The Politics Thread

[Montreal Wanderer]

Is that hoboh next to him?

[Prufrock]

I'm pretty sure there is a lot of harm that can occur from a father-son sexual relationship...

care to explain what harm that is?

Do you disagree? Do you think no harm can occur?

I think it's fairly obvious that there's potentially a massive imbalance in power in that relationship, and one that quite easily lead to a lot of psychological harm.

[Harry Genshaw]

I'm pretty sure there is a lot of harm that can occur from a father-son sexual relationship...

care to explain what harm that is?

Do you disagree? Do you think no harm can occur?

I think it's fairly obvious that there's potentially a massive imbalance in power in that relationship, and one that quite easily lead to a lot of psychological harm.

I assumed the Bish was being picky (not like him, I know )

I would think anyone working in his field must have seen the pyschological damage done to men who were in a sexual 'relationship' with their fathers.

[thebish]

I'm pretty sure there is a lot of harm that can occur from a father-son sexual relationship...

care to explain what harm that is?

Do you disagree? Do you think no harm can occur?

I think it's fairly obvious that there's potentially a massive imbalance in power in that relationship, and one that quite easily lead to a lot of psychological harm.

I was asking the question purely under the premise under which it was introduced - namely that the reason for not allowing close relatives to marry in heterosexual couples was because of the genetic implications in offspring.

[Hoboh]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

[thebish]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

what, I think, is difficult for many people to understand in this position is what difference it makes to anyone else at all if a same-sex couple get married..

I'm married - another couple getting married somewhere in the UK doesn't make any difference at all to my life - does it?

can you explain further?

[Montreal Wanderer]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

Yet these rights they wish for themselves are already enjoyed by all the others - they only want the same rights. I'm not sure why. I've been married twice and.... well, never mind.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

Yet these rights they wish for themselves are already enjoyed by all the others - they only want the same rights. I'm not sure why. I've been married twice and.... well, never mind.

Maybe you just never found the right man Monty...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

North Korea carries out its third, most powerful nuclear test despite UN warnings, and says "even stronger" action may follow

What! what can be "even stronger" than a test? I shudder to think.

[Hoboh]

North Korea carries out its third, most powerful nuclear test despite UN warnings, and says "even stronger" action may follow

What! what can be "even stronger" than a test? I shudder to think.

Little fatboy and his ancient generals should learn to tread carefully, it is not in the interest of China to allow them to do anything other than posture.

[Hoboh]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

Yet these rights they wish for themselves are already enjoyed by all the others - they only want the same rights. I'm not sure why. I've been married twice and.... well, never mind.

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

[thebish]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

Yet these rights they wish for themselves are already enjoyed by all the others - they only want the same rights. I'm not sure why. I've been married twice and.... well, never mind.

God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.

that's lame - even for you, Hoboh!!

are you gonna have a go at my question above? it was a genuine one...

[Hoboh]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

what, I think, is difficult for many people to understand in this position is what difference it makes to anyone else at all if a same-sex couple get married..

I'm married - another couple getting married somewhere in the UK doesn't make any difference at all to my life - does it?

can you explain further?

On a practical level, it may be that in future years a surviving Gay may have more rights than you or I by confusing the the gender role, your right it makes no difference to your life at present except its yet another chip out of the normal years old tried and tested path of life.

[thebish]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

what, I think, is difficult for many people to understand in this position is what difference it makes to anyone else at all if a same-sex couple get married..

I'm married - another couple getting married somewhere in the UK doesn't make any difference at all to my life - does it?

can you explain further?

On a practical level, it may be that in future years a surviving Gay may have more rights than you or I by confusing the the gender role, your right it makes no difference to your life at present except its yet another chip out of the normal years old tried and tested path of life.

so you agree it makes no difference... what is your problem them - specifically?

and what are these future problems that you vaguely hint at - how might you or I be adversely affected in the future??

and - if you are advocating some kind of Old Testament biblical model for relationships - then you'd be advocating polygamy, and the handing down of wives to brothers if the first husband dies and the woman is childless?

[Bruce Rioja]

and - if you are advocating some kind of Old Testament biblical model for relationships - then you'd be advocating polygamy, and the handing down of wives to brothers if the first husband dies and the woman is childless?

Really? Then I thank the Lord that my elder brother has two sons.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

what, I think, is difficult for many people to understand in this position is what difference it makes to anyone else at all if a same-sex couple get married..

I'm married - another couple getting married somewhere in the UK doesn't make any difference at all to my life - does it?

can you explain further?

On a practical level, it may be that in future years a surviving Gay may have more rights than you or I by confusing the the gender role, your right it makes no difference to your life at present except its yet another chip out of the normal years old tried and tested path of life.

so you agree it makes no difference... what is your problem them - specifically?

and what are these future problems that you vaguely hint at - how might you or I be adversely affected in the future??

and - if you are advocating some kind of Old Testament biblical model for relationships - then you'd be advocating polygamy, and the handing down of wives to brothers if the first husband dies and the woman is childless?

I'm in.

[Hoboh]

Is that hoboh next to him?

I am NOT anti gay these people exist and have a basic right to live in peace witout fear. What I do object to most strongly is minority groups attacking the established order of life trying to claim every right for themselves without any care for the thoughts and feelings of others (usually the majority) in prsuit of their goal.

what, I think, is difficult for many people to understand in this position is what difference it makes to anyone else at all if a same-sex couple get married..

I'm married - another couple getting married somewhere in the UK doesn't make any difference at all to my life - does it?

can you explain further?

On a practical level, it may be that in future years a surviving Gay may have more rights than you or I by confusing the the gender role, your right it makes no difference to your life at present except its yet another chip out of the normal years old tried and tested path of life.

so you agree it makes no difference... what is your problem them - specifically?

and what are these future problems that you vaguely hint at - how might you or I be adversely affected in the future??

and - if you are advocating some kind of Old Testament biblical model for relationships - then you'd be advocating polygamy, and the handing down of wives to brothers if the first husband dies and the woman is childless?

Look no offence bish but the scrawling of some ancient book that for all we know could be the 'owd equivalent of the Sun or daily star are not what we are talking about here. We are talking that for centuries structures and things have been put into place to protect, advance and nurture society, now small groups who really have no need to want everything for themselves as well. These things are in place for the vast majority not a feckin’ loud minority supported by a few wishy washy it makes me look good because I really don’t have an opinion on anything liberal types! Wait till extreme minorities want things their way and start quoting it was good enough for gays…. FFS why do Gays feel the need to marry in church when what they practise is totally against what these institutions believe in? I’m thinking of pressing for a licence to sell liquor in the local Methodist hall.

[thebish]

Look no offence bish but the scrawling of some ancient book that for all we know could be the 'owd equivalent of the Sun or daily star are not what we are talking about here.

except, Hobes... it was YOU who appealed to the Hebrew Scriptures to support your argument... no?

[Hoboh]

Look no offence bish but the scrawling of some ancient book that for all we know could be the 'owd equivalent of the Sun or daily star are not what we are talking about here.

except, Hobes... it was YOU who appealed to the Hebrew Scriptures to support your argument... no?

Eh? If you are refering to the Adam & Steve thing that was tongue stuck well and truly in my own cheek!

[BWFC_Insane]

Hoboh, what about gay Christians?

No church is being forced to marry anyone. They get to choose.

So I don't see any issue at all.