Now he's gone, who's next?

[Norpig]

James Beattie was at Bolton train station today, talking about contracts on the phone whilst in the waiting room. Then he got off at Horwich Parkway, around 12:15.

Player? Manager? Coincidence? I'll let you decide.

Saw him in Halfords he is there new manager

[boltonboris]

The same James Beattie who most probably lives in the area?

[Relentless09]

Politics, ideological views and religion should have nothing to do with football. If Di Caneo is the man to take us up and provide a stable long term plan, who cares about his so called views ? Now it would be different if he only played white Christian players and delibrately didn't play/sign other races and religions, that would be a complete disgrace

you appear to be contradicting yourself!

and I disagree with your first clause... I, personally, would not want a self-confessed racist managing our club. I think a football club is about MORE than football - it is also about local community and identity. so - I think political ideology CAN be important.

I'm just genuinely unsure about all the claims that surround Di Canio. I wanted to know if anyone on here really knew anything about what he actually believes and how that affects the way he makes decisions or lives his life... but it seems nobody does..

As it happens, I wouldn't have di canio (if it was my choice) simply because he seems a bit unstable to me - and I think we need summat solid and dependable at this particular juncture!

I didn't think I was contradicting myself and certainly didn't mean too. I'm just saying those 3 views shouldn't be allowed in football and I was giving an example of how it might happen in football and if that example was happening, it would be a disgrace

[thebish]

Politics, ideological views and religion should have nothing to do with football. If Di Caneo is the man to take us up and provide a stable long term plan, who cares about his so called views ? Now it would be different if he only played white Christian players and delibrately didn't play/sign other races and religions, that would be a complete disgrace

you appear to be contradicting yourself!

and I disagree with your first clause... I, personally, would not want a self-confessed racist managing our club. I think a football club is about MORE than football - it is also about local community and identity. so - I think political ideology CAN be important.

I'm just genuinely unsure about all the claims that surround Di Canio. I wanted to know if anyone on here really knew anything about what he actually believes and how that affects the way he makes decisions or lives his life... but it seems nobody does..

As it happens, I wouldn't have di canio (if it was my choice) simply because he seems a bit unstable to me - and I think we need summat solid and dependable at this particular juncture!

I didn't think I was contradicting myself and certainly didn't mean too. I'm just saying those 3 views shouldn't be allowed in football and I was giving an example of how it might happen in football and if that example was happening, it would be a disgrace

oh - i must have misunderstood you! it looked like you were saying we shouldn't care about someone's ideological views in football management - and then you described some ideological views that you thought would be a disgrace in football manager...

[TANGODANCER]

The '"Hail", salute, raising an arm to show respect, and the swastika emblem go way back in history, long before people made them mean something else for their own ends. Despite whoever used them, the salute and the emblem are remembered more in people's heads than in reality. Never knew a sign that killed anybody, just the people waving them about. The Cross and the Star and Crescent spring to mind. You could add the Union Jack, Stars and Stripes, Rising Sun, Star of David, Hammer and Sickle and a whole lot more to them where killing people are concerned. .

[plymouth wanderer]

Could't be bothered to see if it's been posted

But

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[thebish]

Could't be bothered to see if it's been posted

But

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it has - accompanied by some mirth!

why are the calling one of the other possibles Ole Gunnary Solskjaer?

[Relentless09]

If anyone is interested, Nixon is playing his games and giving some hints. Gary Neville was suggested he replied something like if you want a pundit with class who is the best ? Wilkins and Hoddle were mentioned, he said no, says he tells it how it is because he's been out there and he would scare the sh*te out of you

[mrpiccollo]

Could't be bothered to see if it's been posted

But

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news ... -at-Bolton" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

allways hated how we let Campo leave the club he really did everything he could for the team and was a great player for us, i personally would love to see campo back at bolton be that in an assistant manager position or as full manager.


though its sad to see a former club legend in coyle leave and be lauded by the media as a great manager after all he hasnt done for us in the past 2 years id still have someone with club experience here over anyone else i recall someone posting the HIERRO CAMPO team as something possible and personally would love to see some of our most experienced and loved players back at bolton.


heres hoping our next managerial apointment is someone who can attract players and have us put out a side that doesent buckle under the slightest pressure like we have had recently^^

[Armchair Wanderer]

If anyone is interested, Nixon is playing his games and giving some hints. Gary Neville was suggested he replied something like if you want a pundit with class who is the best ? Wilkins and Hoddle were mentioned, he said no, says he tells it how it is because he's been out there and he would scare the sh*te out of you

George Best???

Who's a good pundit? Alan Hanson? Andy Townsend?

I think I'm hot on the case of our next manager here, we'll sniff him out in no time!

[Sponge]

If anyone is interested, Nixon is playing his games and giving some hints. Gary Neville was suggested he replied something like if you want a pundit with class who is the best ? Wilkins and Hoddle were mentioned, he said no, says he tells it how it is because he's been out there and he would scare the sh*te out of you

George Best???

Who's a good pundit? Alan Hanson? Andy Townsend?

I think I'm hot on the case of our next manager here, we'll sniff him out in no time!

Alan Shearer?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

I've done a little asking about Paolo di Canio. I know a few Swindon fans, and the club has in the past had some dealings with us. And the sense I'm very strongly getting is that we should stay away. Nothing to do with Di Canio's political beliefs (if they exist): just his man-management and the general carnage that surrounds it.

"Everything goes through the media," says one source. "It terrifies the club." Most fans ended up backing him in the argument with goalkeeper Wes Foderingham but fear that it may have emboldened him to do more of the same: public humiliation, trial by media.

And it's not just his underlings: after the tribunal fee triggered an FFP-enforced transfer embargo, PdC couldn't wait to tell the media how the board needed to sort this out and needed to back him financially if they want another promotion – something Swindon fans could barely believe given the amount they've paid in transfers and (notably) agent fees and the subsequent strength of their squad: "He's got two or three good players for every position except goalkeeper, which is his own fault."

There is disquiet that his confrontational methods, which have worked so far, will get less respect as he moves (or they move) up the divisions. Some of the newer players brought in from Championship level have found themselves "in and out of the team" after quietly enquiring why Swindon were doing double training as a matter of course rather than necessity. Of course, after the allegedly lax regime Bolton have had, the idea of a confrontational manager who has them in all day might sound like sweet music to the ears of disenchanted Wanderers, but I would worry that Di Canio might go too far in the other direction, too soon.

You simply don't get the impression he picks his fights or keeps things in-house, as a certain purple-faced septuagenarian down the road tends to do. I dislike stereotypes but evidence suggests that Di Canio's a hot-head - not because he's Italian or Roman, but he just is. And I that his personality type simply won't work higher up the league, or at least won't work for long and won't work for all players. Ostracising a lower-league player costs a lot less than sidelining someone like, for instance, Martin Petrov. One word used to describe him was "bully". Players who've been around a bit tend not to react well to that sort of thing: they just mark time and sit out their contracts, contrary to the system set up by Eddie Davies and Phil Gartside (and willingly signed up to by Owen Coyle).

The Swindon folks I spoke to suspect "it will all end badly" - whether in "financial meltdown" or him walking out, either for a better job or if it all goes wrong. They think he'd be interested in the job and whispers have already started to that effect, although that could well be the media looking to hoist an entertaining manager closer to the spotlight.

I'm glad Paolo di Canio exists, but I'm glad he doesn't manage my club. Not because of any suspect politics, but because of suspect management: I fear he may in time turn out to be an overspending autodidact media whore who thinks himself better than any club he's at. So no thanks.

[Sponge]

I've done a little asking about Paolo di Canio. I know a few Swindon fans, and the club has in the past had some dealings with us. And the sense I'm very strongly getting is that we should stay away. Nothing to do with Di Canio's political beliefs (if they exist): just his man-management and the general carnage that surrounds it.

"Everything goes through the media," says one source. "It terrifies the club." Most fans ended up backing him in the argument with goalkeeper Wes Foderingham but fear that it may have emboldened him to do more of the same: public humiliation, trial by media.

And it's not just his underlings: after the tribunal fee triggered an FFP-enforced transfer embargo, PdC couldn't wait to tell the media how the board needed to sort this out and needed to back him financially if they want another promotion – something Swindon fans could barely believe given the amount they've paid in transfers and (notably) agent fees and the subsequent strength of their squad: "He's got two or three good players for every position except goalkeeper, which is his own fault."

There is disquiet that his confrontational methods, which have worked so far, will get less respect as he moves (or they move) up the divisions. Some of the newer players brought in from Championship level have found themselves "in and out of the team" after quietly enquiring why Swindon were doing double training as a matter of course rather than necessity. Of course, after the allegedly lax regime Bolton have had, the idea of a confrontational manager who has them in all day might sound like sweet music to the ears of disenchanted Wanderers, but I would worry that Di Canio might go too far in the other direction, too soon.

You simply don't get the impression he picks his fights or keeps things in-house, as a certain purple-faced septuagenarian down the road tends to do. I dislike stereotypes but evidence suggests that Di Canio's a hot-head - not because he's Italian or Roman, but he just is. And I that his personality type simply won't work higher up the league, or at least won't work for long and won't work for all players. Ostracising a lower-league player costs a lot less than sidelining someone like, for instance, Martin Petrov. One word used to describe him was "bully". Players who've been around a bit tend not to react well to that sort of thing: they just mark time and sit out their contracts, contrary to the system set up by Eddie Davies and Phil Gartside (and willingly signed up to by Owen Coyle).

The Swindon folks I spoke to suspect "it will all end badly" - whether in "financial meltdown" or him walking out, either for a better job or if it all goes wrong. They think he'd be interested in the job and whispers have already started to that effect, although that could well be the media looking to hoist an entertaining manager closer to the spotlight.

I'm glad Paolo di Canio exists, but I'm glad he doesn't manage my club. Not because of any suspect politics, but because of suspect management: I fear he may in time turn out to be an overspending autodidact media whore who thinks himself better than any club he's at. So no thanks.

Thanks for the informed post. Since you probably know more about football than 90% of us on here, do you see any stand-out candidates? You've probably answered this elsewhere, but who'd be your choice?

[Wandering Willy]

Didn't have a clue which thread to put this in, but I'll be on SSN tonight between 5 - 6.

Just done an interview giving my thoughts on where it went wrong and who I think should be next.

Hopefully didn't give the site too much of a bad name!

Anyone see this? Is there a link around?

[Lord Kangana]

I think we're going to regret hounding Coyle out of a job. Its clear to anyone he was going to turn it around soon. We were in a false league position. His signings were great.

Have I missed anything else out for about 30 months time?

[Montreal Wanderer]

I just don't want a fascist in charge of the playing side of the club, tbh.

But you were okay with someone who openly went to church and prayed to an unknown, Invisible entity?

I know, Crazy isn't it that one man we have just sacked gets by with his beliefs not attacked, Yet a prospective new manager is thrown in the gutter automatically because of his. What is the world coming to.

I dunno, believing in God is somewhat different to hailing a man convicted of serious war crimes as "misunderstood and ethical". IMHO.

I'm coming to this argument late and am not taking sides, but I am a little startled by some of the misinformation.

I think it is quite clear Di Canio used the Italian fascist salute, which Mussolini took from the Romans. Hitler copied this for his Heil Hitler, but this does not mean Di Canio used a German Nazi salute. He has made his fascit views quite clear.

BWFCI says Mussolini was convicted of a serious war crime. This is simply nonsense. Mussolini, his mistress and some 15 members of his cabinet were summarily executed by Italian communist partisans 24 hours after their capture with no trial. Their bodies were treated disgracefully. This does not mean Mussolini would not have been tried for war crimes by the International Military Tribunal or that he would not have been found guilty. We'll never know because he was essentially murdered - in itself a war crime.

[officer_dibble]

I think Campo is my favouritest suggestion. Im sure it wouldnt go tits up!

hmmm 90's strikers...mixu paatelainen anyone?

[Worthy4England]

I think we're going to regret hounding Coyle out of a job. Its clear to anyone he was going to turn it around soon. We were in a false league position. His signings were great.

Have I missed anything else out for about 30 months time?

It would have got much, much worse, we'd have been in Div 2 in 30 months time. So we need to compare whoever comes in with that baseline.

[Montreal Wanderer]

It seems to me the new manager will have to manage with the players we have as there will not be millions in the kitty. Therefore we will need someone with a game plan and the ability to make our existing (really pretty good for this level) players execute it. I have no idea who this should be but I'm not sure a foreigner is the answer at this stage. I voted for Curbishley in the poll but I would discount my opinions here as I do not know enough about the other candidates. Gartside's track record has not been brilliant since Big Sam, though I was surprised how Coyle lost it last season and couldn't find it this season.

[H. Pedersen]

Mussolini, his mistress and some 15 members of his cabinet were summarily executed by Italian communist partisans 24 hours after their capture with no trial. Their bodies were treated disgracefully. This does not mean Mussolini would not have been tried for war crimes by the International Military Tribunal or that he would not have been found guilty. We'll never know because he was essentially murdered - in itself a war crime.

I find it hard to condemn people who have been brutally opressed for taking revenge on their opressors. I sort of doubt I would have done anything differently if I was in the position of Ceaușescu's firign squad or Gaddafi's executioners.

Well, I guess I wouldn't have shoved a knife up Gaddafi's rear so it would have been a little different.