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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:05 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:A more interesting number to me would be how many times the Thames has seriously burst its banks (or would have done without the barriers) over the last 300 years.
Well .... of you go then !!

Let us know what you find.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:12 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Are incidents of flooding on the rise?

I'd have thought the barrier is there because the capital is built on the flood plain of a large river.

In the 1980s there were four closures, 35 closures in the 1990s, and 75 closures in the first decade of this century
That seems extreme - is London now 20 more likely to flood than it was in the 80s?

A more interesting number to me would be how many times the Thames has seriously burst its banks (or would have done without the barriers) over the last 300 years.
The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:20 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote: The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
I'm sure it only came about in the 80's :?
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Post by Hoboh » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:23 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Are incidents of flooding on the rise?

I'd have thought the barrier is there because the capital is built on the flood plain of a large river.

In the 1980s there were four closures, 35 closures in the 1990s, and 75 closures in the first decade of this century
That seems extreme - is London now 20 more likely to flood than it was in the 80s?

A more interesting number to me would be how many times the Thames has seriously burst its banks (or would have done without the barriers) over the last 300 years.
The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
Begs the question then why are we not moving sensitive and economic departments out of London to higher ground? that seems to be the sensible thing to do, history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:26 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote: The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
I'm sure it only came about in the 80's :?
The Deltawerken in Holland also came about as a direct consequence of the 1953 flood and they weren't completed until 1998.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:29 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote: The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
I'm sure it only came about in the 80's :?
The Deltawerken in Holland also came about as a direct consequence of the 1953 flood and they weren't completed until 1998.
That's no excuse. They'll have been skinning-up a fat one and visiting Febo more often than is advisable.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:31 am

Hoboh wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Lord Kangana wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:Are incidents of flooding on the rise?

I'd have thought the barrier is there because the capital is built on the flood plain of a large river.

In the 1980s there were four closures, 35 closures in the 1990s, and 75 closures in the first decade of this century
That seems extreme - is London now 20 more likely to flood than it was in the 80s?

A more interesting number to me would be how many times the Thames has seriously burst its banks (or would have done without the barriers) over the last 300 years.
The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
Begs the question then why are we not moving sensitive and economic departments out of London to higher ground? that seems to be the sensible thing to do, history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.
Because the higher grounds are covered in sheep pastures and they are earmarked for housing to accomodate the waves of Bulgarians and Romanians we're expecting.
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Post by Hoboh » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:32 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote: The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
I'm sure it only came about in the 80's :?
The Deltawerken in Holland also came about as a direct consequence of the 1953 flood and they weren't completed until 1998.
That's no excuse. They'll have been skinning-up a fat one and visiting Febo more often than is advisable.
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:32 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote: The Thames Barrier was constructed as a direct consequence of the storm surge of 1953 in order to save lives and property. It was never intended to close as often as it does because sea-level rise was not anticipated in its initial planning.
I'm sure it only came about in the 80's :?
The Deltawerken in Holland also came about as a direct consequence of the 1953 flood and they weren't completed until 1998.
That's no excuse. They'll have been skinning-up a fat one and visiting Febo more often than is advisable.
:lol:

It might be that the engineers who built the Thames Barrier were Dutch in that case.
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Post by Hoboh » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:38 am

Because the higher grounds are covered in sheep pastures and they are earmarked for housing to accomodate the waves of Bulgarians and Romanians we're expecting
Don't be stupid we move them into the empty property left behind, then wait! :mrgreen:

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Post by Little Green Man » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:59 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
In the 1980s there were four closures, 35 closures in the 1990s, and 75 closures in the first decade of this century
That seems extreme - is London now 20 more likely to flood than it was in the 80s?
Of course it isn't. The closures are demanded by the global cabal of Poles, Bulgarians, Jews and do-gooders to fool the supine population into believing that global warming is an imminent threat and that we should all take to houseboats. You can't prove it of course because all freedom of information requests on the subject are denied, just like you'll never prove it's the same cabal that covertly runs the International Federation of Houseboat Builders and all its members.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:11 pm

Little Green Man wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
In the 1980s there were four closures, 35 closures in the 1990s, and 75 closures in the first decade of this century
That seems extreme - is London now 20 more likely to flood than it was in the 80s?
Of course it isn't. The closures are demanded by the global cabal of Poles, Bulgarians, Jews and do-gooders to fool the supine population into believing that global warming is an imminent threat and that we should all take to houseboats. You can't prove it of course because all freedom of information requests on the subject are denied, just like you'll never prove it's the same cabal that covertly runs the International Federation of Houseboat Builders and all its members.
I'm LinkedIn to the chairman of the International Federation of Houseboat Builders.
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Post by thebish » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:30 pm

Hoboh wrote:history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.
how can history prove that you can't do something forever?? surely history can only prove what you could or couldn't do in the past?

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:37 pm

thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.
how can history prove that you can't do something forever?? surely history can only prove what you could or couldn't do in the past?
History proves that time travel will never be invented...
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.
how can history prove that you can't do something forever?? surely history can only prove what you could or couldn't do in the past?
History proves that time travel will never be invented...
no it doesn't!

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:46 pm

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.
how can history prove that you can't do something forever?? surely history can only prove what you could or couldn't do in the past?
History proves that time travel will never be invented...
no it doesn't!
Oh yes it does!!
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
thebish wrote:
Hoboh wrote:history proves you cannot hold back the tide forever.
how can history prove that you can't do something forever?? surely history can only prove what you could or couldn't do in the past?
History proves that time travel will never be invented...
no it doesn't!
Oh yes it does!!
how so?

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:53 pm

Because if time travel had been invented they'd have been about looking in the past and we'd have known about it because, well because that's history. That and the fact that history would have told us that 60 million people were there for the only time that England won the World Cup as every time traveller and his missus turned up and tried to fit into Wembley in 1966. (but then thinking about it, that might explain the White Horse final :| )
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Because if time travel had been invented they'd have been about looking in the past and we'd have known about it because, well because that's history. That and the fact that history would have told us that 60 million people were there for the only time that England won the World Cup as every time traveller and his missus turned up and tried to fit into Wembley in 1966. (but then thinking about it, that might explain the White Horse final :| )

I suspect you're getting the general idea of "time travel" mixed up with the more specific backwards time travel. History cannot prove that forwards time travel isn't possible...

also - it is possible that we would not know about it if people traveled backwards in time - because they might be arriving in a parallel universe - and we are living in the "original" one that existed before (or after) they started dicking about with the timeline... it is possible that the Lost Leopard Spot in several parallel universes has encountered these backwards time travelers - and it's only the original timeline Lost Leopard Spot (you!) who hasn't...

Also, you will see that I have removed your welsh extra "l" from "travellers" to make the English word "travelers" ;-)

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:22 pm

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:Because if time travel had been invented they'd have been about looking in the past and we'd have known about it because, well because that's history. That and the fact that history would have told us that 60 million people were there for the only time that England won the World Cup as every time traveller and his missus turned up and tried to fit into Wembley in 1966. (but then thinking about it, that might explain the White Horse final :| )

I suspect you're getting the general idea of "time travel" mixed up with the more specific backwards time travel. History cannot prove that forwards time travel isn't possible...

also - it is possible that we would not know about it if people traveled backwards in time - because they might be arriving in a parallel universe - and we are living in the "original" one that existed before (or after) they started dicking about with the timeline... it is possible that the Lost Leopard Spot in several parallel universes has encountered these backwards time travelers - and it's only the original timeline Lost Leopard Spot (you!) who hasn't...

Also, you will see that I have removed your welsh extra "l" from "travellers" to make the English word "travelers" ;-)
My gast is flabbered. Travellers is not Welsh, travellers is, how my dictionary puts it, chiefly British. It's acceptable, it's not Americainish. Travelers is some modern fandango version that is ugly to the ear. Plus the full nuance of disdain is not possible if an angry person spits out "they're from the Traveler community", the extra l is needed to fully load the word with venom.
As for your argument viz time travel, that's just silly. If there was more than just one Lost Leopard Spot I'd know about it. And the llaws* of physics states (explicitly with no humming or ahing about it) that the conservation of summat requires that if something can go forwards it can equaly* go backwards.

* that's Welsh for you
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