being capable of plugging all the holes necessary to make things better.

I admire your ability to see some hope somewhere. I hope you have better eyes than me.

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by CrazyHorse » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:04 pm

They'll tear us to smithereens. It's pointless even discussing it further.
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:05 pm

Have we EVER beaten a team managed by Steve Bruce?
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by jaffka » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:06 pm

boltonboris wrote:Have we EVER beaten a team managed by Steve Bruce?
That kant seems to have the hoodoo over us.

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Verbal » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:08 pm

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:
Verbal wrote:Steve Bruce is probably one of the only managers I would consider with less tactical nous than our Owen.

I'll stick my neck out and say we'll win this. Comfortably.
Why? Is steve bruce really more clueless than captain clueless?

I think we'll lose even though we should have a fair chance of winning. I think we'll play 442 and there will be some stupid substitution at some point that takes the game away from us.I cant see us picking up more than a point a game with coyle in charge evenat a lower level and I cant see spearing being a little fella with a big heart being capable of plugging all the holes necessary to make things better.

I admire your ability to see some hope somewhere. I hope you have better eyes than me.
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Post by Tombwfc » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:10 pm

We put three or four past Wigan and Birmingham at home under Megson I think. He must have been managing one of them at that point.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:15 pm

Tombwfc wrote:We put three or four past Wigan and Birmingham at home under Megson I think. He must have been managing one of them at that point.
Wigan, IIRC. Megson seemed to beat pretty much all of our rivals at least once, even the rags.

Still a massive knobhead, though.

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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:26 pm

Even the sensible/conservative/old* ones have turned now. :wink:

Two possible scenarios. 1) we start winning or 2) we don't start winning and Coyle goes. Not sure he'll go after Hull but there is a break coming up so it would give us some time.

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Post by General Mannerheim » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:30 pm

CrazyHorse wrote:They'll tear us to smithereens. It's pointless even discussing it further.
wow, ive never seen smithereens written down in word form before!

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Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:33 pm

Given the fall in revenue after relegation, I would have thought the club were banking on a couple of cup runs for the income, so after last night's result I think the writing could well be on the wall for Coyle and nothing less than 5 points from the next 3 games will do.

Struggling to call it for this one, but I'm thinking a win is on the cards. 2-1 cos there's not a hope in hell we'll keep a clean sheet.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:35 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:Even the sensible/conservative/old* ones have turned now. :wink:

Two possible scenarios. 1) we start winning or 2) we don't start winning and Coyle goes. Not sure he'll go after Hull but there is a break coming up so it would give us some time.

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Thing is, and as much as I will get mocked no doubt for saying this, I'm not one to normally call for a managers head. Not until the last possible moment at least.

But in Coyle's case I was utterly convinced he was taking us down this season, and the start of this season leaves me convinced that we are just treading water while he is in charge.

The point at which I realised how bad things were was Chelsea at home last season. We did actually play a 4-5-1 of sorts. And NGog was up front. I remember Luiz went right through our midfield up to 6 yards away from our area before a half hearted challenge. And thought "any minute now Coyle's going to tell a midfield player to pick Luiz up when he comes out with the ball" rather than let him part our midfield like the red sea. But no. He did it again. And again. And again. And Coyle sat there.

I knew then that we were fooked.

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by boltonboris » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:37 pm

5 points from the next 3 games is the VERY minumum requirement. I'm expecting 6. Would be delighted with 7. Ecstatic with 9.
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:39 pm

boltonboris wrote:5 points from the next 3 games is the VERY minumum requirement. I'm expecting 6. Would be delighted with 7. Ecstatic with 9.
You're expecting 6 from Hull and Brum away and Watford at home?

Are you on acid?

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by boltonboris » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:41 pm

Yes, because of the players at our disposal.. Not because I have any faith in 'him'
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:42 pm

boltonboris wrote:Yes, because of the players at our disposal.. Not because I have any faith in 'him'
That little run of games looks harder than the three we've just played, and we got 4.

I'm expecting us to beat Watford and lose the other two.

And I'm not exactly hopeful of that......

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:43 pm

boltonboris wrote:Yes, because of the players at our disposal.. Not because I have any faith in 'him'
Are we going to start an acronym like HWSNBN had?
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Bijou Bob » Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:51 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:
boltonboris wrote:Yes, because of the players at our disposal.. Not because I have any faith in 'him'
Are we going to start an acronym like HWSNBN had?
HWSSNBSA??

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