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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:41 am

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:It's kind of bizarre to see Knight thriving but good on him he's head and shoulders above anyone else at present. We're so bad now he's well on his way to becoming a cult hero!
indeed, credit and kudos to him. Not everybody was convinced by his re-signing but we'd be awful without him. Credit also to Coyle for re-signing him. I'll say it again, the squad is capable.

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Post by Hoboh » Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:43 am

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Ianmooreslovechild wrote:It's kind of bizarre to see Knight thriving but good on him he's head and shoulders above anyone else at present. We're so bad now he's well on his way to becoming a cult hero!
indeed, credit and kudos to him. Not everybody was convinced by his re-signing but we'd be awful without him. Credit also to Coyle for re-signing him. I'll say it again, the squad is capable. If managed and coached correctly.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:05 pm

Indeed. Hence 'squad' :?

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Sponge » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:51 pm

I'm a masochist – are the goals viewable online somewhere?

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:52 pm

Just seen the highlights for the first time and im even more fvcked off shocking goals to concede

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:53 pm

Sponge wrote:I'm a masochist – are the goals viewable online somewhere?
Trust me you don't want to see them

I saw them on the wanderers player
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Post by Gail Platz » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:03 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
Sponge wrote:I'm a masochist – are the goals viewable online somewhere?
Trust me you don't want to see them

I saw them on the wanderers player
I'll take your word for it. I'm already pissed off, I don't want to be even more pissed off!

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Post by Armchair Wanderer » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:05 pm

Gail Platz wrote:
plymouth wanderer wrote:
Sponge wrote:I'm a masochist – are the goals viewable online somewhere?
Trust me you don't want to see them

I saw them on the wanderers player
I'll take your word for it. I'm already pissed off, I don't want to be even more pissed off!
The football league show is on BBC iplayer, just watched the goals. Farcical. It would be funny but...
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by Sponge » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:23 pm

Just saw the highlights. Holy feck. The goals are shocking, but even more disturbing is the body language and general demeanour of the players.

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by BL3 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:26 pm

Prufrock wrote:He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them.
He only signed half of the team that started yesterday. We're missing Wheater who he did buy and who would be an automatic starter if he wasn't injured. Mears has hardly played at all in the last 12 months. Same with Mills and Lee. Add to that the likes of Holden and N'gog who haven't played this season and it's less surprising that we're struggling.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:48 pm

BL3 wrote:
Prufrock wrote:He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them.
He only signed half of the team that started yesterday. We're missing Wheater who he did buy and who would be an automatic starter if he wasn't injured. Mears has hardly played at all in the last 12 months. Same with Mills and Lee. Add to that the likes of Holden and N'gog who haven't played this season and it's less surprising that we're struggling.
By my reckoning he's signed every single player in that side yesterday, either as a new player or by offering them a contract at some point.

Any inadequacies are entirely his fault.

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Post by SmokinFrazier » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:54 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
BL3 wrote:
Prufrock wrote:He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them.
He only signed half of the team that started yesterday. We're missing Wheater who he did buy and who would be an automatic starter if he wasn't injured. Mears has hardly played at all in the last 12 months. Same with Mills and Lee. Add to that the likes of Holden and N'gog who haven't played this season and it's less surprising that we're struggling.
By my reckoning he's signed every single player in that side yesterday, either as a new player or by offering them a contract at some point.

Any inadequacies are entirely his fault.
You can't fault him for re-signing these players because even if they aren't good enough, they aren't worth anything on the market and to get a suitable replacement would cost millions. To sign someone who is better, right now, than Davies or Knight would set us back quite a bit which, unfortunately, we can't afford to do. Offering a new contract is the only solution to keeping a good squad. If we had got rid of those players and signed replacements we actually could afford, they wouldn't be as good as the players Coyle signed to a longer deal.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:57 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: By my reckoning he's signed every single player in that side yesterday, either as a new player or by offering them a contract at some point.
Any inadequacies are entirely his fault.
Offering players new contracts doesn't involve laying out on transfer/agents fees etc that we couldn't afford at the time. Not in defence of Coyle, but that's a bit of a conflicting statement to BL3's post.
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:57 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
BL3 wrote:
Prufrock wrote:He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them.
He only signed half of the team that started yesterday. We're missing Wheater who he did buy and who would be an automatic starter if he wasn't injured. Mears has hardly played at all in the last 12 months. Same with Mills and Lee. Add to that the likes of Holden and N'gog who haven't played this season and it's less surprising that we're struggling.
By my reckoning he's signed every single player in that side yesterday, either as a new player or by offering them a contract at some point.

Any inadequacies are entirely his fault.
You can't fault him for re-signing these players because even if they aren't good enough, they aren't worth anything on the market and to get a suitable replacement would cost millions. To sign someone who is better, right now, than Davies or Knight would set us back quite a bit which, unfortunately, we can't afford to do. Offering a new contract is the only solution to keeping a good squad. If we had got rid of those players and signed replacements we actually could afford, they wouldn't be as good as the players Coyle signed to a longer deal.
Right

Michu 2m - Marcos alonso 2.5mill

Enough said
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:01 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
BL3 wrote:
Prufrock wrote:He'll come out and say we were undone by individual mistakes, and we were, but that doesn't mean it isn't your fault Owen! You bought them, and you keep picking them.
He only signed half of the team that started yesterday. We're missing Wheater who he did buy and who would be an automatic starter if he wasn't injured. Mears has hardly played at all in the last 12 months. Same with Mills and Lee. Add to that the likes of Holden and N'gog who haven't played this season and it's less surprising that we're struggling.
By my reckoning he's signed every single player in that side yesterday, either as a new player or by offering them a contract at some point.

Any inadequacies are entirely his fault.
You can't fault him for re-signing these players because even if they aren't good enough, they aren't worth anything on the market and to get a suitable replacement would cost millions. To sign someone who is better, right now, than Davies or Knight would set us back quite a bit which, unfortunately, we can't afford to do. Offering a new contract is the only solution to keeping a good squad. If we had got rid of those players and signed replacements we actually could afford, they wouldn't be as good as the players Coyle signed to a longer deal.
Coyle himself has said this is the squad he wants and the one we would have had if we had stayed in the premiership (with the additional expensive 'very good young players' he'd have added).

If he didn't want any, he simply didn't need to offer them a contract in the same way as he released Klasnic, Steinsson et al....

Quite simply even Coyle isn't hiding behind the squad, he's assembled it and he's man enough to admit its exactly what he wants and more than good enough to go up.

He's not made the excuse so don't see why folk are doing it for him?

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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:04 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
He's not made the excuse so don't see why folk are doing it for him?
probably just to piss you off - cos you seem to have a mission to change the minds of anyone who doesn't 100% agree with every little point you make...

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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:08 pm

Armchair Wanderer wrote:
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plymouth wanderer wrote:
Sponge wrote:I'm a masochist – are the goals viewable online somewhere?
Trust me you don't want to see them

I saw them on the wanderers player
I'll take your word for it. I'm already pissed off, I don't want to be even more pissed off!
The football league show is on BBC iplayer, just watched the goals. Farcical. It would be funny but...
Come on the goals are comedy gold.Where's your sense of humour. My favourite is the 2nd. Watch closely and you can see Faye take a deep breath before blowing two defenders over who manage to take out Bogdan aswell leaving Faye with a free header. Incredible athlete Faye. Amazing lung capacity

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:11 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
He's not made the excuse so don't see why folk are doing it for him?
probably just to piss you off - cos you seem to have a mission to change the minds of anyone who doesn't 100% agree with every little point you make...

And you make it a mission to disagree with everything he says because your all over his posts like a tramp on chips
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Re: 'Ull V Bolton

Post by BL3 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:13 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:Right

Michu 2m - Marcos alonso 2.5mill

Enough said
What wages is Michu on?

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Post by thebish » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:20 pm

plymouth wanderer wrote:
thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
He's not made the excuse so don't see why folk are doing it for him?
probably just to piss you off - cos you seem to have a mission to change the minds of anyone who doesn't 100% agree with every little point you make...
And you make it a mission to disagree with everything he says because your all over his posts like a tramp on chips
zzzzzzzzzzzzz.......

can YOU think of a more likely reason why people might defend Coyle? I'm all ears! :wink:

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