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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by thebish » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:32 pm

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BWFC_Insane wrote: However, you tell us that KD is great in the air so IF Petrov is great at crossing the ball perhaps you could tell us why he doesn't get on the end of em?
Ah, you've joined the "us" gang then. At least my views, right or wrong, are my own. :wink:
so what IS your own view as to why KD never got on the end of Petrov's ace crosses??
Give it a rest Bish. You tell everybody instead. I'm sure you'll be glad to.
cos he's gash?

actually - you don't have a view - do you - of your own OR anyone else's....

if you had - you'd just be glad to offer it when asked - surely??

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by jaffka » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:33 pm

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BWFC_Insane wrote: However, you tell us that KD is great in the air so IF Petrov is great at crossing the ball perhaps you could tell us why he doesn't get on the end of em?
Ah, you've joined the "us" gang then. At least my views, right or wrong, are my own. :wink:
I think that it deserves an answer.

What is it Davies getting no where near the ace crosses or Petrov not looking up before crossing the ball and therefore being wasteful?

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:34 pm

It was Coyle's fault. He told them to be shit on purpose, my mate says so.
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Mar » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:57 pm

We bring in someone who can put the ball in the back of the net (Craig Davies) and look to ship out someone who can put the ball into a position where he can score? Not exactly seeing the logic in that.

Petrov's an enigma, can turn a game on its head or just be a luxury we can't afford to carry. He's not really improved the squad since Matty Taylor left.

Can we afford to let him go? Definitely. Can we afford not to replace him? Not a chance. We need a left winger who can provide quality and consistency, we've not had that for a while.

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:10 pm

I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:13 pm

Mar wrote:We bring in someone who can put the ball in the back of the net (Craig Davies) and look to ship out someone who can put the ball into a position where he can score? Not exactly seeing the logic in that.

Petrov's an enigma, can turn a game on its head or just be a luxury we can't afford to carry. He's not really improved the squad since Matty Taylor left.

Can we afford to let him go? Definitely. Can we afford not to replace him? Not a chance. We need a left winger who can provide quality and consistency, we've not had that for a while.
How effective has he been at that this year though? On his game he looks a threat rampaging down the wing but I cant recall him putting any great crosses in or laying on an assist this season.
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by enrdentw » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:15 pm

Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.
Really good summary of the Petrov deal.

However, I can't help notice your use of etcetera instead of etc... Interesting.

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by plymouth wanderer » Thu Jan 10, 2013 10:45 pm

Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.

He's done next to fvck all since he's been here the odd glimpse is not enough in 3 years plus he was probably one of the highest paid players we have

For us Matty Taylor is/was a far better player than Petrov

Good riddance
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:01 pm

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Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.

He's done next to fvck all since he's been here the odd glimpse is not enough in 3 years plus he was probably one of the highest paid players we have

For us Matty Taylor is/was a far better player than Petrov

Good riddance
Its in fact players like Pratley, Mears, Afobe, Ngog and Sordell who have done next to feck all.

Petrov has a game-changing quality which he has used and would use - however sparingly - until the end of the season. That sporadic quality could be the difference between a few draws and a few wins. That kind of quality could win playoff finals.

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Always hopeful » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:08 pm

Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.
I've never heard of him :conf:
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Enoch » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:16 pm

Jugs wrote:this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams.
Really?

Not the kind of player that gets us relegated from the Premiership and leaves us languishing in the bottom half of the Championship then?
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:18 pm

Petrov was responsible for our relegation?

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Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:18 pm

Always hopeful wrote:
Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.
I've never heard of him :conf:
I bet you'd never heard of Michu before the start of the season either ;)

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:19 pm

Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.
What the bollocks are you waffling
On what planet are we 'elevated' above this teams
They have teams better than us
We have (supposedly) talented individuals who have massively under-performed
Petrov epitomises this more than any other in our squad
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by TANGODANCER » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:26 pm

thebish wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
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TANGODANCER wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote: However, you tell us that KD is great in the air so IF Petrov is great at crossing the ball perhaps you could tell us why he doesn't get on the end of em?
Ah, you've joined the "us" gang then. At least my views, right or wrong, are my own. :wink:
so what IS your own view as to why KD never got on the end of Petrov's ace crosses??
Give it a rest Bish. You tell everybody instead. I'm sure you'll be glad to.
cos he's gash?

actually - you don't have a view - do you - of your own OR anyone else's....if you had - you'd just be glad to offer it when asked - surely??
Who are you now Bish, the grand forum inquisitor? You're as predictable as the weather. Why would I have someone else's view? My own view is simple and unchanged. It's also not a very recent one as Tower Radio isn't the best view to base opinions on, so hardly that relevant anyway. I am, I understand, allowed to express it on a forum though...I think..? The topic was also regarding Petrov if I recall until BWFCi changed the goalposts. Where exactly in the thread did I claim anything of the sort? Unless a lot's changed KD has three defenders around him wherever he goes so at least he keeps them busy. How many free kicks are given against him just for going for the ball? He also isn't a one man army and there are other who could get in the box for crosses. You claim K.D is gash yet how many times have you watched a match recently/this season? Commentators and the media seem to rate him far better than our own fans, but if he's gash, as you claim, then what do they know? Maybe your radio is better quality than mine?
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Enoch » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:26 pm

That's kinda what I was trying to say CAPSLOCK. :wink2:

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:33 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Jugs wrote:I think the big question is who we can replace him with.

We replaced Klasnic with Afobe, for example.

He has undoubted quality that can be the difference in a game in this division; this is the kind of player that clubs like Millwall, Watford etcetera do not have. It's the kind of player that elevates us above these teams. Players like Afobe don't do this. The more quality we lose, and the more inferiority we replace it with, the less chance we'll have of retaining our PL status, either this year or next. Petrov is the kind of player who can come off the bench and galvanize the team.

Hopefully Freedman will buy shrewdly.
What the bollocks are you waffling
On what planet are we 'elevated' above this teams
They have teams better than us
We have (supposedly) talented individuals who have massively under-performed
Petrov epitomises this more than any other in our squad
Charlton should have beaten us before Ngog came on and won the game - the kind of player that elevates us above those teams.

If Petrov is used sparingly as a sub for the rest of the year we might get a few points out of him. Otherwise we can keep bringing Afobe and his ilk on.

I'd rather see shite like Afobe out of the club, who literally has done nothing since arriving, than someone like Petrov who, admittedly sparingly, can produce something that can win games.

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:44 pm

Tell ya what, let's get shut of Petrov and Afcukingfobe
Ticks an extra box
Just stop with the 'having Petrov is what makes us better' than teams half a league above us
This league demands effort and organisation
Not something at the top of Petrovs CV
And, he's expensive
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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Jugs » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:47 pm

I'm in agreement with what the league demands - but sometimes a game needs that extra spark and quality to win a 0-0. We don't have to start him but I'd rather keep him till the end of the year, even if he is on a fair bit of money.

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Re: Petrov to Espanyol

Post by Lord Kangana » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:52 pm

Its simple really. If we don't get significantly worse, or even manage to improve after this then its a decent decision. If we don't, then we'll have an answer.
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