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Re: Cardiff City

Post by plymouth wanderer » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:31 pm

I did have to laugh when Petrov got smashed in the back :shock: with the ball
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Post by Mar » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:36 pm

SmokinFrazier wrote:It didn't cost us tonight but it was a ridiculous sending off and we're now without one of our best players from today in the next match.

The standards of refereeing in this division are incredibly low. I was shocked in the first few games. Now, I expect the unexpected. Some of these referees are very poor, not to mention the linesman from today who got it wrong for N'Gog's cracking goal.
The standard of refereeing is surely down to the lack of accountability in the refereeing structure. The punishments for wrong decisions aren't there, and if they were there would be harsh on the referee/linesmen for mistakes. What we need is video technology and a decent reviewing system featuring the 4th official (or even 5th).

Seems all too many times we'll be on the bad end of a refereeing decision and then it'll be let go. Cardiff will probably think the same with the N'Gog penalty.

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Re: Cardiff City

Post by Beefheart » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:37 pm

Seriously though, our best run of results and performances last season came with Ngog as a lone front man. I repeat, I don't see why people are surprised by his performance.

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Post by thebish » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:40 pm

Beefheart wrote:Seriously though, our best run of results and performances last season came with Ngog as a lone front man. I repeat, I don't see why people are surprised by his performance.
i suspect people are less surprised by his performance as by his sudden apparent confidence in front of goal...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:42 pm

thebish wrote:
Beefheart wrote:Seriously though, our best run of results and performances last season came with Ngog as a lone front man. I repeat, I don't see why people are surprised by his performance.
i suspect people are less surprised by his performance as by his sudden apparent confidence in front of goal...
The fact he shot 4 or 5 times was surprising.

Perhaps Dougie has given him some confidence?

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Post by Little Green Man » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:43 pm

thebish wrote:
Beefheart wrote:Seriously though, our best run of results and performances last season came with Ngog as a lone front man. I repeat, I don't see why people are surprised by his performance.
i suspect people are less surprised by his performance as by his sudden apparent confidence in front of goal...
I second that emotion.

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Post by Wandering Willy » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:45 pm

Feck me that were cold.

Utter shite first half. Total transformation of the team once we added a striker upfront.

Anyone who thinks KD should start another game for us needs their tangos dancing on. :)

Has Dougie finally seen the light? - I hope so. Shame Ngog can't start on Tuesday.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:48 pm

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Comparing Pratley with Speed... jesus.
I compared the role he was asked to play.....Jesus.
I find it hard to see those two men in the same sentence.

I doubt Pratley covers the same sort of ground that Speed did when he was a good 8 years older (presumably the numbers exist to verify).

My memory is of a fair bit of the ball going through Speed, a very tidy passer. Indeed I remember thinking it was him that made us make that transition up to the top 8 team we were.

Pratley being asked to do that role? Nah, only if we're talking in terms as general as 'central midfielder'.
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Post by Beefheart » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:53 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Comparing Pratley with Speed... jesus.
I compared the role he was asked to play.....Jesus.
I find it hard to see those two men in the same sentence.

I doubt Pratley covers the same sort of ground that Speed did when he was a good 8 years older (presumably the numbers exist to verify).

My memory is of a fair bit of the ball going through Speed, a very tidy passer. Indeed I remember thinking it was him that made us make that transition up to the top 8 team we were.

Pratley being asked to do that role? Nah, only if we're talking in terms as general as 'central midfielder'.
Didn't we finish 8th the season before we signed Speed? Just saying.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:57 pm

Beefheart wrote: Didn't we finish 8th the season before we signed Speed? Just saying.
Ah. Perhaps I'm thinking of the leap to 6th place and UEFA qualification.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:57 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Comparing Pratley with Speed... jesus.
I compared the role he was asked to play.....Jesus.
I find it hard to see those two men in the same sentence.

I doubt Pratley covers the same sort of ground that Speed did when he was a good 8 years older (presumably the numbers exist to verify).

My memory is of a fair bit of the ball going through Speed, a very tidy passer. Indeed I remember thinking it was him that made us make that transition up to the top 8 team we were.

Pratley being asked to do that role? Nah, only if we're talking in terms as general as 'central midfielder'.
It's a totally different level, but Pratley did a lot of chasing, and basically played that up and down role.

I don't think he's as bad as is made out.

But it was clear we needed more physical presence in midfield, and he offers a bit of that and also some athleticism in terms of covering ground.

He did a decent enough job in my view. Christ we need runners and grafters, we've got Mark Davies, Eagles and LCY to create, need grafters behind them.

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Post by Bijou Bob » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:00 pm

Just got in, log burner blazing nicely and kettle on. My thoughts;

Last season, a significant number of people on here slated Knight. Another MOTM performance for me tonight - time to give him some credit. Warnock and Mills did what was needed, when it was needed and given that Warnock was often very exposed on our left side and facing 2 red shirts, he ran Knight a close second for me.

Mark Davies ran the midfield today and finally loooked the player he should be in this league. Andrews, Chungy, Eagles were quiet but solid.

The bloke sitting next to me was on Pratley's back from the first minute. I actually think he's an intelligent player who needs someone with pace in front of him. The 2 balls he played in front of SKD were wasted whilst Kev wound his legs up and too often in the first half he was forced to go backwards as there was no movement aound him. Kev Davies isn't a starting option for me these days but should now be playing the 'Holdsworth' role - bring him on with 15 to go when we are one up and need to keep possession.

I like Bogdan and I don't want to blow his confidence but we need some competition in the nets at the mo.

Before the match I was happy with 4 points from this one and Tuesday. I'll still be happy with that, but 6 would give us a huge boost.
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:06 pm

Mar wrote:Seems all too many times we'll be on the bad end of a refereeing decision and then it'll be let go. Cardiff will probably think the same with the N'Gog penalty.
Despite the fact that it was, actually, a penalty !! :conf:
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Post by Mar » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:10 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Mar wrote:Seems all too many times we'll be on the bad end of a refereeing decision and then it'll be let go. Cardiff will probably think the same with the N'Gog penalty.
Despite the fact that it was, actually, a penalty !! :conf:
Indeed. They'll claim it wasn't enough for him to go down in the manner that he did.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:23 pm

Mar wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
Mar wrote:Seems all too many times we'll be on the bad end of a refereeing decision and then it'll be let go. Cardiff will probably think the same with the N'Gog penalty.
Despite the fact that it was, actually, a penalty !! :conf:
Indeed. They'll claim it wasn't enough for him to go down in the manner that he did.
I believe it's the subject of a question at the UN next week, by the moaning that's going on.

His foot was kicked & then his leg. Not hard, but since when was that the forward's issue ?

Their striker decided that Warnock bloking him off warranted folding like a deck chair & the N'Gog 'goal' was a good foot on-side. So Malcky MacKay can fck off.
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Post by thebish » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:44 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote: It's a totally different level, but Pratley did a lot of chasing, and basically played that up and down role.

I don't think he's as bad as is made out.
yeah - we know - you told us we wouldn't really miss Holden cos we had Pratley...

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:55 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: It's a totally different level, but Pratley did a lot of chasing, and basically played that up and down role.

I don't think he's as bad as is made out.
yeah - we know - you told us we wouldn't really miss Holden cos we had Pratley...
Factor in the 'Coyle' factor, making players look ten times shitter than they are since 1888, and we're onto something!

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:55 pm

thebish wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: It's a totally different level, but Pratley did a lot of chasing, and basically played that up and down role.

I don't think he's as bad as is made out.
yeah - we know - you told us we wouldn't really miss Holden cos we had Pratley...
Factor in the 'Coyle' constant, 'making players look ten times shitter than they are since 1888', and we're onto something!

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Post by SmokinFrazier » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:04 pm

I'm glad we've got Pratley. He's not an outstanding player but he'll always work hard and you need that in the Championship some time. He's a fit lad and won't stop running all game, so he's a useful addition to the squad. I wouldn't start him personally but I don't think it's a bad choice in this division, where you can rely on effort a bit more than in the Premier League. He was found out there but he's not a bad Championship level player at all.

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Re: Cardiff City

Post by officer_dibble » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:30 pm

Dear owen coyle
that is how to make a substitution.

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