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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Prufrock » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:39 am

bobo the clown wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:To those who don't 'get' finances in this league and say our 'runofthemillers' like Knight and Ricketts aren't on big money, Barnsleys wage bill last season was 6.2 million

About 4k a week
... or about £120k pw in the World of Mathematics. If they have 25 men in the squad that'd average out at around £4,750 pw, pm.
So he's £750 per week out? Massive.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:41 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote::conf:

Apples and Oranges springs to mind.
How so

Who should we compare ourselves with when judging whether we may be paying very well in relation to the competition?
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:45 am

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bobo the clown wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:To those who don't 'get' finances in this league and say our 'runofthemillers' like Knight and Ricketts aren't on big money, Barnsleys wage bill last season was 6.2 million

About 4k a week
... or about £120k pw in the World of Mathematics. If they have 25 men in the squad that'd average out at around £4,750 pw, pm.
So he's £750 per week out? Massive.
I took it, on first reading, as that £6.2m = £4,000pw for the squad.

Otherwise, cool. Almost 19% out is neither here nor there.

You have a career mapped out in the public sector I guess.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:47 am

CAPSLOCK wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote::conf:

Apples and Oranges springs to mind.
How so

Who should we compare ourselves with when judging whether we may be paying very well in relation to the competition?
You misunderstand my confusion, I've tried to work 6.2m into 4k and it won't go - I'm struggling to keep up with the 4k per week for Barnsley (Apples) and the 20m for Reading (Oranges), if yer get me drift.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:53 am

Bobo, the figures came to my attention cos I read somewhere (else) that their top paid player was on 4k a week

That could actually still be true despite these other figures suggesting the wages are higher than that

Agents fees, signing on fees, bonuses, pay offs, managers etc etc etc probably all go into staff costs

Regardless, its way, way below the levels we are at
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:59 am

gemchris1977 wrote:I don't think Sam Ricketts and Zat Knight will be on huge wages simply because they re-signed after we went down so I would assume that their wages packets would reflect the fact that we are a championship club it's more people like CYL N'Gog who would be the problem.
The saleable ones? :conf:

Ricketts and Zat Knight will be earning north of a million a year, I reckon.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by ChrisC » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:02 pm

Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Armchair Wanderer » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:03 pm

boltonboris wrote:
gemchris1977 wrote:I don't think Sam Ricketts and Zat Knight will be on huge wages simply because they re-signed after we went down so I would assume that their wages packets would reflect the fact that we are a championship club it's more people like CYL N'Gog who would be the problem.
The saleable ones? :conf:

Ricketts and Zat Knight will be earning north of a million a year, I reckon.
So, £20k pw compared to Barnsely's top player who's apparently on £4k pw.

LCY/NGog might be nearer £30/40!?

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by bobo the clown » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:05 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:Bobo, the figures came to my attention cos I read somewhere (else) that their top paid player was on 4k a week

That could actually still be true despite these other figures suggesting the wages are higher than that

Agents fees, signing on fees, bonuses, pay offs, managers etc etc etc probably all go into staff costs

Regardless, its way, way below the levels we are at
It's fine ... I misread your post's intent.

Yes, way lower, though if Readings is £20m, then, at a rough estimate, it's around 3x those figures & probably no co-incidence they won the league. It's the 'Waitrose' factor.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:07 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:Bobo, the figures came to my attention cos I read somewhere (else) that their top paid player was on 4k a week

That could actually still be true despite these other figures suggesting the wages are higher than that

Agents fees, signing on fees, bonuses, pay offs, managers etc etc etc probably all go into staff costs

Regardless, its way, way below the levels we are at
It's fine ... I misread your post's intent.

Yes, way lower, though if Readings is £20m, then, at a rough estimate, it's around 3x those figures & probably no co-incidence they won the league. It's the 'Waitrose' factor.
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:07 pm

I doubt Lee, or N'gog will be on that much more. Probably on a par, I'd say.. But at least we could get money for those.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:13 pm

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Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Ah, so it's a Nixon rumour? Hmm...
being in the football press, have you ever contributed any transfer rumours?
Yeah, we planted one a couple of windows back as a test; it was repeated on SSN and the player involved (an unknowing friend of ours) quickly denied it. Such things are easily done, usually to stoke interest, but generally we aim for accuracy.
I mentioned Nixon as although far from 100% accurate, he's closer than many - and certainly Boris's original "heard it on Twitter so it must be true". I still think it would be weird, and indicative of some severe belt-tightening: it's not like Dougie doesn't rate the players in question.
throwawayboltonian wrote:Isn't that how The Sun sports works? Fling enough shit and some'll stick?
They're not the worst for it: see the Football Transfer League stats.
Jez wrote:If there is any truth to the idea we might axe Knight and Ricketts I guess its worth keeping in mind that we can do that at any point, it doesn't have to be within the transfer window.
But if we release them after the window, they can't join another club until the next window. So we'd be asking them to take a 50% pay cut for no reason.
CAPSLOCK wrote:To those who don't 'get' finances in this league and say our 'runofthemillers' like Knight and Ricketts aren't on big money, Barnsleys wage bill last season was 6.2 million - about 4k a week
But Barnsley are very much the poor relations, CAPS. I'd be intrigued to know how we measure up against the likes of Leicester and Cardiff ("terribly in the league" - A Wag).

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:18 pm

ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:20 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)
What the blitherin crin's is the Freedman bleep test?
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by ChrisC » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:21 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)
Indeed it has but seems to be appearing more in the last few days.. probably old news somebody dug up with a digital spade 8)

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by boltonboris » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:22 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)
Aye.. He looks a bit erm.. Large...
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:30 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)
What the blitherin crin's is the Freedman bleep test?
it's some kind of running up and down between cones - a speed test jobbie.... (not invented by freedman)

however - it can't be that hard to pass..

Cravies was judged not up to speed - but K Davies (apparently) is up to speed... :wink:

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:33 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)
Aye.. He looks a bit erm.. Large...

if this is true - he's first name on the team sheet! sign him up!!
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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:36 pm

thebish wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
ChrisC wrote:Rumours again that we are in for Guidetti at City. Can't see it myself unless N'gog is on his way back to France.
Been around for a while, that rumour. Boy sure knows where the net is. But can he pass the Freedman bleep test? :)
What the blitherin crin's is the Freedman bleep test?
it's some kind of running up and down between cones - a speed test jobbie.... (not invented by freedman)

however - it can't be that hard to pass..

Cravies was judged not up to speed - but K Davies (apparently) is up to speed... :wink:
Kevin Davies just stands there and looks at everyone menacingly and is then told he doesn't have to take the test!

In all seriousness I think Dougie has a fitness test for new players and a bit like Allardyce a set of tests players have to pass before they can get in the side.

I wouldn't mind though, testing Kevin Davies to see if he knows where the front post is, and how to get there.......

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Re: Worthy's better class of transfer thread

Post by thebish » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:38 pm

Guidetti scored 20 goals in 23 games during his loan spell in Rotterdam last term....
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