Now he's gone, who's next?

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Who would you like to see replacing Owen Coyle?

Alan Curbishley
15
12%
Paolo di Canio
9
7%
Billy Davies
9
7%
Keith Hill
5
4%
Roy Keane
1
1%
Mick McCarthy
12
9%
Gary Neville
10
8%
A rising lower-league boss (eg Micky Mellon)
11
9%
BWFC legend (eg Hierro/Gudni/McGinlay)
10
8%
Someone from abroad (eg Solskjaer)
35
27%
Someone from within (LSL/Jiminho/Didsy/Zico)
3
2%
AN Other
8
6%
 
Total votes: 128

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:23 am

BL3 wrote:
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:
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ohjimmyjimmy wrote:At some poijnt a good new manager or coaching team will have to do the same, and have their first successful job that launches them or has them discovered.
They need to do their learning in the lower leagues rather than at a club which needs to win promotion this season.
If the only crriteria they're going off is 'must win promotion this season', then i suspect McCarthy would already be firmly ensconsed.

I suspect the board are looking a little more long-term (but no longer than 2 years) but granted no experience whatsover is not a good selling-point for the project.
Every indication is that they're looking at winning promotion this season. Gartside has said it often enough. McCarthy may not want the job.
I've no doubt they're looking to do it this season, but i doubt it's the be-all and end-all in appointing the manager.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BL3 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:30 am

ohjimmyjimmy wrote:
BL3 wrote:
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:
BL3 wrote:
ohjimmyjimmy wrote:At some poijnt a good new manager or coaching team will have to do the same, and have their first successful job that launches them or has them discovered.
They need to do their learning in the lower leagues rather than at a club which needs to win promotion this season.
If the only crriteria they're going off is 'must win promotion this season', then i suspect McCarthy would already be firmly ensconsed.

I suspect the board are looking a little more long-term (but no longer than 2 years) but granted no experience whatsover is not a good selling-point for the project.
Every indication is that they're looking at winning promotion this season. Gartside has said it often enough. McCarthy may not want the job.
I've no doubt they're looking to do it this season, but i doubt it's the be-all and end-all in appointing the manager.
I suspect that it's the only criteria, given that it will be much more difficult next season, otherwise they might as well have perservered with Coyle. Perhaps that's why Solskjaer got cold feet.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:33 am

We'll beg to differ on that one - i'd be worried what sort of decisons we'll make based on that alone.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by malcd1 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:43 am

BL3 wrote:Why are people so fixated on Solskjaer? I suspect that if any of the leading candidates were managing in Norway, they'd be in with a chance of winning the League over there.
Probably because he is not one of the managers we know. None of the above if you like.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:45 am

malcd1 wrote:
BL3 wrote:Why are people so fixated on Solskjaer? I suspect that if any of the leading candidates were managing in Norway, they'd be in with a chance of winning the League over there.
Probably because he is not one of the managers we know. None of the above if you like.
Exactly. Beware false prophets bearing gifts and all that.

Safe and steady will do me, after the supposedly "exciting appointment" last time.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:47 am

And who is this safe and steady you speak of then?
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:52 am

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:18 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:The problems will arise when:

1) They'll all be asking for longer than a 9 month contract
2) They'll all be wanting to bring "their boys" with them.

I have a feeling this is why Souness's's' name has suddenly surfaced.
I really hope whoever is picking this manager gets someone suitable for promotion/next season but gives them a short contract that can be extended with success. Maybe a standard fee with bonuses for success. There should be a bounce effect with anyone new. If they're any good they should be able to get this squad in the top six. After they do that and get us up they'll be in a very good position when we talk about the contract for next season.

That's not what we normally do though :(
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by norm the jedi » Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:50 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
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BL3 wrote:Why are people so fixated on Solskjaer? I suspect that if any of the leading candidates were managing in Norway, they'd be in with a chance of winning the League over there.
Probably because he is not one of the managers we know. None of the above if you like.
Exactly. Beware false prophets bearing gifts and all that.

Safe and steady will do me, after the supposedly "exciting appointment" last time.
I thought the buzz was that he'd produced a title winning team at a club that had never come close before... No guarantee of owt else but that taken with his associations to old big nose caused the interest...
I'd also imagine if anyone with a coaching pulse could win the norwegian league some of these many 'usual suspect' candidates would have tried their hand or been approached too before now... Whereas Scandinavian import managers seem from my fractured memory to have a half decent track record over here and elsewhere...
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BL3 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:01 pm

norm the jedi wrote:I'd also imagine if anyone with a coaching pulse could win the norwegian league some of these many 'usual suspect' candidates would have tried their hand or been approached too before now...
If anyone actually gave a shit about the Norwegian league, any half-decent manager would be queueing up to boost their profile with a cheap title or two, much like they do in Scotland.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:05 pm

Didn't do Martin O'Neill much harm did it?

And that bloke at Swansea was flavour of the month a wee while back...

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Remind me how Hughes is doing again?

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:06 pm

It would have been easier 12 months back

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:07 pm

In fact, pity we didn't have Swanseas players - they'd have despatched clueless quick, sharp
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:10 pm

It probably would have been, but whats done is done.
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:14 pm

Well I'm not getting overly hung up on who we choose

He's nothing to beat in terms of bettering the last mon and we still have enough decent players that we should be at the top end of this league

Yes, there are deficiencies but if we play the right players in the right places, this jobs a piece of piss

In fact, I see no reason why Phillips and Lee can't get us through the next 6 months on relief and good will
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:20 pm

norm the jedi wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
malcd1 wrote:
BL3 wrote:Why are people so fixated on Solskjaer? I suspect that if any of the leading candidates were managing in Norway, they'd be in with a chance of winning the League over there.
Probably because he is not one of the managers we know. None of the above if you like.
Exactly. Beware false prophets bearing gifts and all that.

Safe and steady will do me, after the supposedly "exciting appointment" last time.

I thought the buzz was that he'd produced a title winning team at a club that had never come close before... No guarantee of owt else but that taken with his associations to old big nose caused the interest...

I'd also imagine if anyone with a coaching pulse could win the norwegian league some of these many 'usual suspect' candidates would have tried their hand or been approached too before now... Whereas Scandinavian import managers seem from my fractured memory to have a half decent track record over here and elsewhere...
Not hugely fussed but I'd rather the interest of oli than the dourness of souey
Exactly the same could be said of Steve McClaren (except substitue Norway for Holland).

I'm wary of young and unproven in English football, "flavours of the month".

He could be brilliant, I'd just be worried that he could equally be a disaster.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:32 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:Well I'm not getting overly hung up on who we choose

He's nothing to beat in terms of bettering the last mon and we still have enough decent players that we should be at the top end of this league

Yes, there are deficiencies but if we play the right players in the right places, this jobs a piece of piss

In fact, I see no reason why Phillips and Lee can't get us through the next 6 months on relief and good will
Interesting. You'd be happy with those 2? I mean, great if it works, but surely Gartsides ass is grass if that cocks up?
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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:45 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:Well I'm not getting overly hung up on who we choose

He's nothing to beat in terms of bettering the last mon and we still have enough decent players that we should be at the top end of this league

Yes, there are deficiencies but if we play the right players in the right places, this jobs a piece of piss

In fact, I see no reason why Phillips and Lee can't get us through the next 6 months on relief and good will
Interesting. You'd be happy with those 2? I mean, great if it works, but surely Gartsides ass is grass if that cocks up?
Of course, Eddie may well be calling the shots now.......

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by General Mannerheim » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:51 pm

PG in a bit of a win win here, Jiminho might be a revelation who knows!? 2 wins out of the next 3 might get him the job till xmas. If he does well he gets the job full time! Fans are happy, Jimmys happy and the club have saved £££ - if he turns out to be shite they can just appoint the ‘right man’ they’ve been searching for up until that point.

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Re: Now he's gone, who's next?

Post by BL3 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:03 pm

General Mannerheim wrote:PG in a bit of a win win here, Jiminho might be a revelation who knows!? 2 wins out of the next 3 might get him the job till xmas. If he does well he gets the job full time! Fans are happy, Jimmys happy and the club have saved £££ - if he turns out to be shite they can just appoint the ‘right man’ they’ve been searching for up until that point.
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